24 minutes ago, Calvin said:

So NOW the girls wake up and decide this is the best album of all time?

Oh to be a day-one Poet truther.

Fresh Out The Slammer over 200K daily streams! Finally. Let's go for 225K next.

i know it's crazy to say and i thought showgirl era would give this but i just want one last era with a full push before she transitions into her chill era.

multiple pop singles, superbowl, glastonbury, coachella, insane media presence. i need ts13 to be 2023 all over again on a smaller scale as far as media coverage goes…like she needs to go the whole 9 yards.

after the elizabeth taylor music video fiasco though, i doubt it

10 hours ago, Kyle-x said:

Found a way to deeply relate to Eldest Daughter oh this smash

Were you recently on fire?

Should've done Coachella for Midnights when she was beloved.

the problem with ttpd is just its bloated

they also complain about the lyrics but i suppose atrl prefers easily digestible lyrics like abra ooh na na

4 hours ago, hungrymuffin said:

the problem with ttpd is just its bloated

they also complain about the lyrics but i suppose atrl prefers easily digestible lyrics like abra ooh na na

The bloated argument also disappears if you treat it as two albums, reactions to folkmore vs reactions to TTPD have me convinced that TTPD would be beloved if it had been disc 1 released by itself, and then a FORTNIGHT later, the anthology was released.

1 hour ago, Flames2Embers said:

The bloated argument also disappears if you treat it as two albums, reactions to folkmore vs reactions to TTPD have me convinced that TTPD would be beloved if it had been disc 1 released by itself, and then a FORTNIGHT later, the anthology was released.

This is how I started to treat it. Although in the past, I really did thoroughly enjoy listening to the entire thing from front to back, recently I have the standard version saved and I also have The Anthology saved but I removed/hid all the standard songs and I listen to one or the other.

Seeing the Coachella effect on Bieber's discography is really frustrating. It's the ultimate proof that Taylor's eras could be way bigger if she actually cared about them. The way she limitates her own potential by just not caring is such a shame. People say she is obsessed about charts (which is not necessarily wrong) when she always does the bare minimum beyond the first week of release. I know we're never going back to the 1989 type of promo and that we are already lucky enough to have so many music from her but I really miss that hunger artists show when they are debuting/breaking through. She could skip all of those useless radio interviews and focus on 2 or 3 live shows that bring viewers and/or engagement on social media, it would be great already.

It's April 2026 and we still haven't heard Ophelia live ONCE.

Edited April 22Apr 22 by Squall

8 hours ago, Flames2Embers said:

The bloated argument also disappears if you treat it as two albums, reactions to folkmore vs reactions to TTPD have me convinced that TTPD would be beloved if it had been disc 1 released by itself, and then a FORTNIGHT later, the anthology was released.

She really really wanted that streaming record… and whilst she got it - it came at the expense of a much better rollout plan.

What you proposed here would have been perfect.

One of my colleagues who's not a Taylor fan told me how obsessed she is with Guilty As Sin?.

It's starting.

GAS? truthers rise, the day has come, her Cruel Summer moment is upon us.

I really don't care about ET randomly returning to the top 10 for a single week. The song will never be a classic in her discography and it's already locked for a year-end placement. I sorta wish she did a different exclusive Ophelia vinyl instead. The song could've literally returned to number 1 and helped fight for its ultimate year-end position with a huge points boost.

On 4/20/2026 at 9:15 AM, jgamgr said:

Shouldn't Liz Taylor be at least top15 with the vinyls?

These predictions don't have access to that data, they didn't predict Fortnight re-charting from the RSD vinyl last year either.

She is so iconic for this. Occupied top 12 with 0 sales

So I just completed my rough revisit of ranking her discography and organizing my preference of all of her tracks.. I've come to realize, outside of a handful of tracks - especially from Red and a handful of tracks on rep, I vastly prefer the latter half of her discography. Revisiting anything prior is mostly a nostalgic throwback to when those were the current releases.

every new single by these pop stars flopping is just paving the way for ophelia's grammy sweep

Been away for a while. To "celebrate" coming back, I did the song sorter (which took eons).

Rank	Song
1	Sad Beautiful Tragic
2	Safe & Sound
3	ivy
4	All Too Well
5	Would've, Could've, Should've
6	State of Grace
7	Fresh out The Slammer
8	Enchanted
9	willow
10	All Too Well (10 minute version)
11	Haunted
12	hoax
13	False God
14	Foolish One
15	Treacherous
16	Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus
17	I Hate It Here
18	tolerate it
19	The Prophecy
20	Should've Said No

Fun facts:

• With 5 (!!) songs, Red is the album with the most songs in the top 20, followed by TTPD with 4

• Fearless, 1989, Reputation and Showgirl are the only albums out of the top 20

• Highest song on Fearless is #32, highest on 1989 is #31, highest on Reputation is #37 and highest on Showgirl is... #120 (maybe it needs time to grow because that's kinda wild tbh, we'll see in like a year how I feel)

• The very last song is A Perfectly Good Heart

• Should've Said No, Fearless, Enchanted, Sad Beautiful Tragic, Wildest Dreams, So It Goes, False God, hoax, ivy, Would've Could've Should've, Fresh Out The Slammer and Elizabeth Taylor are my favorites from each album

• A Perfectly Good Heart, Superstar, Innocent, Stay Stay Stay, Suburban Legends, This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Things, ME!, betty, it's time to go, Snow On The Beach, Robin and Actually Romantic are my least favorites from each album

• Betty is the highest ranked of my least favorite tracks, making folklore the only album with all its tracks in the top 200 (top 165 actually)

• (For those who know my dislike for these songs, there are still 29 songs below Innocent and 34 below Untouchable)

And because no ranking is complete without the album ranking too

1. evermore

2. Speak Now

3. TTPD

4. Red

5. folklore

6. Fearless

7. Midnights

8. 1989

9. Reputation

10. Debut

11. Lover

12. Showgirl

when it's revealed that Lizzie sold 300K copies plus the remix she's releasing tomorrow... then what

^lol

I would absolutely die at the chaos it would cause on this site

4 hours ago, Incandescent Glow said:

Been away for a while. To "celebrate" coming back, I did the song sorter (which took eons).

