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Beyoncé

This is part 1 of the Beyoncé discussion.

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Just now, Mistah.Beyonce said:

Here we go, he is HUGE, already 30k likes. Great exposure 

 

 

Daddy Westbrook coming through!:smitten2:

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1 minute ago, ShouldersSideways said:

I'm starting to wonder if the lighter vocal days are permanently over. 

Going from 2016 -> 2018 was her biggest change vocally after the twins. Even more so than 2011 -> 2013. Her tone in 2013 was my absolute fave, I can’t believe people used to complain how light and shrill her voice was.  It was honestly her peak. I know her head voice is still intact and belts stronger than ever. I just need her to stylistically stop those growls, I’m tired Giselle. :smiley: Shes intent on making songs into chants and anthems that she forgot about gorgeous pop melodies. 

11 minutes ago, Keith said:

Where is the actual video for this song? I can’t find it anywhere.

i duno i thought i was posting it actually lol but here it is!

 

Beyoncé looks so good in it! Peak 2003 soft and summer dewy Bey.

 

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9 minutes ago, Bey Admired said:

I love Perfect duet but her vocals on it don’t do her justice.

 

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Black Parade is a 5/10

 

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Be Alive is a 6/10

 

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BILG is a 10/10


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Be Alive ranked higher than Black Parade?!!

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And Black Parade is a 10

 

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and what the hell is BILG?

 

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I’m old hive y’all (32 lol). Not used to all these acronyms yet. ever since bwb shut down I haven’t been on forums. Anyone know what happened there btw? Can’t help but think that played a big part in her eras not being as successful.

 

8 minutes ago, Starshine said:

The silence about the vinyls, boxes, music video, etc. isn’t really giving what they thought it would give. :rip: 

 

Who’s idea was it to communicate through Instagram bios and still having a blank pfp? :rip: It’s kinda gimmicky.

Yea I was thinking this too. I can imagine Bey and the team thinking people would be all excited about the vinyls etc. like on the edge of our seats but really we’re annoyed and  frustrated and confused :deadbanana2:

 

and I bought the vinyl btw but I think they may have overestimated how much that would tie us over until the next drop

3 minutes ago, Starshine said:

Going from 2016 -> 2018 was her biggest change vocally after the twins. Even more so than 2011 -> 2013. Her tone in 2013 was my absolute fave, I can’t believe people used to complain how light and shrill her voice was.  It was honestly her peak. I know her head voice is still intact and belts stronger than ever. I just need her to stylistically stop those growls, I’m tired Giselle. :smiley: Shes intent on making songs into chants and anthems that she forgot about gorgeous pop melodies. 

well the introductory "la la la la la la la" on BREAK MY SOUL is pretty gorgeous and soft. We also hear it on Moon River (which she should have released!!!).

 

 

 

 

 

The only Bey songs since Lemonade that I haven’t gotten into are Perfect Duet and Walk On Water. 
 

everything else has been a serve to me

1 minute ago, Crimson18 said:

 

 

Yea I was thinking this too. I can imagine Bey and the team thinking people would be all excited about the vinyls etc. like on the edge of our seats but really we’re annoyed and  frustrated and confused :deadbanana2:

 

and I bought the vinyl btw but I think they may have overestimated how much that would tie us over until the next drop

Their plan: get fans hyped checking her Instagram bio everyday, hype gets her trending. Shadow dropping causes hype.

 

Reality: Only fans are checking for the bio, hype lasts a day, hype is artificial and gets tiring after a week. No transparency with the GP or fans. GP unaware of vinyls and boxes.

1 minute ago, FLAallday said:

The only Bey songs since Lemonade that I haven’t gotten into are Perfect Duet and Walk On Water. 
 

everything else has been a serve to me

Walk On Water pisses me off to this day and I do blame Jay for that one. Sure, she could've said no but he told Rick Rubin she would do it and at that point what is she gonna say? :toofunny3: Like, the fact Eminem is still using the r-word on a song in 2018 says everything. 

1 minute ago, FLAallday said:

The only Bey songs since Lemonade that I haven’t gotten into are Perfect Duet and Walk On Water. 
 

everything else has been a serve to me

Oh that was the other one!! Forgot about that mess. Whew! Although walk on water is slightly more tolerable than perfect duet. Just boring and so disappointing from two giants like Bey and Eminem.

2 minutes ago, Starshine said:

Their plan: get fans hyped checking her Instagram bio everyday, hype gets her trending. Shadow dropping causes hype.

 

Reality: Only fans are checking for the bio, hype lasts a day, hype is artificial and gets tiring after a week. No transparency with the GP or fans. GP unaware of vinyls and boxes.

Exactly! Smh

2 minutes ago, Starshine said:

Their plan: get fans hyped checking her Instagram bio everyday, hype gets her trending. Shadow dropping causes hype.

 

Reality: Only fans are checking for the bio, hype lasts a day, hype is artificial and gets tiring after a week. No transparency with the GP or fans. GP unaware of vinyls and boxes.

