8 minutes ago, idkwiam said:

Do we know how many points she gained so far this era?

Decade end top artist 

 

Morgan is going to beat her for Artist of the decade crown. She easily lost 3M points by not reporting eras tour numbers, I can't handle #2 on decade end top artist again 

Edited November 25, 2025Nov 25 by Calvin

29 minutes ago, Calvin said:

Decade end top artist 

 

Morgan is going to beat her for Artist of the decade crown. She easily lost 3M points by not reporting eras tour numbers, I can't handle #2 on decade end top artist again 

How is this possible when she's above him on every year-end artist chart this decade so far, except probably 2025? Are they not calculated the same way as the AOTD chart?

1 minute ago, Arrows said:

How is this possible when she's above him on every year-end artist chart this decade so far, except probably 2025? Are they not calculated the same way as the AOTD chart?

This is hot 100 top artist (so far) and Morgan is very high on billboard 200 top artist as his albums are ridiculously stable in top 10 plus he has touring points too. 
Year end billboard 200 charts are based on units which Taylor is always far ahead but decade end charts are based on positions of albums (debuting with 200k at #1 is same as debuting with 4 million). Morgan may end up ahead because of his stability. 
For hot 100, it's the same story. Year end charts are based on cumulative weekly points but decade end charts are based on positions. 

1 minute ago, Calvin said:

This is hot 100 top artist (so far) and Morgan is very high on billboard 200 top artist as his albums are ridiculously stable in top 10 plus he has touring points too. 
Year end billboard 200 charts are based on units which Taylor is always far ahead but decade end charts are based on positions of albums (debuting with 200k at #1 is same as debuting with 4 million). Morgan may end up ahead because of his stability. 
For hot 100, it's the same story. Year end charts are based on cumulative weekly points but decade end charts are based on positions. 

Oh, that makes sense… Isn't he even further ahead on the BB200 decade end chart too?

 

Do we know if it would be too late for touring numbers to count if they were reported now or by the end of the decade? Just in case…

1 minute ago, Arrows said:

Oh, that makes sense… Isn't he even further ahead on the BB200 decade end chart too?

 

Do we know if it would be too late for touring numbers to count if they were reported now or by the end of the decade? Just in case…

I don't have billboard 200 data but yeah they must be super close but Morgan has solid lead on hot 100 and touring. 
And yes the window for reporting touring numbers is closed (Billboard confirmed it last year i think). Her team did a massive blunder by not reporting them, She can easily lose Artist of the decade crown again because of this stupidity.

3 minutes ago, Calvin said:

I don't have billboard 200 data but yeah they must be super close but Morgan has solid lead on hot 100 and touring. 
And yes the window for reporting touring numbers is closed (Billboard confirmed it last year i think). Her team did a massive blunder by not reporting them, She can easily lose Artist of the decade crown again because of this stupidity.

Oh well, let's hope she reports numbers for her next tour and Ophelia + Opalite keep smashing on the H100. If Showgirl already gained 1 million points in six weeks on the H100 artist chart she could catch up to him eventually if she releases as frequently as she has so far this decade. Another reason to do pre-release singles, cause her albums are always gonna do well!

5 minutes ago, Arrows said:

Oh well, let's hope she reports numbers for her next tour and Ophelia + Opalite keep smashing on the H100. If Showgirl already gained 1 million points in six weeks on the H100 artist chart she could catch up to him eventually if she releases as frequently as she has so far this decade. Another reason to do pre-release singles, cause her albums are always gonna do well!

Occupying whole top 10 3 times helped her massively. 
About reporting eras tour numbers to billboard boxscore, i still have doubts whether she can report now or not. I read somewhere that the window is closed but I can't find the article now. Hoping she still has the time but she's not reporting the numbers anyway. 

Edited November 25, 2025Nov 25 by Calvin

SO many points were made.

 

12 hours ago, idkwiam said:

What is the last update of this?

And the latest artist update:

 

Last  week	chg	Rank	Artist	Total  Points	Date Range	Increase
1	-	1	The Beatles	18,050,514	1964-2023	-
2	-	2	Madonna	17,214,174	1983-2023	-
3	-	3	Mariah Carey	16,057,272	1990-2025	21,900
4	-	4	Elton John	15,968,288	1970-2025	-
5	-	5	Elvis Presley	15,831,388	1958-2025	-
6	-	6	Stevie Wonder	14,334,092	1963-2005	-
7	-	7	Taylor Swift	13,968,769	2006-2025	84,744
8	-	8	Drake	13,694,196	2009-2025	-
9	-	9	Janet Jackson	13,372,591	1982-2025	-
10	-	10	Michael Jackson	13,003,808	1971-2025	-

 

@Arrows she crossed 1 million+ points this era (TTPD era only did ~850k) but Christmas songs gonna ruin it now. 

