Slowly convinced myself the tour is coming 2024.

 

38 minutes ago, IlluminatiFreak said:

Madonna is announcing her tour next week. I think Bey will announce right before or after the Grammys to be honest. The later seems more likely. 

 

3 minutes ago, Devin said:

Slowly convinced myself the tour is coming 2024.

 

Every day I think about making “Boycott Beyoncé” signs. 
 

Doubt she will announce anything until March. She likes to make us wait. 
 

Act II was the Saint Supply Olive Oil.

Act III is an upcoming Ivy Park drop.

 

The Renaissance era is over. 

 

 

Edited January 9, 20233 yr by Mr. Specialist

Act 2 should be called "Shove it Right into My Ass, Giselle"

 

26 minutes ago, Mr. Specialist said:

Every day I think about making “Boycott Beyoncé” signs. 
 

Start making them but lets wait til tax season. This puta knows her fans get huge tax returns.

 

1 hour ago, Otter said:

Honestly The Gift was an ill conceived and poorly executed project (this doesn't mean the music is bad)

The branding and spirit is at complete odds with The Lion King. The reason why Black Panther soundtrack worked so well is because how in tune it was with the film, conceptually, thematically, sonically. It feels like they were more or less made in tandem. Even looking at TG as a concept album ("inspired by), she should of gone all in with The Lion King references and built it from the ground up as a audio theatrical experience. Instead it felt like she took the regular MPG album making approach of grabbing song submissions on specific concepts and stitching them together at the end... Then they realised it doesn't resemble the Lion King or feel cohesive at all and decided to add the film interludes between every song to make it clear its connected.  

If this was a graded art college project it would be a C, it's clearly torn between what it wants to be. She wanted to make an afrobeats album, she wanted to write about black empowerment and speak to the Diaspora, but she also wanted that Disney money and to be attached the iconic Lion King legacy. What does Brown Skin Girl have to do with The Lion King???



 

Nah. 

 

The music was top tier, the collaborations were expertly curated (the best in Afrobeats), and in the grand scheme of all the soundtrack songs we've seen come and go, Spirit is effortlessly better. 

 

Not saying you're specifically doing this, but I really wish stans in general wouldn't let a project's commercial performance inform their take on the music on it. Because IMO, it's the exact reason a lot of the gworls try tf out of 4. I understand how the "it didn't sell, so must be bad" concept may seem logical on the surface, but it's just not the case. 

 

The fact so few fans aren't divided on any of Bey's "successful albums" (apart from maybe IASF) proves that there's a problematic "success / acclaim=quality" practice at play.

I’m ready for ACT II.

 

Hopefully we get the 1st single on February 5th and the album in mid March.

2 hours ago, Flanders said:

Not “Enlightenment”  sounds like a title out of the Gaga songbook. I doubt Beyoncé would go for such a pretentious title

Mmh... Renaissance?

1 hour ago, Otter said:

Honestly The Gift was an ill conceived and poorly executed project (this doesn't mean the music is bad)

The branding and spirit is at complete odds with The Lion King. The reason why Black Panther soundtrack worked so well is because how in tune it was with the film, conceptually, thematically, sonically. It feels like they were more or less made in tandem. Even looking at TG as a concept album ("inspired by), she should of gone all in with The Lion King references and built it from the ground up as a audio theatrical experience. Instead it felt like she took the regular MPG album making approach of grabbing song submissions on specific concepts and stitching them together at the end... Then they realised it doesn't resemble the Lion King or feel cohesive at all and decided to add the film interludes between every song to make it clear its connected.  

If this was a graded art college project it would be a C, it's clearly torn between what it wants to be. She wanted to make an afrobeats album, she wanted to write about black empowerment and speak to the Diaspora, but she also wanted that Disney money and to be attached the iconic Lion King legacy. What does Brown Skin Girl have to do with The Lion King???



 

I duno the only poorly executed aspect of the project was its rollout imo.

