16 minutes ago, Jenlisa said:

 

 

……This is incredibly frustrating and disgusting. I wish that this tea would have come out 10 years and we could have done something to protect Sulli (and Hara, and so many more) then.

15 minutes ago, Pluto6 said:

Since you wanted to be messy earlier, let me remind you that SKZ outdebuted aespa's Whiplash album with an unpromoted MIXTAPE with also less songs 

 

Actually, it also outdebuted every aespa project apart from Armageddon, since Armegeddon is a studio album 

 

On one platform, yet Whiplash still outstreamed it on YouTube Music, Melon, Genie, Apple Music, etc. and pulled a higher debut despite less playlisting and promoted tracks. And the real kii? SKZ haven't had a title track that have outstreamed Whiplash since its release, just like they haven't had a comeback outstream Armageddon since its release.

10 minutes ago, Pluto6 said:

You are just saying anything 

It charted for 72 weeks. No SKZ has ever charted for 40 weeks. All that Stationhead time wasted.

9 minutes ago, Pluto6 said:

Even if SKZ were to enlist in a few years, aespa still wont be able to surpass SKZ in either sales, streams and tour gross or even followers 

Aespa already ahead of SKZ in sales, streams AND tour gross at the same point in their careers. The people chose talent.

Did I just see a tweet saying that King Seungmin and Lee Knowles's song was the most listened song from the new SKZ album on Melon, and the song by the wax figure & parasocial creeper was dead last????

 

oh how the turntables

 

 

They sampled Ma Boy and made it an okay city pop song...

13 hours ago, Windy Day said:

korean pop music industry needs to change asap if it wants to be taken more seriously on the global stage and more importantly survive

 

stop treating artists like slaves, stop the constant fansigns, the video calls, the extremely parasocial relationships, debuting extremely underage kids... all of this is cringe and corny and has became way too important compared to the music

 

fans who consume all of this **** are just as guilty as the companies imo

yes to all of this

 

there was a time a few years back when it seemed like kpop was actually heading to a direction where the genre would grow and evolve to survive and rival the us pop market, at least when it comes to the quality of its pop music and concepts... but instead it's been slowing down and I know these companies are wondering what's happening when it's all their fault lol 

 

the absurd beauty standards, the lack of concern over their idols overall health, the career ending "scandals" for **** that happened when they were kids, the pressure to be perfect and not show any kind of personality whatsoever, limited artistic input or incentive, robotic live performances without live vocals, no spontaneity... like wow, how shocking that they are unable to break into the us market or anywhere else where these things are seem as cruel and inhumane. 

 

now that the US have new pop girls shining again with good music, talent and personality, and the old superstars like Taylor, Beyoncé and Gaga are still going strong, there's no way it's gonna thrive again, unlike the times when pop was kinda dead and rappers were stomping on everyone else and kpop was a good option for those missing some fun pop music with choreo and nice videos.

 

anyways, all of this to say that this NJZ thing was actually a good way to change kpop for the better and start a new chapter, maybe repeaking again at some point this decade, but it's clear that the thing the Korean music industry cares most about is having control over kids and not let them any kind of rights so they can do whatever they want with them behind closed doors.

 

it's sad, but they will pay for it in the long run. 

 

 

32 minutes ago, Eternium said:

On one platform, yet Whiplash still outstreamed it on YouTube Music, Melon, Genie, Apple Music, etc. and pulled a higher debut despite less playlisting and promoted tracks. And the real kii? SKZ haven't had a title track that have outstreamed Whiplash since its release, just like they haven't had a comeback outstream Armageddon since its release.

SKZ albums always outstreams aespa albums, sweetie. Armageddon (album) literally has less  daily streams than SKZ's mini album "ATE"

 

32 minutes ago, Eternium said:

It charted for 72 weeks. No SKZ has ever charted for 40 weeks. All that Stationhead time wasted.

You said global charts lol, which we know isn't the case with Oh My Girl

 

Anyways were is Oh My Girl now? If you actually believe that Oh My Girl has a bigger career than SKZ, I will directly put you on ignore and never respond to you ever again 

 

32 minutes ago, Eternium said:

Aespa already ahead of SKZ in sales, streams AND tour gross at the same point in their careers. The people chose talent.