Well if THAT aint the TRUTH 

40 minutes ago, Bey Admired said:

 

BILG is a 10/10


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BILG is one of the best thing she's ever done

 

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When act ii is a cover album i'll live

 

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4 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said:

Walk On Water pisses me off to this day and I do blame Jay for that one. Sure, she could've said no but he told Rick Rubin she would do it and at that point what is she gonna say? :toofunny3: Like, the fact Eminem is still using the r-word on a song in 2018 says everything. 

ew ya i listened to it recently (duno why? must've been in a playlist) and noticed that word (I must have blocked it out of my mind) and was pretty upset he'd use it and that Beyoncé was on the song... I hoping she just came and sang the hook and wasn't knowledgeable about his verses?

Well without knowing anything and just guessing:

 

 

I'd imagine there are more GP-oriented promotions coming, and that if for the FANS 6-weeks notice for an album seems like too long, that the GP attention span isn't going to last if she immediately did outright big promo at the start and made them wait? I duno maybe it would just make the album sell more for longer? but I can see the value in activating your fans first, letting that bolster your buzz and then really get to the GP who maybe heard about your new music but not have more than just a pre-order and a release date to consume and become engaged with.

 

Like if she promoted her mystery boxes on IG, what really would it serve? If you didn't already hear about it, you're probably not big enough of a fan to buy something you can't see yet.

 

The single has been only for just 1 week now. It's early yet.

LeToya Luckett (Destiny’s Child) also used the song in an Instagram Reel. It warms my heart that they still support each other. 
 

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13 minutes ago, swissman said:

Well without knowing anything and just guessing:

 

 

I'd imagine there are more GP-oriented promotions coming, and that if for the FANS 6-weeks notice for an album seems like too long, that the GP attention span isn't going to last if she immediately did outright big promo at the start and made them wait? I duno maybe it would just make the album sell more for longer? but I can see the value in activating your fans first, letting that bolster your buzz and then really get to the GP who maybe heard about your new music but not have more than just a pre-order and a release date to consume and become engaged with.

 

Like if she promoted her mystery boxes on IG, what really would it serve? If you didn't already hear about it, you're probably not big enough of a fan to buy something you can't see yet.

 

The single has been only for just 1 week now. It's early yet.

There are so many interesting ways to keep engagement up without doing too much or her having to maneuver millions of things. I know you're trying to make sense of it, but there is none other than being extra and still havent figured out how to act as a musician in the streaming era. They still go oldschool and Prince on us as consumers and that **** wont work. Ain't nobody got time for that.

2 minutes ago, *-ChriZ-* said:

There are so many interesting ways to keep engagement up without doing too much or her having to maneuver millions of things. I know you're trying to make sense of it, but there is none other than being extra and still havent figured out how to act as a musician in the streaming era. They still go oldschool and Prince on us as consumers and that **** wont work. Ain't nobody got time for that.

I guess what I mean is it's just been 2 weeks since the album was announced, and 1 since the single came out and there's 4 weeks still till the album release.

 

In this age, you don't actually need a long promo rollout because people can act within a second, that's why the surprises worked when they did. I just think that though she could be doing more, as long as she eventually does, I don't think its such an issue. Like, she could be more teasing, could pique people's interests more at this point, but it's also still Beyoncé and we know she likes to be consolidated with her efforts, less seems to be more in her books.

 

I would hope though that she drops the video in the next week or so, or at least promotoes it so that the song can build by release. That being said, her not releasing the video yet certainly is building more hype for it in the pop sphere than if she had intro-ed the song with it, or even dropped it on last Friday.

 

so it was Lizzo who was the Carpool Karaoke guest, huh?

 

The way he described the guest didn't sound like Beyoncé anyway, I feel like if it was, he'd have said a different thing.

 

BUT I am strangely disappointed it's not Bey even if I'd be annoyed if she was lol, you know? I just want to SEE her.

 

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Just now, swissman said:

so it was Lizzo who was the Carpool Karaoke guest, huh?

 

The way he described the guest didn't sound like Beyoncé anyway, I feel like if it was, he'd have said a different thing.

 

BUT I am strangely disappointed it's not Bey even if I'd be annoyed if she was lol, you know? I just want to SEE her.

 

Carpool Karaoke is a dead promo spot. I want her to do Hot Ones. All A-Listers are doing it, it has great, consistent views and engagement, the interviewer is super prepared and asks great questions, and on top of that it'd would be so much fun seeing Bey do sth as challenging as that. Her competitive side would definitely come through and we all adore that about her.

The meltdowns, the yvette threats, the repeated demanding of a video, the self convincing that bms is just a buzz single, the black parade slander.

 

Mental institution, ALL of you

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OT: where is the video

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17 minutes ago, swissman said:

well american hive are you streaming it?!

Ye

5 minutes ago, *-ChriZ-* said:

Carpool Karaoke is a dead promo spot. I want her to do Hot Ones. All A-Listers are doing it, it has great, consistent views and engagement, the interviewer is super prepared and asks great questions, and on top of that it'd would be so much fun seeing Bey do sth as challenging as that. Her competitive side would definitely come through and we all adore that about her.

Ya I agree I don't actually want her to do Carpool Karaoke but the thought of getting her in any form was enticing.

 

Hot Ones FOR SURE is suited for her I MEAN one of her most iconic lines of the 2010s being about hot sauce?!

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