1 hour ago, Eternium said:

Age of Career:

1. Stray Kids - 2,723 days

2. Aespa - 1,611 days

3. NewJeans - 999 days

 

Monthly Listeners on Spotify: 

1. NewJeans - 12.8M
2. Stray Kids - 10.5M 
3. Aespa - 10.1M 

 

Digital Points:

1. NewJeans - Just under 9B

2. Aespa - 6.5B

3. Stray Kids - Under 500M

 

Number of Comebacks:

1. Stray Kids - 18

2. Aespa - 8

3. NewJeans - 5

Most Streamed Song:

1. NJZ - OMG - 1.9B

2. Aespa - Next Level - 1.3B

3. Stray Kids - God's Menu - 1B

 

Average Streams Per Track on Spotify:

1. NJZ - 152.9M

2. Aespa - 46.1M

3. Stray Kids - 33.81M

 

Best Global Charting:

1. NewJeans

2. Aespa

3. Stray Kids

 

Aespa and NJZ are pulling streams outside of Spotify. SKZ are a Stationhead act and can't pull streams on Apple Music or other platforms. It's why ChartMasters' tool doesn't work in this scenario - they are heavily fanbase driven. SKZ have literally had two comebacks and a Japanese album since Aespa's/NJZ's last comeback and they somehow have less monthly listeners than NJZ and just barely more than Aespa. When mass streaming is filtered out (Circle is the only chart that does that), SKZ's streams are miniscule. It shows us that SKZ has a very dedicated base who will stream their music, but the public are not listening in a way that they listen to Aespa and NJZ. 
 

You are literally pulling a "what if" scenario right now. You're assuming that NJZ and Aespa are going to stop their careers today. SKZ have enlistment in two years and NJZ isn't even halfway through their original contract while Aespa is just barely over halfway and has more album sales and streams and higher tour grosses than SKZ at the same point in their career.

 

Just so you know, NewJeans barely has b-sides in their discography and have released 13 singles from their album releases

1. Attention
2. Hype Boy
3. Cookie
4. Ditto
5. OMG
6. New jeans
7. Super Shy
8. ETA
9. Cool With you
10. Bubble Gum
11. How Sweet
12. Right Now
13. Supernatural

 

aespa has 14 official singles

1. Black Mamba
2. Forever
3. Next level
4. Savage
5. Dreams Come True
6. Life's Too Short
7. Girls
8. Spicy
9. Better Things
10. Drama
11. Supernova
12. Armageddon
13. Hot mess
14. Whiplash

 

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Stray Kids are 7 years into their career and are still outstreaming and moving more units than every other 4th gen act, destroying every 4th gen act in touring right now, showing they haven't even peaked yet. This speaks to their incredible longevity, especially since many 4th gen groups have already hit their peak, with the exceptions being SKZ, aespa, and LE SSERAFIM. At the rate things are going, SKZ will only continue to widen the gap in overall career numbers year after year, whether it's in streams, sales, gross etc.

Anyways I will let SKZ achievements continue to speak for itself in the future. 

 

Come before me, when your faves can pull this globally, then we can start having discussions

 

Edited April 16, 20251 yr by Pluto6

 

 

 

rEmeMbER mE...?

 

 

TWICE - Foro Sol, Mexico

 

Stray Kids - Foro Sol, Mexico

 

JYP really won I fear 

 

Edited April 16, 20251 yr by Pluto6

8 minutes ago, Zack said:

rEmeMbER mE...?

 

 

4walls and maybe red light i might use from time to time but honestly f(x) are my least favorite GG in kpop.

 

 

The fact that Yunjin has even less lines in Kepler songs that she did when she was in clc  

 

 

BP's solo is "bunch of demos" but golden isn't?
like we don't have pics of him and scooter shopping for tracks

yall are never #real 

5 minutes ago, thirdward said:

BP's solo is "bunch of demos" but golden isn't?
like we don't have pics of him and scooter shopping for tracks

yall are never #real 

There was actual intention in making an album w Golden. It was well curated and he performed tf out of those songs. A record can consist of writers camp demos and still be a good album. That camp wasn't just taking 4 year old RAYE demos and Tove Lo's scraps and having Lisa record a single pass through on it.

