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Beyoncé

This is part 1 of the Beyoncé discussion.

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Eh I don't really care about the movie one way or another as long as the visuals come first. it'll be a slap in the face if they don't

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I don't have another "the gift" era in me omggggg. I'm so happy for Blue tho!! Apparently lin manuel is producing the soundtrack so maybe we'll get music just from that but you never know with bey tbh

 

I don't care for Disney live action remakes so I definitely won't be watching

2 hours ago, EricSean said:

At least now Disney and Blue will have her trotting along that promo trail. 

No it won't, where were you during the press tour? She did not do the promo tour with the team.

 

 

 

 

37 minutes ago, yonsé said:

It was a poor execution and interpretation of the lion king story. It dragged it parts and glossed over others. The writing was not its strong suit, the visuals were. It was in dire need of dialogue. The poems did not work. Many people in here said this when it premiered. It hinders its rewatchability

I can find ways to improve it but think that it did a good job doing the story in its own way. That it dragged out some parts of the original story or glossed over others seems fine considering it's its own thing, a visual representation of music that was an audio interpretation of the film. Asking that it have the same focuses as the original story seems like an unfair assessment when it's not trying to be a literal interpretation of it at all.

 

As mentioned, I think specifically what they achieved with the "mother" character at the beginning who comes back at the end to have her story revealed is beautiful and special, and something that absolutely does not appear in the The Lion King story whatsoever. It's these added elements that shifts the story to Beyoncé's gaze and her use of the story.

 

Black is King was able to achieve a lot at once, I think. It spoke about, honoured and celebrated the immense beautify of African culture, it told the story of the Lion King in its own way by expanding on the theme of the circle of life and used it as a philosophical reference point to give us a story that was not linear but circular and even hard to understand. And I think that's part of its genius. It's layered use of past, present, future as well as traditional storytelling and added elements can be confusing and overstimulating, but I think that's part of the intention.

 

imo it's her greatest visual album.

 

 

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4 hours ago, tachiwaka said:

and the real gag is that if you're calling Kacey for a collab, you could have called T Swizzle instead. let's talk about that for a page or two because the girls are not that different.

 

:ryan3:

yet among her 11 studio albums not a single one that can hold a candle to Golden Hour

 

yes Kacey makes vanilla music but it's prime vanilla bean honey. songwriting, melodies, lyricism, VOICE

 

:clack:

This can't be worse than the first movie where half of the hate was because people wanted to stick it to Disney. Some were saying they wanted an original story, so here we are.

This is going to be a Lion King Christmas with a billion dollars gross

Lets focus on the real fun things: 2 Most Wanted still isn't moving up on the charts :suburban:

This is not a big deal for us, at all. Most of us won't probably watch the Lion King in theaters. Yesterday we had no Cowboy Carter promo, and today the fact remains. What's the problem? 
:ryan3:

4 hours ago, tachiwaka said:

and the real gag is that if you're calling Kacey for a collab, you could have called T Swizzle instead. let's talk about that for a page or two because the girls are not that different.

 

:ryan3:

This might be the worst post I've ever seen on atrl 

1 minute ago, satellites.™ said:

Beyoncé's 'Black Is King' attracts less than 4% of Disney+ users on debut weekend.

https://finance.yahoo.com/video/beyonc-black-king-attracts-less-185639775.html

 

 

 

And?

a lot of you are clearly chart hive and don't want to admit it, but Beyoncé is about to add to her already bonkers box office grosses... you should be happy about that.

3 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

Lets focus on the real fun things: 2 Most Wanted still isn't moving up on the charts :suburban:

Bad callouts, too 

2 minutes ago, Blue Rose said:

This can't be worse than the first movie where half of the hate was because people wanted to stick it to Disney. Some were saying they wanted an original story, so here we are.

This is going to be a Lion King Christmas with a billion dollars gross

This!

 

Again, context is everything. But a lot of people take a black and white approach to these things. 

 

It's either, everyone is fuming (with little consideration as to "why") so __insert movie/show/album___ must be "bad" OR "everyone is raving so it must be amazing". 

 

Like you said, this new film stands to arrive in a much more welcoming climate on the merit of being an original story. 

 

I always felt the "return" to The Lion King story should have come via a prequel first. Just in terms of being more compelling and Bey having more flexibility in terms of her creative contribution. But I see how Disney's hands were probably tied. You can't return to a story without reminding a whole new generation of said story. The reboot was the foundation from which everything else can sping from moving forward. We all critique a lot of these companies, but sometimes on occasion it's kinda clear to see the strategy playing out.

Just now, Space&Time said:

This is not a big deal for us, at all. Most of us won't probably watch the Lion King in theaters. Yesterday we had no Cowboy Carter promo, and today the fact remains. What's the problem? 
:ryan3:

In 2022 we had no Renaissance Promo, and today have no Cowboy Carter promo.

 

In 2022 we had no Renaissance visual, and today have no Cowboy Carter visual.

 

In 2022 Renaissance was left to die, and today Cowboy Carter has been left to die.

 

In 2022 it was clear Giselle gave two f#~s about streaming numbers, and today it is clear that Giselle gives two f#~s about streaming numbers.

 

Wake it up.

 

:ryan3:

7 minutes ago, Blue Rose said:

This can't be worse than the first movie where half of the hate was because people wanted to stick it to Disney. Some were saying they wanted an original story, so here we are.

This is going to be a Lion King Christmas with a billion dollars gross

The Lion King made so much money because the original movie was beloved and there weren't many live action remakes. People do NOT like the live action remakes now, the little mermaid couldnt even get $600 million.

 

I don't see this movie making more than the little mermaid unless it is REALLY good. 

Ilyah and Labirinth?? Oh we are definitely getting Spirit 2.0. I hope she serves easy vocals this time 

3 minutes ago, Lose My Breath said:

Bad callouts, too 

Its so funny how incapable Parkwood/Beyonce is to react to trends. They are always 3-4 weeks too late. I know they are fuming at how fast-paced the world has become. Slow hags 

TBH, I just want her to re-release The Gift Deluxe Edition w/ 3 new tracks, 2 bonus tracks ("Shadowlands" cover, "Grown Woman"), and finally release it on CD/Vinyls. :alexz:

 

Project gets to 1B streams, we might get another Top 10 B200 debut week, it brings eyes back to Black Is King, and the project gets some well-needed physical sales as it has aged very well musically.

the worst thing about this is the fact we're forced to ask ourselves for at least the next year if act III will be another afrobeats album:suburban:

Just now, trainsskyscrapers said:

TBH, I just want her to re-release The Gift Deluxe Edition w/ 3 new tracks, 2 bonus tracks ("Shadowlands" cover, "Grown Woman"), and finally release it on CD/Vinyls. :alexz:

 

Project gets to 1B streams, we might get another Top 10 B200 debut week, it brings eyes back to Black Is King, and the project gets some well-needed physical sales as it has aged very well musically.

the cds and vinyls will actually be the physicals of The Gift she forgot to send to target and won't feature any of the new tracks. Genius!

 

:suburban:

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