I love hearing all your well written thoughts on my subjects. Thank you everyone!!!! Very insightful especially @Cbreezy  

 

With that said @ShouldersSideways mentioned that they’re certain the Carters distanced from Kanye. I actually think they’re still friends but on the LOW. They have no choice but to stay close or he will lash out again and air out all their dirty laundry. I believe they went to dinner with him a year ago in private but no pictures were seen. Kanye posted his review of Renaissance on instagram a few months after it came out so he doesn’t hate her like I’d expect him to if she completely cut him off. They (especially bey) like cbreezy said are very strategic about their publicity. I can’t imagine what Kanye would say next if they dropped him. I’m surprised people quickly forgot how he said Beyonce refused to perform unless she won the vma award for best video (formation) over Kanye and Drake. Which would make sense because Drake seemed to throw sly shots at Beyonce (and basically ever famous person tbh) since then even though he gave her the Heated sample. Even Jay liked an anti Drake tweet. Drake then boycotting the Grammys made me go hmmm. Maybe there’s more to it than we know. I do think you can cheat your way into winning at most award shows but the Grammys are 100% legit in the main categories imo. 

Edited October 19, 20232 yr by Fleahive

At first, I was sure the live album would come at the same time as the movie, but now I'm worried we'll have to wait for a few weeks...

It just came to me when I realized that other movie didn't come with a live album on streaming platforms...

AMC might want to maximize the replay value by forcing the fans to come back to see the film once again.

 

What do you think she'll do?

3 minutes ago, Fleahive said:

I do think you can cheat your way into winning at most award shows but the Grammys are 100% legit in the main categories imo. 

Respectfully disagree. 

54 minutes ago, chosensparkles said:

we kinda need a Gaga x Beyoncé to see both OGHs and OBHs lose it

we do, but beak has to become interesting again and lay off the jazz vocals, can’t have her on a beyoncé track sounding like a Liza Minnelli tribute act 

1 minute ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

we do, but beak has to become interesting again

Don't hold your breath

 

 

 

4 minutes ago, Mitsouko said:

Don't hold your breath

 

i won’t 

 

3 minutes ago, V$. said:

 

 

nobody said she was on the november issue tho ? that other site just said she’s gonna do a BV cover but didn’t say when, she can be on the december cover 

2 minutes ago, Devin said:

Respectfully disagree. 

What I got from what @Fleahive said is that other shows (VMAs, for example) can be bent to fit the demands of the artist in ways perhaps the Grammys don't. E.g. in Bey's case, "I'm only coming if I'm being honored". Which definitely is her flex these days and I'm 10000% here for it. 

 

With the Grammys, it's still rigged af IMO, but moreso from a committee standpoint. Both the make up of its members, the voting pacts, etc. That said, because of its faux air of prestige, I don't believe even the top-tier acts can mandate that they must win to attend. The most I think they get in a pre-emptive capacity is a private handshake about how attending will be worth their while. Hence, why I think Bey has been playing ball post the Lemonade snub and the 444 fiasco. Each time she's gone in recent years, snubs aside, they've still managed to make her a key part of the broadcast (e.g. most awarded xyz). 

Beyoncé kinda going ghost unless she’s on stage at her concerts stops people from calling her overrated all the time. If she does too much she easily becomes overexposed and people start calling her overrated and all this bullshit

The Grammys are not that legit and that’s why I don’t think bey really flexes them anymore. She used to really flex them but I think when she gave blue one as a sippy cup that was done  she has 500m-in-3-month tours to embark on now onto bigger and better things. Next album I kinda want her to skip going altogether. Imagine that be the time she actually wins AOTY

Edited October 19, 20232 yr by bijonse

I wanted her to never show her face at the Grammys again after the self titled snub.

 

but fave is going to be front row losing AOTY every time

39 minutes ago, bijonse said:

Beyoncé kinda going ghost unless she’s on stage at her concerts stops people from calling her overrated all the time. If she does too much she easily becomes overexposed and people start calling her overrated and all this bullshit

I’ve always thought the same, but now award shows are in the gutter. It’s crazy how much Beyoncé meant to me when it came to award shows, it’s part of the reason I stan. Like there’s something I like and respect about most MPGs and whatnot, but it’s rarely their live performances. Like I’m not sitting thru an award show for drama and gowns. I’m only sat when Beyoncé is listed a performer. 

