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Beyoncé

This is part 1 of the Beyoncé discussion.

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3 minutes ago, Beyle Street said:

The closest I'll compare this to Happier Than Ever so the breakdown of it is;

153k pure (73k vinyls, 46k CDs, 10k cassette, 24k digital)
84k streams (113M on-demand streams) 

=  238k total units 

From what I can remember, Billie did pretty meh (for her standards) on Spotify and AM (5 songs in top 10 on Spotify but none of them reached top 3 and with AM, I think she only had like 3 in the top 10 but none reached top 2). HTE's first day US Spotify numbers was 12.4M and its overall streams for the tracking week were 60M. 16 tracks just like Renaissance. But keep in mind; Billie had already released 5 singles prior (My Future, Therefore I Am, Your Power, Lost Cause, NDA) that overall didn't do well before the GP decided they liked HTE the best

 

12,474,996-Day 1

22,153,544- Day 2

30,116,864- Day 3

38,836,002- Day 4

46,780,071 - Day 5

54,064,588 - Day 6

60,107,314- Day 7

 

Really interesting insights. 

This tallies with the lower end of what I'm expecting and, like you said, Bey benefits from us having not heard anything other than BMS. Plus likely holding the video until album drop (see now why that was smart, folks?!).

 

Based on your Billie example, she will need to drop some more covers, boxes, and formats (cassette?) to further pad her physicals. Fully expecting this in the coming days. They are (presumably) spreading it out.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Cbreezy said:

Really interesting insights. 

This tallies with the lower end of what I'm expecting and, like you said, Bey benefits from us having not heard anything other than BMS. Plus likely holding the video until album drop (see now why that was smart, folks?!).

 

Based on your Billie example, she will need to drop some more covers, boxes, and formats (cassette?) to further pad her physicals. Fully expecting this in the coming days. They are (presumably) spreading it out.

 

 

Bey should do better on AM since that's where her core base lies and considering what we saw with Summer (I should do a breakdown of hers as well and she smashed on AM but did okay on Spotify) doing 166k with 12k pure, Bey should debut somewhere in the middle of that. That's why I've been predicting 220k since the start

2 minutes ago, Beyle Street said:

Bey should do better on AM since that's where her core base lies and considering what we saw with Summer (I should do a breakdown of hers as well and she smashed on AM but did okay on Spotify) doing 166k with 12k pure, Bey should debut somewhere in the middle of that. That's why I've been predicting 220k since the start

Interesting!

Do you think with the video on day of release it would bump up the numbers considerably?

3 minutes ago, Cbreezy said:

Interesting!

Do you think with the video on day of release it would bump up the numbers considerably?

It should give a bit of a boost, especially if the video is a massive serve. Billie released HTE video while all the other tracks were just audio which is what I'm assuming (hoping) Bey does on YT. YT doesn't count as much as it used to but it's still something. 

2 hours ago, ShouldersSideways said:

i've been bopping to this since i found out bey is sampling it

 

 

i hadn't heard it in years 

Wait which track? I must've missed the discussion :duca: 

4 minutes ago, Quiqui4eva said:

Wait which track? I must've missed the discussion :duca: 

Cuff It and Energy both do

 

(there's also the possibility she sampled another teena marie track but I think its this one)

I don't think we know how bey will sell in this climate. 

I'm not chart hive so don't put too much into it beyond wishing for the best!

My (on the lower end cuz I prefer to keep expectations low) estimate is 250k and I think that'll be nice! 

While the pre-orders and physicals help and she did well with Lemonade, I think anything beyond totally depends on the release itself. ST and Lemongod did extremely well (in limited tracking) because they made huge news. The releases were events and had the news and pop culture by the throat. The surprise release had everyone shook and lemonade with its premier and jay cheating stuff just exploded. And then the quality carried word of excellence and the queen being the QUEEN. 

She has the name to do similar stuff but the final success will come down to how the release will be. (I still believe there is a surprise in store - didn't they tease us with the Vogue article?)

Anyway it doesn't matter. We are getting B7 in 5 days and so the real winners are the Beyhive. The way she always delivers quality and gives every project her all and loves studying and honing her craft. Thank you god for giving me the talent to know to stan bey. 

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55 minutes ago, Beyle Street said:

The closest I'll compare this to Happier Than Ever so the breakdown of it is;

153k pure (73k vinyls, 46k CDs, 10k cassette, 24k digital)
84k streams (113M on-demand streams) 

=  238k total units 

From what I can remember, Billie did pretty meh (for her standards) on Spotify and AM (5 songs in top 10 on Spotify but none of them reached top 3 and with AM, I think she only had like 3 in the top 10 but none reached top 2). HTE's first day US Spotify numbers was 12.4M and its overall streams for the tracking week were 60M. 16 tracks just like Renaissance. But keep in mind; Billie had already released 5 singles prior (My Future, Therefore I Am, Your Power, Lost Cause, NDA) that overall didn't do well before the GP decided they liked HTE the best

 

12,474,996-Day 1

22,153,544- Day 2

30,116,864- Day 3

38,836,002- Day 4

46,780,071 - Day 5

54,064,588 - Day 6

60,107,314- Day 7

 

You think Bey’s streams will be that low? 

