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Beyoncé

This is part 1 of the Beyoncé discussion.

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- Beyoncé has always done private events... Y'all need to brush up on history here cuz this is far from her most controversial "private" event 

 

- who said the show is for Renaissance?? 

 

- this is too damn funny 🤣 

 

- I hope she stage tests some fun concepts for the tour 

 

- Beyoncé has ambitions that go beyond a musician. She wants to be a business woman too and we've long praised her for that... This is part of it. 

 

- my disappointments for this era and the silence and lack (TEASED) visuals is still the same. This has little impact on it

 

 

Collect your coins BEYONC-EE!!!

This is where the Texas government stands...

7 hours ago, Jay07 said:

....what? The Respect for Marriage act protects the rights of same sex and interracial couples on a federal level, all such unions will now be recognized in every US state and territory in response to the psycho wannabe theocrats of the Supreme Court. Meanwhile in Dubai homosexuality is illegal and theocracy is literally the law of the land. How the hell are you making the two similar?

 

You clearly haven't followed the political mess. The religious organization exception to discriminate was included to make sure some Republicans would vote for it. 

 

UAE is a religious state. But there's been a lot of progress, to the point where many LGBTQ+ people go there to live or vacation with no issues — why should Americans be looking down on progress when this country can't stop regressing? It wasn't long ago that Ronald Reagan's administration ignored HIV/AIDS epidemic and treated deaths of gay men en masse as a joke. Shootings keep taking gay/trans lives and we do nothing about it. Beyoncé indulging in some oil money to perform at a developing nation isn't really that concerning to me. 

 

Artists perform in places that are hostile to LGBTQ+ people all the time, including places in the US, but also places like Poland, Russia, China, Nigeria, Turkey... Singapore only legalized being gay in 2022. Beyoncé has performed there before and even filmed that famous hospital recording of "Halo" there...

 

I don't know, outrage against Dubai feels tinged with islamophobia and xenophobia to me. But what do I know.

Anyway, merry Christmas hive! I'm streaming 8 Days of Christmas to celebrate. 

We just had the worlds biggest event with everyone from celebs to presidents and prime ministers in Qatar... No one is really going to care.

 

The real question is... How much of the 20 Mill do you think she's taking in equity?? 👀 

3 hours ago, MrLovett said:

Beyoncé has made a disgusting choice and the bootlickers in here are gaslighting those who are unhappy she's making a decision to perform in a homophobic country that has laws in place to either criminalise or kill gay people.

 

But hey, at least the bootlicking Hive can cheer that she's got more money in her bank. Honestly, and we say some of the other fan bases are trash? The behaviour in this thread is disgusting.

There was a World Cup in Quatar not a long time ago and Presidents showed up there and Quatar is MUCH worse than Dubai in human rights. The entire world looked the other way but of course when it's Beyoncé it's drama. Beyoncé never pretended to represent gay rights, she only stands on people having freedom to do whatever they want and she had a uncle who was gay whom she adored. 

 

Any other narrative is pushed on her by people.

1 hour ago, MrLovett said:

So your thought process is to just ignore the laws then? As opposed to creating enough backlash that Beyoncé might actually try and use her privilege to make an impactful change? Great plan. :ace:

You really think Beyonce is going to create backlash by declining a private event? No one outside that event cares if she performs, if she declines, they will ask someone else. She also has fans there, should they be punished because of the laws there? 
 

 

1 hour ago, HeavyMetalAura said:

Sorry sis I have PTSD from being a hybrid stan, the liddos come for me when I mention Bey and the Hive comes for me when I mention Gaga, these f words won’t stay off my neck :chick3:

It’s fine. Your post was just funny to me, most stans can’t admit the flaws of their favs, so seeing you say that had be laughing.

10 minutes ago, jane said:

There was a World Cup in Quatar not a long time ago and Presidents showed up there and Quatar is MUCH worse than Dubai in human rights. The entire world looked the other way but of course when it's Beyoncé it's drama. Beyoncé never pretended to represent gay rights, she only stands on people having freedom to do whatever they want and she had a uncle who was gay whom she adored. 

 

Any other narrative is pushed on her by people.

The entire world absolutely did NOT look the other way. What on earth are you talking about? There was huge backlash against Qatar, regarding their laws against queer people. What is with people just straight up lying with these ridiculous straw man arguments?!

 

5 minutes ago, Shelter said:

You really think Beyonce is going to create backlash by declining a private event? No one outside that event cares if she performs, if she declines, they will ask someone else. She also has fans there, should they be punished because of the laws there? 

I think she can absolutely open up powerful and important global discussions. Is she not the same person we talk about being hugely influential and impactful? This narrative of "her LGBTQ+ fans in the country will be punished by her not attending" is so monumentally stupid, because she's not even performing for them! It's not like she's touring there, it's an exclusive event for the wealthy elite who could also hugely impact and change these laws.

 

But you, and others, have no desire to hold her accountable for these choices she's making. You think it's funny to post "collect your coins BEYONCEEEE" as if we're not discussing human rights issues here.

