38 minutes ago, Pluto6 said:

The way you never say a thing in here, and now breaking your silence for NCT WISH out of all groups 

NCT Wish isn't irrelevant after all huh

everyone loves Poppop 

 

Edited April 17, 20251 yr by youresotoxic

24 minutes ago, Pluto6 said:

The way you never say a thing in here, and now breaking your silence for NCT WISH out of all groups 

Myah should've left TOP Media after GP999 ended in 2021 I'm so pissed she's in this group that's bound to never rise from nugudom.

 

 

50 minutes ago, Cheers said:

Who is this Sakura?? and why is she against ENGOD? 

Sakura from LOS SER

was exposed as fatphobic in her past tweets I believe (which she claimed she got hacked)

 

knowing the situation against SUNOO, I am worried that this Sakura…

 

 

hopefully she stay away from SUNOO and the rest of ENHYPEN

The gag that it sill sitting in the top 10 of circle chart. 1B next   

 

 

30 minutes ago, Bewitched said:

Myah should've left TOP Media after GP999 ended in 2021 I'm so pissed she's in this group that's bound to never rise from nugudom.

 

 

Miu really is the true winner of GP999

I'm sorry but thinking SKZ music is more recognizable to the average kpop fan than aespa music is a wild take

 

I mean look at any random play dance like this recent one in London and compare the SKZ crowds to aespa crowds

 

 

(timestamps are first comment)

1 hour ago, Eternium said:

Girl, you have so much to learn. 

 

Not that fanmade YT video. The fact that you're claiming to be a music expert, and actually believe JLo "stole" vocals 

 

 

1 hour ago, Eternium said:

Just look at how Aespa's and NJZ's title tracks destroy SKZ's in streams despite a fraction of the career and a fraction of the releases.

Stop hiding behind NewJeans and sneaking in aespa as well:

 

SKZ most streamed song:

God's Menu - 421M streams - 247K daily streams

 

aespa's most streamed song:

Drama - 361M streams - 288K daily streams

 

They are literally almost pulling the same daily streams despite God's Menu being released in 2020, while Drama was released in 2023, more than 3 years after. Keep in mind SKZ also has more streams across their entire discography, while people only stream aespa's singles.

 

1 hour ago, Eternium said:

Billboard Global 200:

Whiplash - 25 weeks (still charting)

How Sweet - 13 weeks

Drama - 11 weeks 

MANIAC - 5 weeks

God's Menu - 0 weeks

Billboard Global 200 didn't exist when God's Menu was released. It's funny how you only focused on that specific Chart, since it's the only global chart aespa are doing better than SKZ in, while at the same time you will downplay and ignore Spotify which is a way bigger metric, and the biggest and most relevant streaming platform in the world 

 

Btw God's Menu for example is already certified Gold and is eligible for Platinum in the US. It has also over 500M views which is more than any aespa song

 

1 hour ago, Eternium said:

Boy groups really heavily on a demographic of young girls to move their products, but their music struggles to crossover. Because their demographic is loyal, they don't have a need to aim for hits.

 

Girl groups have more general public appeal but are more volatile because they don't get the solid fanbases that boy groups do. Girl groups get much bigger, more recognizable songs while boy groups are better at selling albums and photocards. Just look at how Aespa's and NJZ's title tracks destroy SKZ's in streams despite a fraction of the career and a fraction of the releases.

By hit, you only mean in Korea right? Cause otherwise no one outside of Kpop spaces know about aespa's "hits" either or most Kpop hits in general just as it is with boy groups that you claim are hitless. Like they are all in the same boat. So aespa having a hit in Korea, does not actually influence what global Kpop fans listen to or not. 

 

I think you are projecting whatever image you have of specific boy groups and generalize way too much. 

 

1 hour ago, Eternium said:

This thread never did until Pluto started getting jealous of Aespa's and NJ's recognition and trying to drag them. It's the only reason we even bother to lash SKZ. It's funny because he tries to play the victim afterwards every single time.

