She is getting dragged in the responses.

not this again

Edited July 24Jul 24 by Katamari

nah that btch is colored.

she picked a side, stay there.

Sorry anyone who can't wrap their head around this needs is dumb af. Crack a history book please.

Why are we still having this conversation?

Tyla is Black and she's also Coloured in South Africa. She has Zulu heritage, and here's her beautifully honoring the heritage her grandmother passed down to her for those saying she isn't.

Edited July 24Jul 24 by Maggiesofia54

Nobody actually cares about this. Like genuinely, this isn't keeping anyone up at night. This is so dumb. Get a grip

18 minutes ago, Devin said:

nah that btch is colored.

she picked a side, stay there.

DBDBDBDDBDDBDBDBB

Americans truly never miss a chance to show they have zero awareness of anything that happens outside of their borders

19 minutes ago, Devin said:

nah that btch is colored.

she picked a side, stay there.

She said it herself!

OMG?! REALLY?!

The fact that this is up for a debate... Also threads like these contribute more racism from the usual suspects here.

Edited July 24Jul 24 by Vorfreude

Wrdgaf

Ask her the important questions. Why did she think A*CHOP was acceptable?

the US and its absurd obsession with pseudoscientific racial categories she is correct

Could anyone explain to me on what basis she wouldn't be considered black? Genuine question.

This generations Jennifer Lopez

5 minutes ago, Puma said:

the US and its absurd obsession with pseudoscientific racial categories she is correct

These types of comments completely disregard the context of the word in this country. She's constantly promoting to an American audience so people have a right to question something that was and is contextually different in our environment. "Colored" is absolutely a trigger to black Americans, especially elder ones. Discussing the context does not take away her identity at all.

So what I got from this is that Americans are unable to fathom the concept of race (a social construct, right) being different in other countries.

Just now, SimpleKindofLife said:

These types of comments completely disregard the context of the word in this country. She's constantly promoting to an American audience so people have a right to question something that was and is contextually different in our environment. "Colored" is absolutely a trigger to black Americans, especially elder ones. Discussing the context does not take away her identity at all.

Considering the context of the entire rest of the world is not an option? the perspectives the global south has about race and ethnicity are not valid? fix this US-centered mentality

9 minutes ago, SimpleKindofLife said:

These types of comments completely disregard the context of the word in this country. She's constantly promoting to an American audience so people have a right to question something that was and is contextually different in our environment. "Colored" is absolutely a trigger to black Americans, especially elder ones. Discussing the context does not take away her identity at all.

Yall are just US centered so please

2 minutes ago, Puma said:

Considering the context of the entire rest of the world is not an option? the perspectives the global south has about race and ethnicity are not valid? fix this US-centered mentality

2 minutes ago, Dialamba said:

Yall are just US centered so please

It's not a US centered mentality to talk about our history and our triggers. Tyla wants American fans clearly so we're allowed to talk about it. I wish non-Americans like yourselves would read up on the lasting effects of Jim Crow because these types of statements are so dismissive and weird. My point completely went over your heads but I'm not surprised, people in our own country have tried to erase this history. What I do know is that I don't like apartheid and that's exactly where "coloured" came from.

7 minutes ago, SimpleKindofLife said:

It's not a US centered mentality to talk about our history and our triggers. Tyla wants American fans clearly so we're allowed to talk about it. I wish non-Americans like yourselves would read up on the lasting effects of Jim Crow because these types of statements are so dismissive and weird. My point completely went over your heads but I'm not surprised, people in our own country have tried to erase this history. What I do know is that I don't like apartheid and that's exactly where "coloured" came from.

You can talk about your history and context, and Tyla will rightfully talk about hers.

Not this debate again

The way the US tries so hard to make everyone fit into black/white categories, even for people born at the other side of the world

I'm American and I learned about Apartheid years ago because Troye Sivan always talked about it. Coloured has a different meaning in South Africa. That is her identity and she's allowed to express it if she feels necessary.

21 minutes ago, SimpleKindofLife said:

It's not a US centered mentality to talk about our history and our triggers. Tyla wants American fans clearly so we're allowed to talk about it. I wish non-Americans like yourselves would read up on the lasting effects of Jim Crow because these types of statements are so dismissive and weird. My point completely went over your heads but I'm not surprised, people in our own country have tried to erase this history. What I do know is that I don't like apartheid and that's exactly where "coloured" came from.

Why should one hesitate to talk based on the sensibilities of the American people or any community in the world? Especially when they're obviously black? Is she obliged to shape her statements regarding her own race according to the sensitivities of the US black folks? That's wild.