8 minutes ago, sunny said:

    

 

LOONA being big ... that same chart has Dreamcatcher (which i adore) but lets not act as if they were BIG

i said they were exceptionally big for a girl group from a small company.

Edited April 16, 20251 yr by Windy Day

54 minutes ago, Pluto6 said:

SKZ are way more talented than aespa, wake up 

 

And the only ones people are laughing at, are aespa and their horrible panned performances 

I'm gonna say something might make some people mad. I don't even like skz so I'm not saying I agree 100% with your post but this thread has a habbit of downplaying talent in rapping. Most people here stan ggs that don't have any talent in rapping except looking c*nty then call groups like BTS and Stray Kids talentless when they have actual rappers and the groups they stan don't

1 minute ago, VelvetCrush said:

I'm gonna say something might make some people mad. I don't even like skz so I'm not saying I agree 100% with your post but this thread has a habbit of downplaying talent in rapping. Most people here stan ggs that don't have any talent in rapping except looking c*nty then call groups like BTS and Stray Kids talentless when they have actual rappers and the groups they stan don't

forget rapping, most of their faves can't even hold a pen, let alone produce music from scratch as well

 

SKZ literally has the most talented Kpop idol of all time aka Han Jisung 

6 minutes ago, VelvetCrush said:

I'm gonna say something might make some people mad. I don't even like skz so I'm not saying I agree 100% with your post but this thread has a habbit of downplaying talent in rapping. Most people here stan ggs that don't have any talent in rapping except looking c*nty then call groups like BTS and Stray Kids talentless when they have actual rappers and the groups they stan don't

rap should be banned in kpop. that **** is corny like 95% of the time

 

Red haired guy 

 

6 minutes ago, VelvetCrush said:

 Most people here stan ggs that don't have any talent in rapping except looking c*nty then call groups like BTS and Stray Kids talentless when they have actual rappers and the groups they stan don't

Say it louder... SKZ and BTS may not have very good vocalists, but let's not pretend the vocalists in a lot of new groups this thread praises are anything to write home about. Plus they are leagues ahead in terms of rapping and song writing

1 hour ago, Windy Day said:

loona was extremely popular for a girl group of a small agency back then

 

kcon LA 2019 was famously a loona concert lmao

 

 

 

 

We can literally say it was an ITZY concert too

 

 

47 minutes ago, lgaga1fan said:

I hate BTS but Jungkook proved he can actually PERFORM, sing and dance at the same time which is what should be the standard. We've been accepting substandard performances from these idols for years.

I'm always here for Jungkook praise (even if it's from a BTS hater).

 

A year or two ago, someone tried to use "Jack of all trades, master of none" as an insult for Jungkook in this thread and when I shared clips of him performing Euphoria while flying over Wembley at 21 yo, they were like "What's so impressive about this?" 

 

Being a "jack of all trades, master of none" isn't an insult when it comes to performers. Not everyone can be Beyoncé, and that's fine.

 

But Jungkook is someone with a 12-year career and not a single bad performance to their name. We are talking about performances at the Grammys, Times Square, and FIFA opening ceremony, btw.

 

When you think about the few male performers worldwide and the current state of K-pop soloists, who could do something like this? He truly stands out.

 

 

 

 

 

 

11 minutes ago, Darkling said:

 

Red haired guy 

 

The promotion is badly timed, they should have promoted before Coachella, before getting an  Empty crowd.

10 minutes ago, Xalric said:

We can literally say it was an ITZY concert too

 

 

and loona was the only group who got posted causing mayhem 

 

 

Spoiler

with ateez

 

Edited April 16, 20251 yr by Windy Day

4 minutes ago, Xalric said:

The promotion is badly timed, they should have promoted before Coachella, before getting an  Empty crowd.

i dont think coachella goers gaf about kpop boygroups lbr. unless it's a big group

25 minutes ago, Windy Day said:

i said they were exceptionally big for a girl group from a small company.

 They debuted with one of the most ambitious and expensive K-pop pre-debut projects ever... small company my ass  

yall will praise any group just to drag blackpink

give it up losers!

2 minutes ago, sunny said:

 They debuted with one of the most ambitious and expensive K-pop pre-debut projects ever... small company my ass  

you know that was a lie jaden jeong came up with right?? 

 

BBC was still an unknown company that only had loona and literally closed once loona left 

@Mel. and ha quality posts are being missed daily  

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It was famous that the initial investment cost of LOONA was 9.9 billion won.[15] , it was revealed on his blog that the bluff was done by Jeong Byeong-gi himself.

i can't believe there is still people that believe that lie 

need MEOVV's Hands Up to be a bop like this

5 minutes ago, ItsJustMe. said:

yall will praise any group just to drag blackpink

No one mentioned blackpink, but if the shoe fits.

 

OT:

This best cover of this song by far...

 

the reality is that the cost of loona's entire predebut AND debut was roughly 1 million dollar... which is even cheaper than regular debut cost

7 minutes ago, Windy Day said:

you know that was a lie jaden jeong came up with right?? 

 

BBC was still an unknown company that only had loona and literally closed once loona left 

Gilr we all show the production and marketing money that they were throwing. You cant honestly use the small company card

2 minutes ago, sunny said:

Gilr we all show the production and marketing money that they were throwing. You cant honestly use the small company card

what marketing?? they were barely promoting 

 

the only thing they did was film in different locations and give a solo to each members but it's not that complicated or expensive considering jaden jeong is one of the most famous A&R in korea and he had his own team of producers and produces himself so he does not need to shop around for demos 

Edited April 16, 20251 yr by Windy Day

4 minutes ago, Windy Day said:

the reality is that the cost of loona's entire predebut AND debut was roughly 1 million dollar... which is even cheaper than regular debut cost

I mean fact still remains BBC had some serious money management issues

Loona made aproxmentally $12 million from album sales if we average their album sales at $20/album another 10-15 million from touring, a million or so from streaming and however much per event they did.

 

Yet the company couldn't pay the girls at all in 5 years.

im not kidding i think the most promo i've seen for loona was random banners in itaewon 

 

it got to a point where fans were complaining because loona weren't appearing anywhere