Can someone update me on everything that’s happened in the last week? Don’t feel like reading back. What’s the tone in here? Everyone happy and satisfied now? 
 

Last thing I saw was the track list reveal along with all the writers and producers leak.

 

And also, for those who’ve been clowning on Yvette for liking that rollout tweet, are we interpreting “rollout” to be pre album release rollout? Cause I honestly have the feeling that they’re gonna take their time with this era and there’s a lot left in store for us. 

nothing else ever seems to hurt 
like the smile on your face
when it's only in my memory
it don't hit me quite the same
maybe it's a cause for concern

 

mariah-carey-crying.gif

 

I don't think she can ever top PYCM.

Beyoncé Giselle Mina Salinger Desmond Knowles-Carter isn’t doing half a mil. I’ll eat crow if she does.

51 minutes ago, Beyle Street said:

Bey should do better on AM since that's where her core base lies and considering what we saw with Summer (I should do a breakdown of hers as well and she smashed on AM but did okay on Spotify) doing 166k with 12k pure, Bey should debut somewhere in the middle of that. That's why I've been predicting 220k since the start

Beyonce will do a lot better on Spotify as opposed to summer and I think she’ll do similar to summer on AM. It should also be

noted that BMS did better on Spotify US than AM US in the first 24 hours. 

 

1 hour ago, Beyle Street said:

The closest I'll compare this to Happier Than Ever so the breakdown of it is;

153k pure (73k vinyls, 46k CDs, 10k cassette, 24k digital)
84k streams (113M on-demand streams) 

=  238k total units 

From what I can remember, Billie did pretty meh (for her standards) on Spotify and AM (5 songs in top 10 on Spotify but none of them reached top 3 and with AM, I think she only had like 3 in the top 10 but none reached top 2). HTE's first day US Spotify numbers was 12.4M and its overall streams for the tracking week were 60M. 16 tracks just like Renaissance. But keep in mind; Billie had already released 5 singles prior (My Future, Therefore I Am, Your Power, Lost Cause, NDA) that overall didn't do well before the GP decided they liked HTE the best

 

12,474,996-Day 1

22,153,544- Day 2

30,116,864- Day 3

38,836,002- Day 4

46,780,071 - Day 5

54,064,588 - Day 6

60,107,314- Day 7

 

Interesting. I think these sales are pretty good considering the climate. The overall narrative going around was that she underperformed. Her album is also doing pretty well on billboard 200, still top 50. Longevity is what truly matters at the end of the day and I hope that will be true for renaissance. 

I also heard about the label’s reaction to Aquarius Superstar. If it’s as good as they say, I wonder if she should release it like two days before the album release to get that hype and for people to want to tune in for the rest of the album.

We know there were 30k limited edition vinyls. Those are sold out. Lets conservatively estimate each pose had 10k. Those are sold out.

 

She's already done 70k

3 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said:

We know there were 30k limited edition vinyls. Those are sold out. Lets conservatively estimate each pose had 10k. Those are sold out.

 

She's already done 70k

That’s worldwide though. 

Is she even releasing it on cassette? I’m surprised she isn’t doing any exclusives with target or the usual stores. 

47 minutes ago, Shelter said:

You think Bey’s streams will be that low? 

On Spotify? It should be a bit better than that since Billie's hype had sputtered after the rejection of her singles because think about it; if the GP didn't care for My Future, Your Power, Lost Cause or NDA after the first week (with music videos I might add) why would they continue to stream them after the first day album release? Bey is lucky to only have released BMS so her other songs will have genuine interest and the GP will decide which they gravitate towards the most. She'll do better on AM than Billie did as well. 

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she’s going 666K the illuminati will come through for their queen

 

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Edited by Blue Rose

I think she’ll clear 200k first week easy. But in my heart she deserves 500k+

If every person she has ever wished a happy birthday on her website buys a copy, she’ll do 1M at least 

 

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13 minutes ago, Beyle Street said:

On Spotify? It should be a bit better than that since Billie's hype had sputtered after the rejection of her singles because think about it; if the GP didn't care for My Future, Your Power, Lost Cause or NDA after the first week (with music videos I might add) why would they continue to stream them after the first day album release? Bey is lucky to only have released BMS so her other songs will have genuine interest and the GP will decide which they gravitate towards the most. She'll do better on AM than Billie did as well. 

True.
 

I’m expecting a lot better than a bit better though lol. 

7 minutes ago, Blue Rose said:

If every person she has ever wished a happy birthday on her website buys a copy, she’ll do 1M at least 

 

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