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Does Taylor have an inorganic problem?

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Hello ATRL,

On closer inspection, it seems The Alleged Music Industry Taylor Swift isn't a serial GP hitmaker but rather a BTS-adjacent fanbase-driven artist who has a genuine hit every 3–6 years. Have a look below at her many flops in the past decade, which have been punctuated by Anti-Hero (a hit at the time though not one recurrently), Cruel Summer, and The Fate of Ophelia, and let me know your thoughts.

Out of the Woods 18–77–46–55–50–44–49–51–53–77–OUT

New Romantics 71–73–69–62–61–62–46–78–OUT

Look What You Made Me Do 77–1–1–1–3–3–5–4–10–25–34–37–31–44–60–72–70–76–66–55–OUT (lead single, 20 weeks on chart, 7 weeks in top 10)

Ready For It 4–21 (redface) –34–39–47–53–52–46–19–30–18–24–31–43–37–59–61–58–80–96–OUT (second single, 20 weeks on chart, 1 week in top 10)

End Game 86–83–39–49–42–40–39–36–18–30–43–45–65–91–OUT

New Year's Day OUT

Delicate 84–66–52–46–54–51–52–56–46–36–34–28–37–25–27–20–23–15–12–12–13–17–16–19–25–29–25–27–29–37–33–34–38–43–49–OUT

Getaway Car OUT

Babe OUT

Me! 100–2–3–8–9–11–11–14–15–31–39–52–55–58–61–66–63–58–11–54–OUT (lead single, 20 weeks on chart, 4 weeks in top 10)

You Need to Calm Down 2–13–13–16–15–15–16–18–18–14–4–12–24–21–23–27–28–33–37–52–46–OUT (second single, 21 weeks on chart, 2 weeks in top 10)

Lover 19–10–23–49–49–44–45–34–37–38–48–43–26–15–19–32–40–48–57–34–36–50–OUT (22 weeks on chart, 1 week in top 10)

Christmas Tree Farm 59–OUT

The Man 23–61–96–92–85–90–88–88–OUT

Cardigan 1–8–24–33–36–45–52–52–49–53–77–85–88–96–OUT (lead single, 14 weeks on chart, 2 weeks in top 10)

Exile 6–36–61–82–98–OUT (second single, 5 weeks on chart, 1 week in top 10)

Betty 42–91–OUT

Willow 1–38 (rip)–23–22–29–28–28–29–29–25–29–32–42–39–50–59–60–62–60–61–OUT (lead single, 20 weeks on chart, 1 week in top 10)

No Body, No Crime 34–97–OUT (second single, 2 weeks on chart)

Coney Island 63–OUT

I Bet You Think About Me 22–70–OUT

Message in a Bottle 45–74–78–82–89–93–80–63–88–73–57–61–68–OUT

Renegade 73–OUT

The Joker and the Queen 21–64–75–OUT

Babe (Taylor's Version) 69–OUT

Snow on the Beach 4–16–40–49–69–83–30–87–OUT

****! 3–31–49–76–98–OUT

Is It Over Now? 1–3–5–9–21–30–36–40–49–13–13–17–17–21–18–18–18–18–16–27–31–47–OUT have you ever heard this #1 song?

The Alcott OUT

Fortnight 1–1–4–8–10–11–12–13–13–17–15–16–17–25–28–38–49–55–60–61–33–OUT (lead single, 21 weeks on chart, 5 weeks in top 10)

I Can Do It with a Broken Heart 3–9–15–14–26–30–34–44–45–50–57–65–43–31–37–35–33–36–39–32–33–26–34–27–34–37–37–54–43–41–49–OUT (second single, 31 weeks on chart, 2 weeks in top 10)

Opalite 2–2–4–4–4–5–5–10–25–31–37–54–8– single release 9–10–10–10–11–8–1–4–6–10–7–12–13–15–17–17–25–19–18–OUT (second single, 32 weeks on chart, 19 weeks in top 10) [thank you physicals, variants and remixes]

Elizabeth Taylor 3–5–5–8–13–17–28–53–68–77–85–93–59–62–78–75–79–99–OUT single release 74–59–65–35–45–51–21–64–59–50–81–OUT (29 weeks on chart, 4 weeks in top 10)

I Knew It, I Knew You 1–1–2–2–2–2–2–3–5–2–3 (thank you Jeff Bezos, Pandora and Deezer)

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1 minute ago, MonsterFandom said:

You really need to get a job

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finishing my master's this week and have a grad job place for september. What now MonsterFandom?

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So its her fault that a big portion of the public became her fans?

Yes and she's been officially over since this year after years of my work behind the scenes finally paying off clap3

You don't have to waste your time compiling those weekly positions on a saturday deadbanana2

12 minutes ago, gelato said:

Babe OUT

Renegade 73–OUT

The Joker and the Queen 21–64–75–OUT

****! 3–31–49–76–98–OUT

The Alcott OUT

Are these standalone singles or what on earth are these rip

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8 minutes ago, gelato said:

finishing my master's this week and have a grad job place for september. What now MonsterFandom?

