So how about both???

On 4/14/2025 at 12:38 PM, bjorn said:

Judging by the crowd reaction it certainly wasn't Gagchella. Literally no one was dancing never seen a crowd more dead. 
 

If you watch videos made by people in the crowd you could hear a lot of people singing along, the official livestream removes audience sounds so we can hear Gaga better.

all of this talk trying to diminish Beyoncés success and impact is so forced. what's funny about all of this is that if any you ask ANY of your faves about Beychella (including Gaga most probably) they'll tell you that it's one of the best (if not the best) performances ever presented on a festival stage because they actually understand and grasp the amount of work that had to be done to achieve the absolute perfection and preciseness that Beychella presented, no sets, different stages, gimmicks or props needed

 

it's embarrassing to try and call it "boring" or "mediocre" or claim that the dancers carried the performance when 99% of the people making those claims have never been a part of or worked on a stage production, much less of that scale

 

gaga's show was amazing, but as it often happens, the production, the sets and props were almost the main attraction of the show. that's not to say gaga put on a bad performance, in fact i would argue it's one of the best performances she's ever delivered, and considering she's being doing it for 17 years and has gone through numerous health issues that at some point did affect the way she performs, it's actually quite impressive

 

at the end of the day, gaga's performance style is very different from beyoncé's. she's always had a deep theater influence, and she delivered exactly that, on steroids.

 

a few days ago i went as far as to say Beychella was better than Gaga's performance, but i don't think i would say that anymore. they both delivered excellence in their own lanes, but as a performer myself, i tend to lean towards Bey's approach to it, which is that the magic of the show and the main attraction is her raw talent and unmatched stage presence, the rest of the elements are simply used to highlight and enhance it. she did have a ton of people onstage (band members, background singers and dancers) but they were all also displaying indisputable raw talent, which is exactly what a music festival performance should be, a display of artistic excellence and raw talent, nothing less, nothing more. she gave a platform to a lot of people to shine as a group on stage, while also remaining the main attraction herself. the rest of it was scaffolding and lights, and with only those elements (talent, lights and some stairs), she was capable of delivering a perfectly cohesive, entertaining show that flows seamlessly. that's my preference, but that doesn't mean Gaga's performance wasn't excellent, because it just was.

 

now, going as far as to say Beyoncé's performance wasn't good or try to diminish her influence just to "prove a point" or to convince yourself that Gaga's approach to it was better, that's absurd.

Edited April 15, 20251 yr by bync

19 minutes ago, Weld_E said:

And yet NO ONE (not even her own stans) knew about this until the "-chella" convo started, while Beychella lives rent-free in pop culture. It's not about who said it first (Gaga likely didn't either), it's about who made it iconic.

 

Need a clearer example? Remember when Gaga was actually relevant in 2010 and her wild outfits had every pop girl scrambling to play dress-up? She didn't invent eccentric fashion, but she made it a movement at the time. Hope this helps

 

If an artist perched on the spotify top 10 daily artists isn't relevant, then who is? and when was the list time Beyoncé was relevant according to that standart?

Edited April 15, 20251 yr by SweetOreosOfHeaven

43 minutes ago, Aden said:

Didn't CC debut with like 70 million streams? What a colossal BOMB

Thanks Bruno lmaooooo

 

32 minutes ago, Weld_E said:

Need a clearer example? Remember when Gaga was actually relevant in 2010 and her wild outfits had every pop girl scrambling to play dress-up? She didn't invent eccentric fashion, but she made it a movement at the time. Hope this helps

The fact that a Gaga song from 2010 is Beyoncé's second most successful song on Spotify right now despite her releasing five studio albums, one collaborative album, one soundtrack and one live album since then. No wonder you guys are mad.

