10 minutes ago, smates said:

It's alright as long as we get your streams  

jk, I think a lot of people would agree that their music from 2014 to 2020 is really good (they even end up in a lot of antis' Spotify Wrapped, lol). But if the fandom is too much, there's no shame in not stanning a group 

The Armys in here are very chill though, which I have pointed out many times before. But Armys in general, I just can't with them and how they constantly harass every fandom.
This is the same reason I left the MY fandom and stopped stanning aespa, though I'm still a Giselle akgae

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The way Gutter was my most streamed Kpop song of 2021 btw 

 

Edited April 16, 20251 yr by Pluto6

12 minutes ago, Pluto6 said:

I run KTRL, so this thread applies to my rules. If you don't like it, you're welcome to leave 

Just wait for 2027. My SNSD History facts will return

43 minutes ago, Pluto6 said:

This noise excellence and future bg classic 

 

 

 

Remember when Enhypen tried their little SKZ cosplay in the same year @Darkling

 

I know it's an unpopular opinion but I've grown into liking Pass the MIC, especially after seeing it live.

 

 

I still prefer their dark and  vampire songs tho. This entire album was a masterpiece.

 

 

 

Edited April 16, 20251 yr by Darkling

So people can spam groups like NCT especially irrelevant ass NCT WISH or whatever, but Stray Global is where y'all draw the line, yeah okay

 

 

i will never forgive teddy and co for this

 

2 minutes ago, Pluto6 said:

So people can spam groups like NCT especially irrelevant ass NCT WISH or whatever, but Stray Global is where y'all draw the line, yeah okay

 

 

well i dislike all bgs equally so it's nothing personal sis

4 minutes ago, Darkling said:

I know it's an unpopular opinion but I've grown into liking Pass the MIC, especially after seeing it live.

 

 

I still prefer their dark and romantic vampire songs tho.

 

 

Definitely unpopular

Speaking of Somi, remember when she said last year that Ice Cream was sort of a pre-release single and she's got many more songs planned to be released?

 

Ready for them to serve talent, acclaim, beauty and success a.k.a TABS (again)!

 

11 minutes ago, Gorjesspazze9 said:

Just wait for 2027. My SNSD History facts will return

Don't you get tired of looping the same SNSD songs for years, and not getting new material? Who do you even stan outside of SNSD? 

2 minutes ago, illia said:

Speaking of Somi, remember when she said last year that Ice Cream was sort of a pre-release single and she's got many more songs planned to be released?

 

teddy took a page from sm's book

after ic flopped into oblivion he decided to debut meovv so people would forget it ever happened

I feel like such a 2011 anime nerd watching fan made YouTube edits of Naruto vs Sasuke, whenever I'm listening to this   @Darkling

 

13 minutes ago, Pluto6 said:

Don't you get tired of looping the same SNSD songs for years, and not getting new material? Who do you even stan outside of SNSD? 

What do you mean, I'm a big Kpop fan and always been multi-fandom. SNSD is just my Forever #1! 
 

im just not into hardcore stan life with as many groups nowadays. Last big group I stan heavy outside of SM was Black Pink. Last concert I went to outside of Kcon and stuff was Hyuna. I don't really stan any 4th gen groups outside of SM. but I like New Jeans and IVE the most of the new girlies. My favorite boy group of all time is SHINee, but outside of SM it be Beast or BTS. Aespa is the only group I still consistently buy albums or Merch when I can. I just mostly listen to 3rd gen and 2nd gen music on my playlists. Spotify tries to add these new groups, but I just feel like it ain't for me. 

Edited April 16, 20251 yr by Gorjesspazze9

2 hours ago, Pluto6 said:

Just so you know, NewJeans barely has b-sides in their discography and have released 13 singles from their album releases

1. Attention
2. Hype Boy
3. Cookie
4. Ditto
5. OMG
6. New jeans
7. Super Shy
8. ETA
9. Cool With you
10. Bubble Gum
11. How Sweet
12. Right Now
13. Supernatural

 

aespa has 14 official singles

1. Black Mamba
2. Forever
3. Next level
4. Savage
5. Dreams Come True
6. Life's Too Short
7. Girls
8. Spicy
9. Better Things
10. Drama
11. Supernova
12. Armageddon
13. Hot mess
14. Whiplash

 

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Stray Kids are 7 years into their career and are still outstreaming and moving more units than every other 4th gen act, destroying every 4th gen act in touring right now, showing they haven't even peaked yet. This speaks to their incredible longevity, especially since many 4th gen groups have already hit their peak, with the exceptions being SKZ, aespa, and LE SSERAFIM. At the rate things are going, SKZ will only continue to widen the gap in overall career numbers year after year, whether it's in streams, sales, gross etc.

Anyways I will let SKZ achievements continue to speak for itself in the future. 

