The team was kinda put in a bad spot for disease's release date tbh.

you can't release it in September because die with a smile just came out and is blowing up,

 

you can't release it at the start of October because of joker 2,

 

you can't release it in November/December because Christmas freeze,

 

you can't wait until January because fans are expecting new music and you promised it back in the summer

 

maybe they should've never committed to LG7 lead in October, but I'm quite happy that we got disease when we did. 
 

I think 1 week early, October 18th should've been the move, but that's like super specific and close enough to what they did. I say it was the right release date but they should definitely move on to single #2 ASAP and push harder the first week than they did for disease 

1 minute ago, Denim said:

all valid points, I'm happy I asked!

yeah, these days it's all about pushing hard as fast as possible to get as much momentum as possible for the song 

 

that's lowkey how it's always been though, which is why the disease roll-out was so strange to begin with. did they think casual fans would gag over random website links or changing her spotify track list to spell out the song title? only hardcore fans would notice, most wouldn't even think twice about it tbh. 

 

I remember someone did some rough math and had she sold physicals with a video on release day, it probably would've debuted in the lower half of the top 10. 

 

But anyways, onto greater things 

Just now, Edonis said:

that's lowkey how it's always been though, which is why the disease roll-out was so strange to begin with. did they think casual fans would gag over random website links or changing her spotify track list to spell out the song title? only hardcore fans would notice, most wouldn't even think twice about it tbh. 

 

I remember someone did some rough math and had she sold physicals with a video on release day, it probably would've debuted in the lower half of the top 10. 

 

But anyways, onto greater things 

Yeah it would've very likely been top 10 or extremely close 

2 minutes ago, Denim said:

The team was kinda put in a bad spot for disease's release date tbh.

you can't release it in September because die with a smile just came out and is blowing up,

 

you can't release it at the start of October because of joker 2,

 

you can't release it in November/December because Christmas freeze,

 

you can't wait until January because fans are expecting new music and you promised it back in the summer

 

maybe they should've never committed to LG7 lead in October, but I'm quite happy that we got disease when we did. 
 

I think 1 week early, October 18th should've been the move, but that's like super specific and close enough to what they did. I say it was the right release date but they should definitely move on to single #2 ASAP and push harder the first week than they did for disease 

I dont blame Disease its super good track. 

Chart position will never change my mind. 

 

But yeah this era is in danger because of DWAS, they should use and try every single trick and find a way to make next single co exists along with DWAS. 

Dance in the Shadow as a snippet is so forgettable right now.

 

It sounds promising but it also seems like it gives us nothing atm 

 

Feels like every other snippet gave us a good taste of the rest of its song, and we love what we hear

10 minutes ago, Denim said:

Disease definitely could've gotten a cuter, top 10-15 peak if they pushed harder on week 1, between TTH placements, video release timing, lack of physicals, and her going all out on tiktok. That I definitely will agree with feels mismanaged if I put my manager hat on 

It couldn't have been bigger tbh. It was coming off a big hit, and has shown a bit of longevity, but it just wasn't what people wanted. 

Gaga's going to get 4 collab #1s this year. Yep yep

 

1 with Bruno, 1 with The Weeknd, 1 with Chap and 1 with Taylor on reputation tv

1 minute ago, Vroom Vroom said:

Gaga's going to get 4 collab #1s this year. Yep yep

 

1 with Bruno, 1 with The Weeknd, 1 with Chap and 1 with Taylor on reputation tv

And 1 solo #1 She'll go from 5 #1s to 10 #1s in a single year.

Unpopular opinion but a Gaga and Morgan Wallen collab would SLAP, with their raspy Dope'd vocals, the MAGA crowd would eat it up like they do at the Golden Corral buffet, and it would become the biggest song in USA history 
 

I don't care, arrest me Russia!!! 

Disease showed that Gaga needs to build hype and anticipation for singles. The fact she is still silent about the whole album is concerning 

2 hours ago, frankvert said:

Just listened to Real Love Baby and she is SO unserious for picking Come To Mother Gothel over it. Gar was truly lost in a weed & Taylor Kinney induced haze back then. There's no other explanation for such a tasteless decision, I fear 

didn't Taylor and Gaga split like 3 months before the release of Joanne 

2 hours ago, PerfectCure said:

The song would have never been top 10. Sorry to say this monsterz but It's not catchy enough when you compare it to the rest of her catalogue. 