You were the one always randomly bringing up SKZ and shaded them constantly from all the way back to 2023, let's not rewrite history now. You always had a hate towards boy groups, and it has nothing to do with me or SKZ. If you look at your post history, you will realize that you're the one constantly starting the fanwars in here with me, and constantly brought up SKZ whenever I had a different music opinion. 

 

It's 2025, and SKZ are still #1 across almost every important global metric among 4th gen, give it up Deelishis

 

 

 

Edited April 17, 20251 yr by Pluto6

her stamina is so bad but she looks so good.

 

 

9 hours ago, smates said:

I'm always here for Jungkook praise (even if it's from a BTS hater).

 

A year or two ago, someone tried to use "Jack of all trades, master of none" as an insult for Jungkook in this thread and when I shared clips of him performing Euphoria while flying over Wembley at 21 yo, they were like "What's so impressive about this?" 

 

Being a "jack of all trades, master of none" isn't an insult when it comes to performers. Not everyone can be Beyoncé, and that's fine.

 

But Jungkook is someone with a 12-year career and not a single bad performance to their name. We are talking about performances at the Grammys, Times Square, and FIFA opening ceremony, btw.

 

When you think about the few male performers worldwide and the current state of K-pop soloists, who could do something like this? He truly stands out.

 

 

 

 

 

 

He's so hot

 

 

6 hours ago, thirdward said:

BP's solo is "bunch of demos" but golden isn't?
like we don't have pics of him and scooter shopping for tracks

yall are never #real 

Jungkook's singles are good but his album is bad. I wasn't expecting otherwise thought because back when I was a BTS stan everytime BTS had a comeback and Jungkook said what his favorite bside was it was always the worst of the album

 

40 minutes ago, Gaia said:

I'm sorry but thinking SKZ music is more recognizable to the average kpop fan than aespa music is a wild take

 

I mean look at any random play dance like this recent one in London and compare the SKZ crowds to aespa crowds

 

 

(timestamps are first comment)

The backfire, when SKZ literally have the same amount of people dancing to their songs as aespa in that video you posted?????   

 

Anyways, here's another Random play Dance with way more people in general as well

 

Edited April 17, 20251 yr by Pluto6

 

 

that's all they've known for

 

whack them

 

 

 

Edited April 17, 20251 yr by Odette Violet

38 minutes ago, Pluto6 said:

Not that fanmade YT video. The fact that you're claiming to be a music expert, and actually believe JLo "stole" vocals 

 

 

Stop hiding behind NewJeans and sneaking in aespa as well:

 

SKZ most streamed song:

God's Menu - 421M streams - 247K daily streams

 

aespa's most streamed song:

Drama - 361M streams - 288K daily streams

 

They are literally almost pulling the same daily streams despite God's Menu being released in 2020, while Drama was released in 2023, more than 3 years after. Keep in mind SKZ also has more streams across their entire discography, while people only stream aespa's singles.

 

Billboard Global 200 didn't exist when God's Menu was released. It's funny how you only focused on that specific Chart, since it's the only global chart aespa are doing better than SKZ in, while at the same time you will downplay and ignore Spotify which is a way bigger metric, and the biggest and most relevant streaming platform in the world 

 

Btw God's Menu for example is already certified Gold and is eligible for Platinum in the US. It has also over 500M views which is more than any aespa song

 

By hit, you only mean in Korea right? Cause otherwise no one outside of Kpop spaces know about aespa's "hits" either or most Kpop hits in general just as it is with boy groups that you claim are hitless. Like they are all in the same boat. So aespa having a hit in Korea, does not actually influence what global Kpop fans listen to or not. 

 

I think you are projecting whatever image you have of specific boy groups and generalize way too much. 

 

You were the one always randomly bringing up SKZ and shaded them constantly from all the way back to 2023, let's not rewrite history now. You always had a hate towards boy groups, and it has nothing to do with me or SKZ. If you look at your post history, you will realize that you're the one constantly starting the fanwars in here with me, and constantly brought up SKZ whenever I had a different music opinion. 