Even if they were to be ahead  at the same point in their careers (which is not true at all) aespa will never be able to touch the career units and profits, gross etc. SKZ has achieved from 2022-present 

Edited March 22, 20251 yr by Pluto6

the long ass essay lmaooo  sorry but this topic annoys me so much 

 

don't forget to stream this masterpiece 

 

https://youtu.be/n-KlygYrXV8?si=B00HVPpD-aFooKcs

 

Edited March 22, 20251 yr by hindsight

why is the embed so shitty kdjfkd

 

if its true and "just" a cameo or supporting role this will be a great opportunity for her 
 

 

KIOF becoming our resident 2nd gen cover queens, do Sistar next 

 

The AI 

 

 

56 minutes ago, starstruckaj said:

KIOF becoming our resident 2nd gen cover queens, do Sistar next 

Already done ! We need a Miss A cover next 

 

(Around 12:00) 

Not only is "Seven" Jungkook's first solo music video to hit the 500 million mark, but it has also become the first solo debut music video by a male K-pop soloist ever to reach the milestone. Jungkook first released the music video for "Seven" on July 14, 2023 at 1 p.m. KST, meaning that it took just over one year, eight months, and seven days to reach 500 million views.

 

 

 

 

WTF?

 

 

According to Biz Hankook, there was an attempt to illegally seize HYBE stocks worth approximately 8.44 billion KRW (~ 5.7 million USD) owned by BTS member Jungkook.

The perpetrator took advantage of Jungkook;s military service, transferring 33,500 shares of HYBE stock to a new account and selling 500 of them to a third party. The incident occurred on January 6, 2024, while Jungkook was undergoing basic military training after enlisting. The perpetrator allegedly opened three unauthorized securities accounts under Jungkook's name, using them to transfer and sell stocks without his consent.

In total, 33,500 shares of HYBE stock were moved without Jungkook's knowledge. The perpetrator transferred 33,000 shares (valued at 8.316 billion KRW based on the closing price on January 5) to a new securities account under Jungkook's name and sold 500 shares (worth approximately 126 million KRW) to a third party.

In March 2024, Jungkook filed a civil lawsuit against the third party who purchased the 500 shares, demanding their return. In February 2025, the Seoul Western District Court ruled that "there was no valid stock transfer contract, and Jungkook was clearly a victim of identity theft," ordering the third party to return the stocks. The third party argued that they had acquired the shares in good faith (a legal principle protecting buyers who unknowingly purchase stolen goods), but the court rejected this claim. The court ruled that the third party had been negligent for proceeding with the transaction without verifying the stockholder's identity, despite being told the shares belonged to a major shareholder.

At the time, the third party had sent 20,000 USDT in advance to purchase the 500 shares. They initially appealed the ruling but withdrew their appeal in March 2025, making the decision final. However, the real perpetrator who hijacked Jungkook's accounts has yet to be identified. Given that the perpetrator had access to Jungkook's financial accounts, ID, and banking passwords, there is speculation that someone close to him may have been involved. A securities company official commented, "It appears that the perpetrator had full knowledge of Jungkook's financial information. There were also attempts to transfer cash, not just stocks."

Jungkook's agency, BigHit Music, is aware of the situation and is taking action. They stated, " As soon as the company and the artist became aware of this crime, we took immediate measures, including freezing the affected accounts and restoring the original ownership to prevent further damage. In addition to legal action, we have also strengthened security measures related to the artist's personal and device information to prevent recurrence. "

 

 

 

What a shameless man

 

 

3 hours ago, Sheegs said:

 

They sampled Ma Boy and made it an okay city pop song...

The intro catfished me. I immediately prepared myself for S-I-S-T-A-R, SISTAR, baby stop breaking my heartttt.