"lay you down like 123" washes the entirety of Stupid Noise and that debuted at #5

28 minutes ago, Europe said:

She should have released it with the video and with physicals. Going for longevity is NOT the move when the Christmas Freeze is so close. I know what she was going for but it was ill-timed.

basically this, jfad probably ruined the scheduling because disease being released late summer early september or even october could have given it some more time, why would you release it so close to the christmas freeze and then support it? ofc it was gonna flop 

 

i think the only explanation is that this song was literally a gift to the fans for halloween, never intended to be a commercial single 

10 minutes ago, Burqa said:

didn't Taylor and Gaga split like 3 months before the release of Joanne 

She posted that they were splitsville on July 20, 2016. But obviously they were having troubles before then & were likely broken up before she even posted that. So my point still stands, especially as she was mastering Joanne literally up until the 11:59pm deadline as we saw in 5F2 

3 minutes ago, Rith said:

basically this, jfad probably ruined the scheduling because disease being released late summer early september or even october could have given it some more time, why would you release it so close to the christmas freeze and then support it? ofc it was gonna flop 

 

i think the only explanation is that this song was literally a gift to the fans for halloween, never intended to be a commercial single 

Pretty sure they planned on releasing the LG7 lead single in 2025, but after JFAD started getting bad press they quickly released Disease to try to distract people 

 

Summer 2024 was never in the plans 

If anything, they probably were going to start the LG7 era after the award season when they thought JFAD still had a chance. 
 

In an interview a member of Interscope said that they wanted LG7 to be similar to Billie's recent rollout. I'm starting to think Die With A Smile was supposed to be her What Was I Made For. But JFAD bombing changed everything 

Oh Godsease… cant believe they tried to switch up on you. But your quality shined through and you prospered 

 

 

53 minutes ago, Human Fly said:

Tbh she should release a collab as next single and should release another big one along with album release

I guess we aren't even trying to hide it anymore 

We need collabs with Benson Boone and Mk.gee on LG8

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Human Fly said:

No music video during release day

No physicals, lead single merch on release day/week 

She didnt post about it until people freaked out about music video. 

No performances or any appearances 

No interviews about the song.

none of these are matter if the song were single material. DWAS smashes on it own with a simple video and minimum promotion

13 minutes ago, Freaky Prince said:

I guess we aren't even trying to hide it anymore 

Hiding what? 

1 hour ago, Human Fly said:

No music video during release day

No physicals, lead single merch on release day/week 

She didnt post about it until people freaked out about music video. 

No performances or any appearances 

No interviews about the song.

We all know very well why there was no promotion: they were betting everything on the success of Joker 2, hoping for a Lady Gaga at the peak, everywhere and on everyone's lips. They believed that would be enough for the song to succeed.
Unfortunately, the success didn't materialize for the movie. And, as usual, they had no plan B.
That being said, I think she wanted to avoid doing media interviews or appearing on talk shows because they felt uncomfortable with Joker 2's failure and didn't want to face questions about it.

• DWAS: 1,428,679,042 (+9,921,299)
• Poker Face: 1,504,370,271 (+1,023,163)
• Shallow: 2,635,993,293 (+878,624)
• Disease: 103,333,246 (+873,554)
• ARUTW: 1,452,468,837 (+861,035)
• Just Dance: 1,228,967,918 (+828,102)
• Bad Romance: 1,393,503,391 (+742,957)
• Judas: 678,836,311 (+716,718)

Is Ga Ga still sleeping?

 

 

54 minutes ago, TheOrangeTree said:

We all know very well why there was no promotion: they were betting everything on the success of Joker 2, hoping for a Lady Gaga at the peak, everywhere and on everyone's lips. They believed that would be enough for the song to succeed.
Unfortunately, the success didn't materialize for the movie. And, as usual, they had no plan B.
That being said, I think she wanted to avoid doing media interviews or appearing on talk shows because they felt uncomfortable with Joker 2's failure and didn't want to face questions about it.

her team and joker team really did a great job about joker bombing/flopping tbh. the lashings didnt last that long. I know its gonna have a 2nd wave of lashing by awards season but they really did a great job avoiding a huge mess on its release month. it couldve been 10000x worse

Edited January 3, 20251 yr by MonsterNavy