Fun facts:

• With 5 (!!) songs, Red is the album with the most songs in the top 20, followed by TTPD with 4

• Fearless, 1989, Reputation and Showgirl are the only albums out of the top 20

• Highest song on Fearless is #32, highest on 1989 is #31, highest on Reputation is #37 and highest on Showgirl is... #120 (maybe it needs time to grow because that's kinda wild tbh, we'll see in like a year how I feel)

• The very last song is A Perfectly Good Heart

• Should've Said No, Fearless, Enchanted, Sad Beautiful Tragic, Wildest Dreams, So It Goes, False God, hoax, ivy, Would've Could've Should've, Fresh Out The Slammer and Elizabeth Taylor are my favorites from each album

• A Perfectly Good Heart, Superstar, Innocent, Stay Stay Stay, Suburban Legends, This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Things, ME!, betty, it's time to go, Snow On The Beach, Robin and Actually Romantic are my least favorites from each album

• Betty is the highest ranked of my least favorite tracks, making folklore the only album with all its tracks in the top 200 (top 165 actually)

• (For those who know my dislike for these songs, there are still 29 songs below Innocent and 34 below Untouchable)

And because no ranking is complete without the album ranking too

1. evermore

2. Speak Now

3. TTPD

4. Red

5. folklore

6. Fearless

7. Midnights

8. 1989

9. Reputation

10. Debut

11. Lover

12. Showgirl

Sis, I truly enjoyed looking at this. Also excellent taste. I'm in the middle of doing it and will likely copy your fun fact format.

With that said...

Sophie's Choice has NOTHING on this.

4 hours ago, Incandescent Glow said:

Been away for a while. To "celebrate" coming back, I did the song sorter (which took eons).

Fun facts:

• With 5 (!!) songs, Red is the album with the most songs in the top 20, followed by TTPD with 4

• Fearless, 1989, Reputation and Showgirl are the only albums out of the top 20

• Highest song on Fearless is #32, highest on 1989 is #31, highest on Reputation is #37 and highest on Showgirl is... #120 (maybe it needs time to grow because that's kinda wild tbh, we'll see in like a year how I feel)

• The very last song is A Perfectly Good Heart

• Should've Said No, Fearless, Enchanted, Sad Beautiful Tragic, Wildest Dreams, So It Goes, False God, hoax, ivy, Would've Could've Should've, Fresh Out The Slammer and Elizabeth Taylor are my favorites from each album

• A Perfectly Good Heart, Superstar, Innocent, Stay Stay Stay, Suburban Legends, This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Things, ME!, betty, it's time to go, Snow On The Beach, Robin and Actually Romantic are my least favorites from each album

• Betty is the highest ranked of my least favorite tracks, making folklore the only album with all its tracks in the top 200 (top 165 actually)

• (For those who know my dislike for these songs, there are still 29 songs below Innocent and 34 below Untouchable)

And because no ranking is complete without the album ranking too

1. evermore

2. Speak Now

3. TTPD

4. Red

5. folklore

6. Fearless

7. Midnights

8. 1989

9. Reputation

10. Debut

11. Lover

12. Showgirl

Love!

This is mine from my truncated top 80 tracks playlist that I was working on sporadically through the day after I kept re-arranging things.

I didn't know Sad Beautiful Tragic had this much love… I've always been lukewarm on that one.

my top 20 Tay songs:

debut: (0)

Fearless: Fearless (1)

Speak Now: Speak Now, Enchanted (2)

Red: State of Grace, Holy Ground, Better Man, Safe and Sound (4)

1989: Clean (1)

Reputation: Look What you Made me Do (1)

Lover: Death by a Thousand Cuts (1)

folklore: seven (1)

evermore: cowboy like me, ivy, right where you left me, renegade (4)

Midnights: you're on your own kid, would've could've should've (2)

TTPD: I Hate It Here, COSOSOM, The Prophecy, Guilty as Sin, Fresh Out the Slammer, But Daddy I Love Him (6)

The Slop of a Showgirl: (0)

TTPD, evermore, and Red having her most classics.. no one was surprised! (also this is 23 shhhh it was still impossible to get it down to just this)

Top 25:

1) cardigan
2) right where you left me
3) All Too Well (Original 5 Minute Version)
4) Treacherous (Taylor's Version)
5) Red (Taylor's Version)
6) cowboy like me
7) Enchanted (Original)
8) State of Grace (Original)
9) Sparks Fly (Original)
10) Would've, Could've, Should've
11) Clean (Original)
12) Wildest Dreams (Original)
13) Style (Original)
14) seven
15) august
16) ivy
17) The Great War
18) The Prophecy
19) Back to December (Original)
20) Call It What You Want
21) Blank Space
22) hoax
23) mirrorball
24) Begin Again (Original)
25) Long Live (Original)

Taylor Swift - 0
Fearless - 0
Speak Now - 4
Red - 5
1989 - 4
reputation - 1
Lover - 0
folklore - 5
evermore - 3
Midnights - 2
TTPD - 1
The Life of a Showgirl - 0

not a day goes by when i don't have ophelia's melody playing in my head. this generational smash