 

5 minutes ago, Brikenbur said:

Thanks Bruno lmaooooo

Mayhem (13 tracks) is outstreaming Cowboy Carter (27 tracks) even if you remove DWAS. Lmaoooooooo indeed 

 

y'all arguing over the use of ending an artists name with -chella instead of arguing about the actual performance is sending me a bit 

Just now, lgaga1fan said:

y'all arguing over the use of ending an artists name with -chella instead of arguing about the actual performance is sending me a bit 

We don't call them the twitter vibes fandom for nothing 

i prefer Gagachella and its the better one

Gaga was better 

1 hour ago, DaphneGuinness said:

Mayhem (13 tracks) is outstreaming Cowboy Carter (27 tracks) even if you remove DWAS. Lmaoooooooo indeed 

 

Yet it does significantly worse on the charts because it sells less and does less on Apple Music

 

27 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

Yet it does significantly worse on the charts because it sells less and does less on Apple Music

 

It is performing significantly better on every single chart except for the ones in USA

4 hours ago, Pop Art said:

Let's add some further context and also remove songs that were released within a year of the performance, since those would naturally be higher, and look at the progression each day since their respective performances.

 

Lady Gaga (Day of Performance to Day 3 After Performance)

Poker Face: #160 -> #120 -> #92 -> #78

Just Dance: N/A -> N/A -> #191 - #161

Bad Romance: N/A -> N/A -> #192 -> #158

Judas: N/A -> N/A -> N/A -> #180

 

Beyoncé (Day of Performance to Day 3 After Performance)

Halo: N/A -> #185 -> #184 -> #185

 

One clearly had more of an impact on consumption than the other.

Well, good thing the OP isn't about streams 

Just now, Brikenbur said:

Well, good thing the OP isn't about streams 

The OP is a poll and we know who is winning it 

Wow @ the poll results. No wonder people are still in here seething 4 days later

 

 

Just now, DaphneGuinness said:

The OP is a poll and we know who is winning it 

Yes, let's add this on the list of groundbreaking achievements for the MAYHEM error 

2 minutes ago, Brikenbur said:

Yes, let's add this on the list of groundbreaking achievements for MAYHEM 

Yes, yet another achievement for the album which is outstreaming not one but two of Beyoncé's latest full-length releases combined 

Edited April 15, 20251 yr by DaphneGuinness

It is gaga, for me

11 minutes ago, DaphneGuinness said:

Yes, yet another achievement for the album which is outstreaming not one but two of Beyoncé's latest full-length releases combined 

Yes, let's compare streams… and while we're on the subject, let's compare total units sold on both of Beyoncé's last two albums and compare them with Gaga's? We could even throw in RWT and Gaga's baseball stadium tour gross/attendance records while we're at it 

 

Edited April 15, 20251 yr by Brikenbur

11 minutes ago, Brikenbur said:

Yes, let's compare streams… and while we're on the subject, let's compare total units sold on both of Beyoncé's last two albums and compare them with Gaga's? We could even throw in RWT and Gaga's baseball stadium tour gross/attendance records while we're at it 

 

Album units sold

 

Chromatica 4,043,000

Mayhem 4,694,000

 

Total: 8,737,000

 

Renaissance 4,758,000

Cowboy Carter 2,760,000

 

Total: 7,518,000

 

7 hours ago, sunbathinganimal said:

twitter engagement as a measure of success ijbol

 

Once a Katycat, always a Katycat! They love them some 300k+ tweets as testimony of Ms. Hudson's imminent resurrection!

 

 

Something about old dogs and new tricks?

Edited April 15, 20251 yr by CoolNebraskaGuy

wait hold up (no pun intended), beigh's second most streamed song yesterday was telephone? and that same song was like gaga's 12th? 

 

then why the heck her fans keep telling atrl that queen beigh is still dominating? giving me a living in their own fantasy tbh.

On 4/12/2025 at 8:21 AM, wildsidenormani said:

'gagachella' will never be a thing 

 

beychella clears with ease. gaga was good though 

*checks poll*

 

I see

1 hour ago, xiaoxiaoyu said:

wait hold up (no pun intended), beigh's second most streamed song yesterday was telephone? and that same song was like gaga's 12th? 

 

then why the heck her fans keep telling atrl that queen beigh is still dominating? giving me a living in their own fantasy tbh.

They meant the 2.2M Tweeter Vibes