Bey hopping on the most creatively bankrupt project ever to highlight just how inspired and fantastic Cowboy Carter was... her MIND

 

 

Spoiler

I hate it here.

 

24 minutes ago, Brikenbur said:

i hate this era and no one's going to see Mustinky or stream any Beyoncé songs related to it 

 

You're not going to stream any Beyoncé songs related to it?  I swear I'll never be as miserable as you lot.

55 minutes ago, QueenB said:

Mufasa trailer having 41k dislikes vs 45k likes

 

do you just wake up angry and bitter? girl

I'm glad Bey is acting again. Her voiceovers from Black Is King to Cecred have been flawless. 

16 minutes ago, Lovett said:

You're not going to stream any Beyoncé songs related to it?  I swear I'll never be as miserable as you lot.

enjoy it! 

18 minutes ago, Lovett said:

You're not going to stream any Beyoncé songs related to it?  I swear I'll never be as miserable as you lot.

My God...extremely miserable and insufferable 

I will NEVER understand whats so hard to make fan favorites and clear standouts of albums single.

Yes, im looking at you my beloved Heated, Bodyguard, Alien Superstar, Hold Up, Mine.. ugh

and hopefully an orginal song for the Oscars 
 

 

Just now, Queenyoncee said:

and hopefully an orginal song for the Oscars 
 

 

Thats such a stupid metric to add to Beyonce when its not Bey whos the reason for the gross. Shes literally mostly cited as the reason people dont like it

2 hours ago, kimberly said:

I watched it again, but had to watch it in parts because it's kind of... boring?

 

as beautifully shot and edited these music videos are, there is no real reason for anyone to sit down and watch an hour+ of them in a row.

my biggest fear is enduring years of waiting for the visuals only for people to end up saying the same thing about them 

Just now, Kristie Kuwa said:

Thats such a stupid metric to add to Beyonce when its not Bey whos the reason for the gross. Shes literally mostly cited as the reason people dont like it

still part of her total gross 

2 hours ago, QueenB said:

anyways how is 2 most wanted doing, surely the visualizer boosted streams?

well it's doing about as bad as the rest of the album 

I'm always excited for new music

 

 

8 minutes ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

my biggest fear is enduring years of waiting for the visuals only for people to end up saying the same thing about them 

Thats literally the whole problem about her approach of "a Queen moves at her own pace". No my dear, people do move on, people do neglect and people do not wait for THEE visuals like that. Investing so much time and resources for what ultimately most will perceive as unnecessary by the time its out is just... stupid

 

+ lets face it: the collaborators who worked so hard can only be bitter to see what couldve been their moment being treated like that. Trust and believe I would be fuming if I were them

Edited April 29, 20242 yr by Kristie Kuwa

7 minutes ago, Queenyoncee said:

and hopefully an orginal song for the Oscars 
 

 

They need to delete this set up. This movie isn't grossing over $1 billion in a post-covid cinema world. 

The lion king had massive hype since it's a beloved classic, this will gross $500-$600 million

Lin and Beyoncé? We Don't Talk About Scar is coming. 

 

 

Shame she didn't collab on A Bar Song. 

not What Was Mufasa Made For 

 

Just now, Shelter said:

Shame she didn't collab on A Bar Song. 

Maybe her Remix era is coming back 

Shaboozey's album is out on May 31 and tracklist is not yet out, maybe I'm clowning but I'm gonna keep my fingers crossed that Bey is on there.

3 hours ago, yonsé said:

she is rafiki. its not that crazy or avant-garde lol...she watches over simba through the whole movie just like rafiki, who is played by a woman in the broadway show.

 

that information doesn't change that the story is VERY well known (it is Hamlet, after all), so doing an interpretation of it is going to bring about criticism if it isn't executed properly. and it wasn't. im not afraid to say that. i love the find your way back and my power videos. it has some of her best visual work ever. but it isn't her best visual album as a whole.

 

i would quickly watch lemonade before black is king. it feels more cinematic and less like a collage of shots. and that's not to say black is king didn't do some things right. it is visually a bonanza. the styling was amazing. Zerina did her big one. but it does not hold together as a singular product. i skip in between to the music videos when i watch it. i don't care to listen to her poems, wheras in Lemonade, the poems HEIGHTEN the impact of the songs. that just does not happen here. 

That's not what I meant at all and that's not how I interpreted it. And I don't think Beyoncé is revealed to be Rafiki.

 

 

I'm talking about the connections between BIGGER, OTHERSIDE and SPIRIT that reveal the mother figure in the white tattered dress from the beginning of the film is actually a spirit.