 

but got that gg lolita bullshite instead. I hope SISTAR sue 

2 hours ago, FBF said:

 

are y'all actually gagging for this. if this was released by le sserafim i feel like this thread would be panning it

Edited March 22, 20251 yr by lgaga1fan

5 minutes ago, lgaga1fan said:

are y'all actually gagging for this. if this was released by le sserafim i feel like this thread would be panning it

Yes because sadly I don't think anyone sees Chaewon or Yunjin carrying the pre-chorus or background vocals like Lily Carey and Haewon Houston do

 

Plus Kyujin/Jiwoo's 'rap' lines are barely tolerable tbh, anyone else would absolutely make it worse. 

1 minute ago, starstruckaj said:

Yes because sadly I don't think anyone sees Chaewon or Yunjin carrying the pre-chorus or background vocals like Lily Carey and Haewon Houston do

 

Plus Kyujin/Jiwoo's 'rap' lines are barely tolerable tbh, anyone else would absolutely make it worse. 

It's still years outdated trap pop music with boring melodies. JYP is creatively bankrupt and no amount of good vocal harmonization will save this from being more than a basic trap pop song that coulda come out any year since 2018. NMIXX always look like theyre wearing other people's clothes like a theater troupe that has no actual artistic identity. It's getting soooo boring. Roller Coaster and Party O Clock were EASILY the best singles they've ever dropped and they actually suited the songs they were singing. No amount of interesting artistic direction, bold video ideas, or attempts at artful choreography will elevate a song like this. 

It's always so funny to me when westerners obsess over Asian art and Asian artists and then start trying to pretend that reception and popularity in countries where some of this stuff is mainstream doesn't matter. Racism against east Asians specifically is so normalized that some of you legitimately believe that a qq music stream is intrinsically less meaningful than one on Spotify. It's funny because this is the exact same mindset that keeps locals from tuning in to any of our favs. 

Edited March 22, 20251 yr by Ubermensch

3 hours ago, Pluto6 said:

 

SKZ albums always outstreams aespa albums, sweetie. Armageddon (album) literally has less  daily streams than SKZ's mini album "ATE"

 

You said global charts lol, which we know isn't the case with Oh My Girl

 

Anyways were is Oh My Girl now? If you actually believe that Oh My Girl has a bigger career than SKZ, I will directly put you on ignore and never respond to you ever again 

 

Even if they were to be ahead  at the same point in their careers (which is not true at all) aespa will never be able to touch the career units and profits, gross etc. SKZ has achieved from 2022-present 

you made a whole separate thread to drag anyone who didn't agree with you on this and now you're STILL going on about it here

 

3 minutes ago, lgaga1fan said:

It's still years outdated trap pop music with boring melodies. JYP is creatively bankrupt and no amount of good vocal harmonization will save this from being more than a basic trap pop song that coulda come out any year since 2018. NMIXX always look like theyre wearing other people's clothes like a theater troupe that has no actual artistic identity. It's getting soooo boring. Roller Coaster and Party O Clock were EASILY the best singles they've ever dropped and they actually suited the songs they were singing. No amount of interesting artistic direction, bold video ideas, or attempts at artful choreography will elevate a song like this. 

They kinda peaked with their debut actually 

4 minutes ago, Ubermensch said:

It's always so funny to me when westerners obsess over Asian art and Asian artists and then start trying to pretend that reception and popularity in countries where some of this stuff is mainstream doesn't matter. Racism against east Asians specifically is so normalized that some of you legitimately believe that a qq music stream is intrinsically less meaningful than one on Spotify. It's funny because this is the exact same mindset that keeps locals from tuning in to any of our favs. 

charting at #96 on the hot 100 for a week is apparently more important that a top 3 smash with longevity in your home country

 

1 minute ago, K$Ellie said:

you made a whole separate thread to drag anyone who didn't agree with you on this and now you're STILL going on about it here

 

It's because nobody on ATRL outside of this thread had ever heard of Stray Kids, like we've been telling him and that caused meltdowns. This is also the single way anybody pays attention to his SKZ posts, by attaching them to groups we actually care about. 

1 minute ago, K$Ellie said:

you made a whole separate thread to drag anyone who didn't agree with you on this and now you're STILL going on about it here

 

Girl, look who started the conversation first in here, so stfu