 

Come before me, when your faves can pull this globally, then we can start having discussions

 

Meanwhile, in the real world, both Aespa and NJZ have outsold and outstreamed SKZ at the same point in their careers by a significant amount. Aespa's also a bigger touring act at the same point in their careers. Good for SKZ for doing well now, but they still can't even launch a hit as big as Whiplash or How Sweet, let alone anything on the level of Drama, Next Level, OMG, Ditto, etc.

Do me a favor and tag me when SKZ get their first single to 10 weeks on the Global 200. They're 37 singles in and 7 & 1/2 years into their careers (not 7 years - 7 & 1/2) and have yet to do what NewJeans and Aespa have done multiple time.

1 hour ago, Pluto6 said:

 

The way Jungkook literally did an early 00's JLo, and had demo background vocals overpower him during the chorus in Seven

 

Girl, J. Lo didn't even record the vocals for her choruses. The stems literally don't exist for most of her early songs.

39 minutes ago, Pluto6 said:

 

I was close to join the Ratmy fandom back in 2020 when I just got into Kpop 

We can tell.

 

14 minutes ago, Eternium said:

Meanwhile, in the real world, both Aespa and NJZ have outsold and outstreamed SKZ at the same point in their careers by a significant amount. Aespa's also a bigger touring act at the same point in their careers. Good for SKZ for doing well now, but they still can't even launch a hit as big as Whiplash or How Sweet, let alone anything on the level of Drama, Next Level, OMG, Ditto, etc.

Do me a favor and tag me when SKZ get their first single to 10 weeks on the Global 200. They're 37 singles in and 7 & 1/2 years into their careers (not 7 years - 7 & 1/2) and have yet to do what NewJeans and Aespa have done multiple time.

Girl, J. Lo didn't even record the vocals for her choruses. The stems literally don't exist for most of her early songs.

We can tell.

 

SKZ are still #1 in streaming, sales, touring etc. by a very huge gap which are 3 of the most important metrics in the music industry. So far, SKZ are LEADING in most global metrics as the 4th gen LEADERS they are.

Quote me when your faves surpasses them officially in those metrics, then we can start having discussions. 

Edited April 16, 20251 yr by Pluto6

8 minutes ago, Gorjesspazze9 said:

What do you mean, I'm a big Kpop fan and always been multi-fandom. SNSD is just my Forever #1! 
 

im just not into hardcore stan life with as many groups nowadays. Last big group I stan heavy outside of SM was Black Pink. Last concert I went to outside of Kcon and stuff was Hyuna. I don't really stan any 4th gen groups outside of SM. but I like New Jeans and IVE the most of the new girlies. My favorite boy group of all time is SHINee, but outside of SM it be Beast or BTS. Aespa is the only group I still consistently buy albums or Merch when I can. I just mostly listen to 3rd gen and 2nd gen music on my playlists. Spotify tries to add these new groups, but I just feel like it ain't for me. 

Wait, not you showing variety 

 

Edited April 16, 20251 yr by Pluto6

8 minutes ago, Eternium said:

Girl, J. Lo didn't even record the vocals for her choruses. The stems literally don't exist for most of her early songs.

We can tell.

 

The only song where she didn't sing the chorus at all was Play. Otherwise she was singing in every chorus but with heavy background vocals 

I keep com back to this song, there's just something in it

I have the feeling a lot of gg stans live in their gg stan bubble and can't see further. To be honest I don't know if aespa is bigger than SKZ in korean metrics, but besides Next Level and Supernova, I think the average k-pop stan would recognize at least God's Menu and MANIAC before Whiplash, Drama and How Sweet. At least globally, those two seemed more impacful than the others. And again, I'm not talking about metrics but more of a general knowledge.

 

 

3 minutes ago, Darkling said:

I have the feeling a lot of gg stans live in their gg stan bubble and can't see further. To be honest I don't know if aespa is bigger than SKZ in korean metrics, but besides Next Level and Supernova, I think the average k-pop stan would recognize at least God's Menu and MANIAC before Whiplash, Drama and How Sweet. At least globally, those two seemed more impacful than the others. And again, I'm not talking about metrics but more of a general knowledge.

 

 

End those rats for me

22 minutes ago, Pluto6 said:

Wait, not you showing variety 

 

what variety? she just admited she is an SMpig

 

sorry @Gorjesspazze9 let me stream some SM excellence for you

 

 

SKZ may be bad singers and have noisy music, but to deny their success so much like this thread loves to do is delusional.

Look at the engagement of that little crowd  I bet this is @Cheers

 

 

13 minutes ago, JO1s said:

SKZ may be bad singers and have noisy music, but to deny their success so much like this thread loves to do is delusional.

Saying SKZ are bad singers is not true, yeah the group overall are more known for their rap and performance driven music, but they are definitely stronger vocally than other 4th gen groups like TXT, ENHYPEN,  ITZY, LE SSERAFIM, NewJeans etc.,  with 6/8 members all being decent singers at least. 

 

 

Edited April 16, 20251 yr by Pluto6

If nct are such an irrelevant act, why that user cant keep them out of his mouth? He comes for them every single day.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited April 16, 20251 yr by DelRey