6 hours ago, Calvin said:

~950k. She had 12.94M points before showgirl, now she is at 13.88M (till 6th week). 
 

Wait that's really massive almost 1m point and Ophelia and Opalite will probably give many points next year and hopefully a remix could do some numbers

6 hours ago, Calvin said:

Decade end top artist 

 

Morgan is going to beat her for Artist of the decade crown. She easily lost 3M points by not reporting eras tour numbers, I can't handle #2 on decade end top artist again 

Genuine question. As Swifties are numbers all you care about? It seems the conversation consistently revolves around  points and metrics. 

5 minutes ago, Calvin said:

And the latest artist update:

 

Last  week	chg	Rank	Artist	Total  Points	Date Range	Increase
1	-	1	The Beatles	18,050,514	1964-2023	-
2	-	2	Madonna	17,214,174	1983-2023	-
3	-	3	Mariah Carey	16,057,272	1990-2025	21,900
4	-	4	Elton John	15,968,288	1970-2025	-
5	-	5	Elvis Presley	15,831,388	1958-2025	-
6	-	6	Stevie Wonder	14,334,092	1963-2005	-
7	-	7	Taylor Swift	13,968,769	2006-2025	84,744
8	-	8	Drake	13,694,196	2009-2025	-
9	-	9	Janet Jackson	13,372,591	1982-2025	-
10	-	10	Michael Jackson	13,003,808	1971-2025	-

 

@Arrows she crossed 1 million+ points this era (TTPD era only did ~850k) but Christmas songs gonna ruin it now. 

It looks like she will end up at #4 in the long run. Mariah, Madonna and The Beatles seems out of reach for the moment but I would say if she focuses on singles for TS13/14 she could really climb very high

Guilty As Sin hitting hard today

Having an affair really helps put Taylor song into perspective 

11 minutes ago, longjohn9898 said:

Genuine question. As Swifties are numbers all you care about? It seems the conversation consistently revolves around  points and metrics. 

Go and read the album thread, we always talk about the album there. 

 

And I just copied these stats from other forum. And yes, I personally love tracking stats & charts (not just of Taylor but other artists too). 

Edited November 26, 2025Nov 26 by Calvin

5 minutes ago, idkwiam said:

It looks like she will end up at #4 in the long run. Mariah, Madonna and The Beatles seems out of reach for the moment but I would say if she focuses on singles for TS13/14 she could really climb very high

One more eras type tour before the end of this decade will be enough to enter top 4 and take AOTD crown (#2 of 2010s still hurts). 

 

Actually Romantic is OUT! Please vote in Round 3

16 hours ago, FolkLover1989 said:

Guilty As Sin hitting hard today

Having an affair really helps put Taylor song into perspective 

Not you guys entering your side-chick era before your reputation era.

 

Maybe I'm the problem for going through a IDSB-DBM-LWYMMD era.

32 minutes ago, Taylor fanboy said:

Not you guys entering your side-chick era before your reputation era.

 

Maybe I'm the problem for going through a IDSB-DBM-LWYMMD era.

Side chick era can only lead to Reputation I fear

I am in my August and Illicit Affairs era and there seems to be no end 

On 11/25/2025 at 11:03 PM, idkwiam said:

It looks like she will end up at #4 in the long run. Mariah, Madonna and The Beatles seems out of reach for the moment but I would say if she focuses on singles for TS13/14 she could really climb very high

I'd like to think she can probably climb to 3, I think she and Mariah will probably pass Madonna when all is said and done, but she'll stay short of the Beatles and Mariah will climb steadily with Xmas until she is ultimately crowned as top billboard hot 100 artist.

Edited November 30, 2025Nov 30 by Flames2Embers
Grammar

If Taylor nabs a runner-up Christmas classic, ahe can catch up with Mariah.

I consider myself to be swiftie but i dont like that theres no pre-order for her merch. i feel like the eras tour tickets situatuon every single time. can she please change that??

where are the tortured poets??

Edited December 4, 2025Dec 4 by Cole

1 hour ago, Cole said:

where are the tortured poets??

Here

All five of my top songs on wrapped this year were torchurd pots classics

2 minutes ago, hoax said:

Here

All five of my top songs on wrapped this year were torchurd pots classics

I'm still in the tortured poets department. I love it so much. It's my 6th most played album this year.

4 minutes ago, Cole said:

I'm still in the tortured poets department. I love it so much. It's my 6th most played album this year.

ddddd it was my #1, and probably by a wide margin