 

In BIGGER we see her on the beach at what looks like a sort of baptism/ritual. We also see her alone, sort of wandering, but also with a child, not a baby. When you see it from the start, it feels like she's simply guiding him through life as his mother, but in Otherside we see a woman with the same hairstyle (in a film with MANY hairstyles this seems like an important distinction) place her baby in a basket on the river in order to attempt to save him, knowing the fate she'll have, hoping to see him again on the "otherside", which we then see happens later when an adult man ascends and we next see a woman in a glorious white dress receive a baby in a basket floating on peaceful water. This implies a connection between these two scenes, as this mother is receiving her child in the afterlife as she last left him.

 

Then a few songs later in Spirit see the woman in the tattered white dress standing next to Simba and Nala as he raises his child as she looks on proudly. This being the very the last moment of the film, it clearly has significance. Bringing back this woman in the exact same outfit seems to say she's one of the many ancestors watching Simba. There is also another moment in the film where Beyoncé plays a parental figure who dies, so the fact that it's THIS version of her that appears there is significant. It's not what how she appears in NILE, it's the woman from BIGGER.

On top of that the act of her putting the baby on the river being a probable Moses reference implies the baby goes onto be a King, as well, which ties into the larger story that Black is King...that there is kingship in Blackness itself, and/or would suggest that this is how Simba's family got to be kings in the first place.

This is not at all in the play from what I can remember, and certainly not in the film and isn't anything like what Rafiki did for Simba. Overall it adds a layered storyline which I find quite compelling. It took my second viewing to really catch on and notice all the symbols and call-backs, but it seems pretty clear.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited April 29, 20242 yr by swissman

36 minutes ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

my biggest fear is enduring years of waiting for the visuals only for people to end up saying the same thing about them 

this is why i truly believe this one will be more of an actual film with dialogue and the music acting more as a soundtrack. i think the attention span for that many videos isnt gonna work, and that is why i think we didnt get whatever renaissance film was finished in 2022.

24 minutes ago, Queenyoncee said:

not What Was Mufasa Made For 

 

They could've said Otherside, but these new fan pages don't listen to Bey  

12 minutes ago, swissman said:

That's not what I meant at all and that's not how I interpreted it. And I don't think Beyoncé is revealed to be Rafiki.

 

 

I'm talking about the connections between BIGGER, OTHERSIDE and SPIRIT that reveal the mother figure in the white tattered dress from the beginning of the film is actually a spirit.

 

In BIGGER we see her on the beach at what looks like a sort of baptism/ritual. We also see her alone, sort of wandering, but also with a child, not a baby. When you see it from the start, it feels like she's simply guiding him through life as his mother, but in Otherside we see a woman with the same hairstyle (in a film with MANY hairstyles this seems like an important distinction) place her baby in a basket on the river in order to attempt to save him, knowing the fate she'll have, hoping to see him again on the "otherside", which we then see happens later when an adult man ascends and we next see a woman in a glorious white dress receive a baby in a basket floating on peaceful water. This implies a connection between these two scenes, as this mother is receiving her child in the afterlife as she last left him.

 

Then a few songs later in Spirit see the woman in the tattered white dress standing next to Simba and Nala as he raises his child as she looks on proudly. This being the very the last moment of the film, it clearly has significance. Bringing back this woman in the exact same outfit seems to say she's one of the many ancestors watching Simba. There is also another moment in the film where Beyoncé plays a parental figure who dies, so the fact that it's THIS version of her that appears there is significant. It's not what how she appears in NILE, it's the woman from BIGGER.

On top of that the act of her putting the baby on the river being a probable Moses reference implies the baby goes onto be a King, as well, which ties into the larger story that Black is King...that there is kingship in Blackness itself, and/or would suggest that this is how Simba's family got to be kings in the first place.

This is not at all in the play from what I can remember, and certainly not in the film and isn't anything like what Rafiki did for Simba. Overall it adds a layered storyline which I find quite compelling. It took my second viewing to really catch on and notice all the symbols and call-backs, but it seems pretty clear.

 

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKGIw-L1-WY

 

 

the baby is simba. and the boy she is walking with is also simba. there is a break in the song at 2:11 during BIGGER before it cuts to the kid simba. he is the same character. that is literally just time progressing. in the lion king this happens between circle of life and the cut after the title card. it jumps ahead to simba being a child from a baby. she continues to watch over him as a guardian angel. that is rafiki's job as a spiritual mystic. the 'OTHERSIDE' part is her character's backstory. we find out she had a baby at one point and he died. we also figure out that rafiki can bounce between the human and non-human realms, and we know rafiki is able to do this in The Lion King as well, its just not executed the same way. i think you are conflating its inability to properly get the story across with deeper meaning that isn't really there. it just goes to show how muddled it really is as a film. too many ideas. but i digress.

Edited April 29, 20242 yr by yonsé