People will call her overrated no matter what, who cares

I'm playing The Beyoncé Experience live audio and it's so ******* good. If I dont see RWT live album up on all platforms December 1st I'm suing her for damages

1 minute ago, Mitsouko said:

People will call her overrated no matter what, who cares

People’s opinion of her is not her concern, it’s theirs.

Someone who thinks she can’t sing or is overrated will not stop thinking or saying she’s overrated just because she’s not active. 

How would you feel about her working with any of these producers again:

 

Rich Harrison

Boots

Timbaland

Swizz Beats

Ryan Tedder

Diplo

Cool and Dre

Scott Storch

Rodney Jerkins

Forgot to say: saw yesterday that the person that gave the info about Bey doing Vogue UK only had that post in the forum  It was probably one of those Bey Twitter accounts trying to get some likes reposting things they made up. 

34 minutes ago, DR0GO said:

How would you feel about her working with any of these producers again:

 

Rich Harrison

Boots

Timbaland

Swizz Beats

Ryan Tedder

Diplo

Cool and Dre

Scott Storch

Rodney Jerkins

Would love some Darkchild, but what I really want back is Pharrell. He GETS Bey.

38 minutes ago, DR0GO said:

How would you feel about her working with any of these producers again:

 

Rich Harrison

Boots

Timbaland

Swizz Beats

Ryan Tedder

Diplo

Cool and Dre

Scott Storch

Rodney Jerkins

Bolded the ones I'm interested in hearing/

 

I've always really adored her work with Swiss Beatz and wanted her to work together again, and am confident that with her input today they could make something great again...bc I don't remember the last thing he produced I that I liked (maybe it was 2010?)

Rich would be amazing too, to see what they come up with in 2024(?).

Same with Scott Storch, though his music is a bit cheesy so would need to be used in the context of giving that mid-2000s throwback, like a bonus song on a greatest hits or something.

49 minutes ago, DR0GO said:

How would you feel about her working with any of these producers again:

 

Rich Harrison

Boots

Timbaland

Swizz Beats

Ryan Tedder

Diplo

Cool and Dre

Scott Storch

Rodney Jerkins

I need B'Day 2.0 in my veins.

 

I mainly want her to work with Teddy Park.

3 minutes ago, PinkLamborghini said:

I mainly want her to work with Teddy Park.

Oh you must hate her? 

I keep seeing people say there’s rumors Bey and Reba worked together but I’m not seeing any receipts…y’all seen that?

The film rollout is unbelievably boring and uneventful 

1 hour ago, bijonse said:

The Grammys are not that legit and that’s why I don’t think bey really flexes them anymore. She used to really flex them but I think when she gave blue one as a sippy cup that was done  she has 500m-in-3-month tours to embark on now onto bigger and better things. Next album I kinda want her to skip going altogether. Imagine that be the time she actually wins AOTY

I'm really interested to see how she navigates the Grammys moving forward. 

 

I swore up and down the forum that Rennie would finally be "it" for AOTY. Not just because it's deserving but because of the optics. But alas, they did her dirty again. 

 

She got her run with the whole "most awarded" stuff, which will take her peers a long time to match. 

 

Because of that, she really ought to pay them dust. Like dust dust. I kinda get the sense that may be happening as her only submissions for the 2024 ceremony are for Echoes, which Travis submitted. She may simply want to put a hard stop on the Rennie era with the film, but Bey of yesteryear would have submitted the CI and AHAP remixes. Given the quality of both, she'd for sure have nabbed noms too. 

 

Whatever the case, she needs to really cut that cord until they do right.

I don't really see Beyoncé giving up the Grammys. Like it or not, it's still THE prestige award of the industry, and the limiting of her exposure to only those such occurrences means that it's going to remain the most likely ceremony she'll attend (like the Oscars). Not only that, but her being the most awarded artist of all time there probably lends her some further reason to attend, if not to continue it, then to uphold her legendary status with the ceremony itself. She could either let that be trivia, or be how they always announce her every time she attends, etc.