 

It's 2025, and SKZ are still #1 across almost every important global metric among 4th gen, give it up Deelishis

 

 

 

Not the Golden Disc Awards coming through randomly to clock you, too, and claim Whiplash, Supernova and Up were bigger global hits than your fave's last title tracks 

Post the J. Lo stems. They literally don't exist and everyone knows this. The artists that sang J. Lo's choruses even called her out. You've destroyed every shred of credibility you've ever had by lying so brazenly about something we've known for 20+ years  

 

Anyway, Flop's Menu - 1B streams across all platforms reporting numbers.

Next Level - 1.3B. You keep trying to just post Spotify because your faves do well there thanks to Stationhead. A shame they're massive FLOPS on YouTube Music, Melon and Genie (and platforms that don't report numbers, like Apple Music).

 

Aespa's B-sides have better streams than SKZ's and they've gotten actual hits from non-singles. Up and Illusion are bigger hits in South Korea than anything SKZ have ever managed and have outstreamed any SKZ B-side globally (and a lot of their title tracks, too).

 

I'm a member of the American GP - I had never even heard of Stray Kids until you were trying to use them to drag Aespa. Do you see how @newaespa owns being a LSF hater? Get some backbone like her and own your trolling instead of pretending like we're dragging your talentless, flop faves just because.

1 hour ago, Odette Violet said:

The gag that it sill sitting in the top 10 of circle chart. 1B next   

 

 

Supernova's #22, queen. Whiplash is the one that's sitting at #6. 
 

Don't worry, though - Supernova now has 200M more digital points than SKZ's career.  

25 minutes ago, Odette Violet said:

 

 

that's all they've known for

 

whack them

 

 

 

The own comments on the article you posted are calling op for basically being a fan...

1 minute ago, JO1s said:

The own comments on the article you posted are calling op for basically being a fan...

well the OP didn't lie

 

sites like pannchoas are infested with self hating pann girls who will ride or die for their oppas

 

Like I would've understand if this people are stanning actual talented BGs with vocalists and good music but it's SKZ....

 

Edited April 17, 20251 yr by Odette Violet

Just now, Odette Violet said:

well the OP didn't lie

 

sites like pannchoas are infested with self hating pann girls who will ride or die for their oppas

 

See... this is where the boy group hate turns into misogyny.

 

Girl group fans will say they're all feminist and ****, but you're the first to **** on women for enjoying boy groups. 

 

It's textbook misogyny to **** on things women enjoy and lift up stuff that has more mass appeal to men...

Just now, JO1s said:

See... this is where the boy group hate turns into misogyny.

 

Girl group fans will say they're all feminist and ****, but you're the first to **** on women for enjoying boy groups. 

 

It's textbook misogyny to **** on things women enjoy and lift up stuff that has more mass appeal to men...

Who are this claiming feminist tho? I sure did not consider myself as one. I drag girl groups the same way as BGs 

Just now, Odette Violet said:

Who are this claiming feminist tho? I sure did not consider myself as one. I drag girl groups the same way as BGs 

You can drag skz for their music and lack of talent but the whole do anything for their oppa is something we should leave in the past... it's not it.

Need a MV for this song immediately*

 

 

*This post is not an endorsement of NCT 

1 minute ago, JO1s said:

You can drag skz for their music and lack of talent but the whole do anything for their oppa is something we should leave in the past... it's not it.

it's true tho. That one bully in that group has still fans and they are overwhelmingly women but you have Irene and Soojin who almost losts their careers  

 

 

BGs have a lot of songs (too many to list, I think) but none are as well-known or liked as SNSD's Gee and Genie. 

 

Source: Nature Briefing | Nature

2 minutes ago, Odette Violet said:

it's true tho. That one bully in that group has still fans and they are overwhelmingly women but you have Irene and Soojin who almost losts their careers  

 

 

Why are you holding him to the standards as a teenager to something Irene did as a 30 year old?

Edited April 17, 20251 yr by JO1s

3 minutes ago, JO1s said:

Why are you holding him to the standards as a teenage to something Irene did as a 30 year old?

teenage or not. they can carry those tendencies into adulthood,  men are capable of doing anything in comparison to women who can only a b**** to a stylists?

 

korean men don't exactly have the nicest reputation outside of the fantasies of their media they're selling  

Edited April 17, 20251 yr by Odette Violet

 

 

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