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Thoughts on communism?

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  • KatyPrismSpirit
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    lol ot: good on paper, horrible in reality

  • DaphneGuinness
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  • there's not a single one exemple of success of communism, it always fall under totalitarian control, economic down, repression, etc.

2 minutes ago, liam13 said:

there is no war in communist countries -x

lol

ot: good on paper, horrible in reality

Communism ran by socially conservative leaders in most countries, image how gagged capitalist countries would've been if a woman leader ran left wing economy as well as making socially progressive moves back in the 20th century

I don't idealize it, but I recognize that it played a huge counterpart of capitalism, and it had huge influence into capitalists doing anything they could to convince of the benefits of their ideology. Once the URSS fell, the capitalism mask fell down too, they didn't have to pretend anymore, so the working class has had it worse year after year while the capitalists keep on accomumulating billions. It's no wonder that many remember the 80s as the last time that life was somewhat worth living

By definition, communism requires no money, classes, or private property, which isn't possible in the world we currently live in. Anybody with a negative view of a political system that doesn't exist in practice yet, based on the forced failure of countries that weren't actually communist, is a moron.

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37 minutes ago, KatyPrismSpirit said:

lol

ot: good on paper, horrible in reality

Capitalism - bad on paper, even worse in reality.

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there's not a single one exemple of success of communism, it always fall under totalitarian control, economic down, repression, etc.

When you're politically illiterate you post images of war, poverty and death as if that's not happening in capitalism, or believe the shoehorse theory is true.

sabrina

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13 minutes ago, BornUnbroken said:

Capitalism - bad on paper, even worse in reality.

true.

both can be awful ideologies simultaneously

Its garbage. And it will never work.

And yes, capilasm in its full form is also garbage, as we are seeing rn. 2 things can be true at once.

Edited by Fluch

It's what the world should strive towards.

What every economic model somehow always leaves out is the human's capacity for greed, cruelty and evil. These are inherant conditions of the human psyche that simply cannot be overwhelmed by universal equality, economic prosperity and dignified living conditions. Unlike other people that are seated on the left-wing political sphere, I don't really believe in the good of all people. Some people here on earth voluntarily subscribe to being evil, because seeing people and the general populace of humans suffer brings them joy, and these people tend to strive towards positions of power and kind of always do end up in positions of power. My personal question has always been: How can you set up a system that is for the people and wants nothing but the best for the people, without being corrupted and abused by the people?

Even the fairest system can be corrupted by one single person working against it. I think this why communism as a whole tends be volatile. Economically, it is structurally way more reasonable and sound than capitalism. (Endless economic growth on a planet with finite resources is a stupid concept anyway). But since communism is ideologically rooted in an idea of equality of all humans and giving everybody dignified living conditions, it is extremly fragile as a social concept. Because every single perceived inequality and actual failure of the system is an abject moral failure and proof "that it doesn't and will never work". Hence why we see members here posting starving babies saying "This is what communism is."

Capitalism is ideologically rooted in accepting inequality, exploitation and powerlessness. It does not have the ideological claim of "everybody deserves to live in dignity", it fundamentally tells us "Some of you are poor and you deserve it, shut up and go work. If you're complaining, you probably didn't work hard enough you lazy bum". We got starving babies en masse where capitalism rules as well, yet somehow no one really cares about starving babies if they're living under the thumb of the USA and its satellite states. This system basically tells us "It's ok that those kids are starving, their parents didn't work hard enough and they probably shouldn't have had kids either way! It's their own damn fault!". In that kind of way, it is incredibly honest, comfortable and hence socially stable and accepted (despite the world economy crashing every 4 years because of it).

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Social capitalism (eg. Scandinavia) is the best working system that has ever been implemented.

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