Doctor Dick

These illogical excuses. Let me write it plain and simple: Showgirl could break Adele's record in the US but could NOT break Adele's first week sales outside of the US and that's all we needed to know. You can try to excuse her all you want but they were on completely even ground. The reason why Taylor couldn't do it outside of the US is because Adele's peak is much bigger and the anticipation for 25 for non-Americans was bigger. And that's also the reason why it doesn't feel as big: Most of the world didn't care as much for Taylor's album as they did for Adele's behemoth smash.

She saw the album was too frontloaded and dropping in streams.

Mayhem was not critically panned though.

We do talk about what should've been a single from Mayhem, we don't need to go all the way back to TFM, so that drag doesn't make sense. Furthermore, I was asking why the first post of yours about Taylor's single is not how it's going to sound but where it's going to chart. Then again, I know Taylor's recent music quality does give an excuse to only talk about her chart stats so maybe there's that.

Yes. I was fiercely defending my fave against the army of OGHs that tried to spin a flop narrative in that thread. But I was here when Gaga was flopping and still stanned her because I'm not a success stan. I only see you discuss Taylor in terms of charts and sales.

Do you ever care about the music or is it just charts? OT: Ready for lyrics like "I thought you were my hero/Yet you made me patient zero" and more victim-playing.

He still hasn't been able to replicate the success of DWAS with any other recent collab so how can DWAS' success be only due to him?

Gaga with the fifth-biggest. A solo hit.

Someone wants on the "who to drag" list whenever Gaga scores another hit, I see.

We're talking quintessential smashes that also went #1 and were gigantic during their initial run. Love Story wasn't a hit in many territories in the 2000s. So I wouldn't count it. It's a hit but it's no Poker Face.

Well luckily you don't make the rules on what a hit is.

Her discography has many hits: Just Dance, Poker Face, Paparazzi, Bad Romance, Alejandro, Telephone, Born This Way, Judas, Applause, Shallow, Always Remember Us This Way, Die With A Smile, Abracadabra. What are you on about.

Taylor has a smash hit for the 2010s and 2020s. She doesn't have a Shake It Off for the 2000s. Beyoncé has for the 2000s but she doesn't have one for the 2010s and 2020s. Madonna is probably the only one as she has several smash hits in the 80s, Vogue in the 90s and then Hung Up in the 2000s.

I don't think there is someone like Gaga in terms of quintessential worldwide mega-hits in three decades. Each of her peers lacks that one song, maybe Rihanna would've been able to if she continued but other than her? We're talking a Poker Face each decade. That's very hard. Even Michael Jackson doesn't have that.

We don't want to stain the success with Bruno's recent gazillion flop collabs.