13 minutes ago, thirdward said:

BP's solo is "bunch of demos" but golden isn't?
like we don't have pics of him and scooter shopping for tracks

yall are never #real 

 

The way Jungkook literally did an early 00's JLo, and had demo background vocals overpower him during the chorus in Seven

 

Edited April 16, 20251 yr by Pluto6

9 minutes ago, thirdward said:

BP's solo is "bunch of demos" but golden isn't?
like we don't have pics of him and scooter shopping for tracks

yall are never #real 

I haven't listened to BP solo albums, so I'm not sure about the bunch of demos part. 

 

However, I'm tired of this silly argument about Golden. He has always been unapologetically pop. Jungkook who sang Seven in 2023 isn't any different than Jungkook who sang Euphoria and covered "We Don't Talk Anymore" in 2018. "Shopping for tracks" isn't a big deal when the songs are good, the artist can actually sing and perform them (unlike some others, which is what I was talking about), and when they already have a lot of writing credits to their name in the first place. 

Just now, smates said:

I haven't listened to BP solo albums, so I'm not sure about the bunch of demos part. 

You are missing out on a lot, just saying 

Now which one if you is working for pannchoa

 

 

Edited April 16, 20251 yr by Darkling

Thank you JenLisa for releasing some of the best Kpop songs of all time 

 

5 minutes ago, Darkling said:

Now which one if you is working for pannchoa

 

 

The comments are eating OP up though:

 

1. I like it though 

2. The fact that you know so many songs shows that you're probably already a fan no?

3. It's just for fun 

4. You're going to join the fandom soon 

5. So you're already a fan. The songs are fun right? ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

6. Welcome to the fandom ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

7. I feel like you've already joined the fandom

8. It's freaking charming 

9. I find it entertaining 

10. Their songs are perfect for working out

 

 

Every time there's 1 SKZ hater, there's 10 new fans

Edited April 16, 20251 yr by Pluto6

This noise excellence and future bg classic 

 

 

 

Remember when Enhypen tried their little SKZ cosplay in the same year @Darkling

 

Edited April 16, 20251 yr by Pluto6

9 minutes ago, Pluto6 said:

Thank you JenLisa for releasing some of the best Kpop songs of all time 

 

Jennie YES

 

Lisa **** no

Just now, sunny said:

Jennie YES

 

Lisa **** no

New Woman is literally one of the best songs of all time

9 minutes ago, Pluto6 said:

New Woman is literally one of the best songs of all time

Sometimes I feel like people do too much coming for SKZ all the time in this thread but... you said this + called Jisung the most talented idol and compared JK to JLo all within an hour. I can't  (He is very talented but imagine him performing Standing Next to You, please).  

 

Let's stick to comparing Aespa and SKZ, maybe. I agree with you that SKZ is bigger than Aespa, so we're good.

Edited April 16, 20251 yr by smates

Anyways, the biggest K-Pop soloist is coming back to us in 2 months. If BTS won't have a comeback until 2026, I hope he does something before the group cb and show people how it's done 

 

15 minutes ago, smates said:

Sometimes I feel like people do too much coming for SKZ all the time in this thread but... you said this + called Jisung the most talented idol and compared JK to JLo all within an hour. I can't  (He is very talented but imagine him performing Standing Next o You, please).  

 

Let's stick to comparing Aespa and SKZ, maybe. I agree with you that SKZ is bigger than Aespa, so we're good.

I can be very unpredictable and full of surprises 

 

Btw, BTS are my most listened to bg after SKZ 

I was close to join the Ratmy fandom back in 2020 when I just got into Kpop, but it was too toxic 

 

 

Edited April 16, 20251 yr by Pluto6

I swear every single page lately that has anything related to Stray Kids is about their tour stats.

Like, come up with something new or don't post.

You can always create a thread for their tour or them. idk.

 

2 minutes ago, Rainy Devil said:

I swear every single page lately that has anything related to Stray Kids is about their tour stats.

Like, come up with something new or don't post.

You can always create a thread for their tour or them. idk.

 

I run KTRL, so this thread applies to my rules. If you don't like it, you're welcome to leave 

5 minutes ago, Pluto6 said:

I can be very unpredictable and full of surprises 

 

Btw, BTS are my most listened to bg after SKZ 

I was close to join the Ratmy fandom back then, but it was too toxic 

 

 

It's alright as long as we get your streams  

jk, I think a lot of people would agree that their music from 2014 to 2020 is really good (they even end up in a lot of antis' Spotify Wrapped, lol). But if the fandom is too much, there's no shame in not stanning a group 

stray kids and bts... yeah we need aespa to drop soty aka dirty work already