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Pop stars who have spent only 1 week at #1. Surprised?
Didn't your fave literally just get a "hit" with IKI,IKY by using the fraudulent country Pandora and Amazon streaming playlists? And can you post her Spotify streams pre- and post- Republic's involvement? The call is coming from inside the house, babe. Doesn't Billie Eilish have the most commercially successful first ten years since Britney herself?
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K-pop Thread: ILLIT comeback on the way
Idk if you all have seen videos, but it was such a weird experience. She literally looked stunning and was killing the dancing and the moves, but then you'd look in her face and it was clear she was about to pass out. I think the fans sometimes take for granted just how amazing and hardworking our idols are. Like look at my sweet baby trying her best for us: NMIXX actually did well and all American dates officially sold out. Box scores have stopped counting restricted views and late release tickets against artists, which is a good thing. With 10/24 shows reported, NMIXX have a 100% sellout rate and $4.348M grossed. It's disappointing to see their album sales dwindle, but their touring is booming and JYP is going to squander that. I wouldn't even bother worrying about them. All boy groups start off as forgettable and then they get some kind of fanbase in the third year. They have a much easier time than girl groups.
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K-pop Thread: ILLIT comeback on the way
Just want to let you know that she was beautiful tonight and so friendly. She signed my album
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K-pop Thread: ILLIT comeback on the way
I think he's just using them to re-establish connections. I expect the girl group will do mediocre physicals but the boys will start being profitable in the next two years. And when it's time, LSM will start a Korean chapter and use it to launch his real groups. Just your daily reminder that I was there (and Sunny waved to me) Actually, girl group touring is on the rise!
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K-pop Thread: ILLIT comeback on the way
People always use kids as a fan demographic as some kind of drag but that's good for longevity. I know so many people that have stanned their faves since childhood. I'm glad you had a good time Hopefully you told Chaewon that we need more ad-libs from her, please!
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K-pop Thread: ILLIT comeback on the way
I think he just sees the Chinese company and A20 as a step ladder to help him get back into K-Pop. He's going to make his rotation groups he's always dreamed of and then dip, I'm guessing.
- Is Karol G's prime time over?
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K-pop Thread: ILLIT comeback on the way
He's produced plenty of relevant groups. ITZY were huge and NMIXX had a solid fanbase AND started scoring hits. You're missing JYP's real problem - he keeps fumbling his groups and hurting them in the long run. Just like every major record label head.
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Which songs are in the KPOP canon?
Gee Genie The Boys Into The New World Mirotic Tell Me Abracadabra As If It's Your Last Ddu-du Ddu-du How You Like That Red Flavor Psycho Bad Boy Like Ooh-Ahh Cheer Up Next Level Supernova Drama Whiplash Love Dive I AM After LIKE Hype Boy Attention Super Shy Mr. Etc. It's a 30+ year old genre at this point and there are tons of recognizable smash hits.
- TLOASTE (D9, 16 tracks) gets outstreamed by YSPSFAGSIL (D114, 13 tracks), why?
- Who's your fave in Soulidified?
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A year has passed, TLOAS failed to double its opening week. What happened?
- Beyonce's inorganic/fraudulent #1s exposed. Surprised?
Anything that was a hit on radio or coming from a major label had huge payola support for radio play. Crazy In Love was the same way, but that was also the standard of the time and needed to make a song a hit. I'll be the first to criticize payola-driven radio hits from the 2000s when they're compared to songs from artists that didn't have payola, but honestly, you can't compare to other hits from that period unless you have payola. My problem is that they almost get to an intellectual thought about charts and stats, but instead of analyzing it, they just resort to cheap shade to try and tear down another female artist. Like if you want to talk about payola in the 2000s, do it. But it could have been way more in-depth than "don't pay attention to my fave - look at this artist, instead." There was very clearly cultural dominance from all of these Beyonce songs and all three of them are remembered by the audience today. Meanwhile, the songs he's trying to claim as more organic aren't even popular today. Like wtf is Boston? And he's shading Crazy In Love, Beyoncรฉ's signature hit, to say it's comparable to Patient Zero, a song not even in Taylor's top 20 biggest hits- Why didn't Madonna have the longevity of Taylor?
What ATRL misses in context here is that the industry went from measuring commercial success to impressions made and then converts those impressions to 2013 dollars. Each album equivalent is just $10 in 2013 money. In 2026, the industry is currently using all consumption and then converting them into album equivalents on the notion that an album would have generated that amount of money if it had been released in 2013. For example, an 8x Platinum album in 2026 means that the album would have grossed $80M in 2013. A 6x Platinum album in 2026 means it would have grossed $60M in 2013. A Platinum album means it would have grossed $10M in 2013. ATRL cannot seem to wrap its head around the fact that Billboard is not a leader in this methodology - they were 15 years late to it and now their methodology is almost 15 years outdated, too. They are incredibly lazy and refuse to do simple math. Notably, as we all know, most artists make their music through touring instead of music. Billboard, RIAA, etc. purposefully inflate the ratios for SEAs to make albums look significantly larger and more successful than they are. If you were to take a Madonna album and convert its money grossed, for example, The Immaculate Collection at 28.1M copies, it sold for $15 on average. That would have been a gross of $421.5M in 1991 dollars. If we use album equivalents set to 1991 standards, that's 42.15x Platinum. But using Billboard's and RIAA's standards and setting to to 2013's economy, that's $720.94M dollars or 72.094x Platinum. There's a huge conversation to be had about album equivalents, but ATRL is not intellectual enough to do it.- Most-streamed female songs released in 2026. Any Surprises?
Girl, he makes worse music than literally anyone here Lemonade by aespa Spotify - 109,570,609 (1 track only) YouTube Music - 200M I can give you Melon, Genie and Spotify streams across all versions, too KATSEYE's label pays for streams and album sales. They got outted a few times in court cases. - Beyonce's inorganic/fraudulent #1s exposed. Surprised?