 

The allusions to the original story and the original musical themes were clear (BIGGER serves as a clear version of Circle of Life; MOOD 4 EVA is clearly Hakuna Matata); the Black empowerment/diaspora angles were there; she made the right decision not to put audio clips from the film into the songs, as that would have been rather annoying, surely. And even if the interludes were a last minute attempt to contextualize the music, it certainly definitely does its job and allows you to place yourself within the narrative if you cannot place it yourself.

 

What does Brown Skin Girl have to do with The Lion King though? Simba flees Pride Rock, abandons his community, and seeks to live life as Timon and Pumba (ie. not as a "lion"). This song comes after the Water (the Can You Feel The Love Tonight moment) and it's Simba's moment to realize the beauty in who he is, who Nala is, and of "people" like him.

 

 

Edited January 9, 20233 yr by swissman

31 minutes ago, ATWK said:

Renaissance

makes total sense for the album and is not a word frequently used by new age hippies and mental health freaks

54 minutes ago, *-ChriZ-* said:

Act 2 should be called "Shove it Right into My Ass, Giselle"

 

WHAT? 

 

41 minutes ago, Devin said:

Start making them but lets wait til tax season. This puta knows her fans get huge tax returns.

 

Tax season officially begins on January 23rd.

 

#that fanbase fighting tooth and nail to discredit Bey’s discography even tryna pull up DC streams vs Ms Lady, lemme stop engaging. 

 

So did it go Top 10?

 

56 minutes ago, swissman said:

I duno the only poorly executed aspect of the project was its rollout imo.

 

The allusions to the original story and the original musical themes were clear (BIGGER serves as a clear version of Circle of Life; MOOD 4 EVA is clearly Hakuna Matata); the Black empowerment/diaspora angles were there; she made the right decision not to put audio clips from the film into the songs, as that would have been rather annoying, surely. And even if the interludes were a last minute attempt to contextualize the music, it certainly definitely does its job and allows you to place yourself within the narrative if you cannot place it yourself.

 

What does Brown Skin Girl have to do with The Lion King though? Simba flees Pride Rock, abandons his community, and seeks to live life as Timon and Pumba (ie. not as a "lion"). This song comes after the Water (the Can You Feel The Love Tonight moment) and it's Simba's moment to realize the beauty in who he is, who Nala is, and of "people" like him.

 

 

I don't disagree the themes are there but this is what I mean by "grabbing song submissions on specific concepts"...

To me they are disembodied. Take for example the jump from Don't Jealous Me > JA ARE > Nile > Mood 4 Ever... This narrative thread is not present in the music to me. The OG has interludes to connect, we have Lion King references to connect them in our mind, but if the album was built around a strong narrative core this would be apparent from the music alone without reference to film. For clarity this is what I meant when I said. "she should of gone all in with The Lion King references and built it from the ground up as a audio theatrical experience." 

Again the first iteration of the album did try to do this through the iterludes but it was lazy and just grabbed snippets from the film and put it between songs. It should be woven into the lyrics, into the music. We know in the film what happens between Already and Otherside, but the album & music doesn't tell that tale. Anyway this simply me saying what I thought she should of done instead of what she did 

Plenty of album like Good Kid MADD CIty act as good examples. And even Renaissance in terms of tying narratives between songs (Thique > AUIYM) 

Edit: But to touch back on your OG point. The roll out was bad, but I think the roll out was also hurt by the fact that there was not synergy between it and the film, to the point of them even having vastly different audiences. 

Edited January 9, 20233 yr by Otter

29 minutes ago, Mitsouko said:

So did it go Top 10?

Chart isn't out yet, but will be soon

Did they change the last miss honey on PURE/HONEY or am i having a stroke? 

You got my blood in ya, and you're gonna RIIIIIIIIIIIIIISSE.

 

 

Its officially Top 10

 

 

1 minute ago, Devin said:

Its officially Top 10

 

YES! 

 

 

 

First time in a decade and a half that she's had multiple top 10s on one album.

She keeps getting away with murder

Whew lemme go listen to RENAISSANCE in its entirety! 

We did it!