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How do you have time to do this bullshit when you are finishing your master's? Something is fishy here user gelato

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6 minutes ago, gelato said:

finishing my master's this week and have a grad job place for september. What now MonsterFandom?

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you should've used the hour you spent flipping between acharts and notepad tracking 30+ chart runs on your masters tbh

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10 minutes ago, gelato said:

Out of the Woods - New Romantics: 6th and 7th singles

Look What You Made Me Do: 1.4B streams

Ready For It: 1B streams

End Game: flop

New Year's Day: not even a single

Delicate: 1.3B streams, close to 1.4B streams

Getaway Car - Babe: not even singles

Me!: close to 1B streams

You Need to Calm Down: 1.1B streams

Lover: 2.1B streams

Christmas Tree Farm: flop

The Man: 1B streams

Cardigan: 2B streams

Exile: not a single, 1B streams

Betty: not a single, nearly 500M streams

Willow: 1.1B streams

No Body, No Crime: not a single

Coney Island: not a single

I Bet You Think About Me: flop

Message in a Bottle: not a single

Renegade: not a single

The Joker and the Queen: flop

Babe (Taylor's Version): not a single

Snow on the Beach: not a single

****!: aborted single because of IION

Is It Over Now?: became a single on its own, terrible recurrents though

The Alcott: not a single

Fortnight: 1.2B streams

I Can Do It with a Broken Heart: underperformance, 800M streams

Opalite: wheel of excuses to justify a nearly 1B streamed song that had spent a couple months in the top 10 before the release of physical for a #1 peak isn't a hit

Elizabeth Taylor: flop

I Knew It, I Knew You: another wheel of excuse for a song that has spent months in the top 10 most streamed song in the country

The fact there's a total of 6 actual flops in that entire list (and more songs that are actually album tracks) should really tell you something.

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Considering she has more songs with 30+ weeks on that Hot 100 than any other female artist in history, I'd say no problem. Thanks for showing that even her album tracks/songs released on one random format chart for multiple weeks, though.

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16 minutes ago, Spicy Pisces said:

Are these standalone singles or what on earth are these rip

They're all singles with TS as a lead artist or feature!

13 minutes ago, MonsterFandom said:

How do you have time to do this bullshit when you are finishing your master's? Something is fishy here user gelato

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12 minutes ago, Edge Of Glory said:

you should've used the hour you spent flipping between acharts and notepad tracking 30+ chart runs on your masters tbh

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The last weeks are just write-up and my thesis is quantitative so I've had a lot of time waiting on jobs to run smiley

But enough about me, let's get back to whether Taylor has an inorganic problem

7 minutes ago, Incandescent Glow said:

The fact there's a total of 6 actual flops in that entire list (and more songs that are actually album tracks) should really tell you something.

Well no! BTS also rack up billions of streams on western streaming platforms

NYD, Getaway Car, Babe, Betty, No Body No Crime, Coney Island, Message in a Bottle, Renegade, The Alcott were all singles. I included Babe (TV) in case someone tried to claim Babe actually did chart (at #69). Get to know your fave's discography!

IKIIKY has performed terribly on Spotify, Apple Music and Amazon Music since almost the very beginning. Definitely something fishy about its Billboard Streaming Chart performance

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The only wheel of excuses is your post + the claims that Amazon Music charts are bugged but only for Taylor bibliahh

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You literally named 3 mega smashes from the last 5 years and a bunch of other big hits. For some reason OTH are using "organic" as the new buzzword to drag Taylor even saying Eras tour is inorganic despite it's success and huge impact (literally had a huge impact on local economies and had cities doing lots of different things to celebrate).

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So Billboard chart runs are what matter for songs like cardigan and Lover but they don't matter for Opalite and IKIIKY?

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2 minutes ago, By the Water said:

So Billboard chart runs are what matter for songs like cardigan and Lover but they don't matter for Opalite and IKIIKY?

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So chart manipulation tactics aren't relevant to a discussion about whether she has an inorganic problem? rip

1 minute ago, gelato said:

So chart manipulation tactics aren't relevant to a discussion about whether she has an inorganic problem? rip

What's inorganic about her collaborations with Big Red Machine and The National charting?

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Not to mention that several of the songs listed had unspeakable levels of radio payola that didn't/don't align with the streaming performance. Imagine the chart-runs without them….

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1 hour ago, gelato said:

Is It Over Now? 1–3–5–9–21–30–36–40–49–13–13–17–17–21–18–18–18–18–16–27–31–47–OUT have you ever heard this #1 song?

Also, no, I have not

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I'll never understand the fake outrage of "her fanbase is huge and likes and supports her music" juanny

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