Merry Xmas to all! Here is what Ren's streams were exactly a month ago today:

Spotify Streams:
BMS: 241M
Cuff It: 220M
Alien Superstar: 96M
Energy- 60M
Summer Renaissance- 49M
ITG- 48M
Cozy- 47M
Church Girl- 45M
Heated- 40M
Virgo's Groove- 39M
Plastic Off the Sofa- 37M
Pure/Honey- 35M
THIQUE- 34M
MOVE- 31M
AHAP- 27M
AIUYM- 25M

On Christmas Day:
Cuff It: 281M (+61M)
BMS: 257M (+16M)
Alien: 106M (+10M) 
Energy: 65M (+5M)
Summer Renaissance: 53M (+4M)
ITG- 53M (+5M)
Cozy- 51M (+4M)
Church Girl- 49M (+4M)
Heated- 43M (+3M)
Virgo's Groove- 42M (+3M)
Plastic off The Sofa- 40M (+3M)
Pure/Honey- 38M  (+3M)

THIQUE- 37M (+3M)
MOVE- 34M (+3M)
AHAP- 30M (+3M)
AIUYM- 27M (+2M)

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35 minutes ago, jane said:

There was a World Cup in Quatar not a long time ago and Presidents showed up there and Quatar is MUCH worse than Dubai in human rights. The entire world looked the other way but of course when it's Beyoncé it's drama. Beyoncé never pretended to represent gay rights, she only stands on people having freedom to do whatever they want and she had a uncle who was gay whom she adored. 

 

Any other narrative is pushed on her by people.

"Of course when it's Beyonce it's drama" Maybe you're just paying more attention when its Bey, because the world cup caused MUCH more controversy than Bey is going to in Dubai. 

17 minutes ago, MrLovett said:

The entire world absolutely did NOT look the other way. What on earth are you talking about? There was huge backlash against Qatar, regarding their laws against queer people. What is with people just straight up lying with these ridiculous straw man arguments?!

 

I think she can absolutely open up powerful and important global discussions. Is she not the same person we talk about being hugely influential and impactful? This narrative of "her LGBTQ+ fans in the country will be punished by her not attending" is so monumentally stupid, because she's not even performing for them! It's not like she's touring there, it's an exclusive event for the wealthy elite who could also hugely impact and change these laws.

 

But you, and others, have no desire to hold her accountable for these choices she's making. You think it's funny to post "collect your coins BEYONCEEEE" as if we're not discussing human rights issues here.

If she was performing at some big WW event there, maybe. A private event, no. I don’t think it would be discussed by declining. My point is you don’t want her performing there or probably any country that have those views, which is unfair to fans who might not have the luxury to go to other countries to see her. If she announces a stadium show there on tour, what are you going to say :skull:

1 minute ago, Shelter said:

If she was performing at some big WW event there, maybe. A private event, no. I don’t think it would be discussed by declining. My point is you don’t want her performing there or probably any country that have those views, which is unfair to fans who might not have the luxury to go to other countries to see her. If she announces a stadium show there on tour, what are you going to say :skull:

If she made a public statement regarding it, yes it absolutely would be discussed. There's news articles about her sneezing, sis. :skull: Come on now.

 

If she announces a show there on tour, then I'm absolutely willing to have a larger discussion on the importance of her LGBTQ+ fans in the country being able to see her. But that's not what this situation is. So I think it's incredibly disingenuous to try and force that into the argument to soften the fact that she's made this terrible decision.

1 hour ago, MrLovett said:

If she made a public statement regarding it, yes it absolutely would be discussed. There's news articles about her sneezing, sis. :skull: Come on now.

 

If she announces a show there on tour, then I'm absolutely willing to have a larger discussion on the importance of her LGBTQ+ fans in the country being able to see her. But that's not what this situation is. So I think it's incredibly disingenuous to try and force that into the argument to soften the fact that she's made this terrible decision.

I think some of you expect too much from her. 

 

It’s not even me defending her, I’m one the worst dragging her this last year. Like I said, she could decline and someone else will replace her. I think J Lo was offered the gig. 
 

 

Bey really be holding out on us! I just heard one of those leaked songs in full. :WAP:

Just now, Shelter said:

I think some of you expect too much from her. 

 

It’s not even me defending her, I’m one the worst dragging her this last year. Like I said, she could decline and someone else will replace her. I think J Lo was offered the gig. 

I expect her to not take money over the morals that I hope she has. I don't think that's expecting too much at all. Just because someone else could theoretically take it if she refuses it, also isn't a defence. Each person could do what is right and refuse based on those grounds and then maybe a discussion will start to be had. But instead she's taken the money and I personally feel incredibly disappointed in her right now.

The backlash is surprisingly less than I thought.

 

At this point I'm not convinced they cab do anything for the era to really revive it anymore.

 

The entire RENAISSANCE era is a perfect example of how you can drop a great album and brutally murder the hype in record time.

 

And she's not winning AOTY either, so I hope this is all worth it. :rip:

Im really happy to see how yall finally realize what I realized 4-5 months ago - Bey is a hypocrite and only cares about her own coin. Shes not the humble and sweet girl anymore we grew up with. Shes a billionaire and only cares about that.

An excellent and outstanding musician/performer, but on a personal level, shes elitist and arrogant. There i said it. I hope she never acknowledges us again with her fake "I love u deep" posts. No, you dont Bey. U couldnt care less. U just like our money and how we do the work for u and freak out. U love being celebrated and adored, and Im sure you love being a mom and a wife to Jay. U live for that. But regarding us fans, you literally couldnt care less. Enjoy your 20 millies! Xoxo

 

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Just found out unproblematic queen Kylie Minogue is doing NYE at the same Dubai hotel? Two faves letting me down this Christmas I- :deadbanana2: I’m less bothered about Kylocal Minobody because she did give her fans a real era with lots of content and also she speaks in public more than once a year which is always a plus!

1 hour ago, Shelter said:

Bey was mentioned in the new Glass Onion, Knives Out movie. 
 

:cm:

Oooh, Really?! 

@*-ChriZ-* out here serving Regina George when all the girls started fighting. :devil:

35 minutes ago, Planet Mars said:

The backlash is surprisingly less than I thought.

 

At this point I'm not convinced they cab do anything for the era to really revive it anymore.

 

The entire RENAISSANCE era is a perfect example of how you can drop a great album and brutally murder the hype in record time.

 

And she's not winning AOTY either, so I hope this is all worth it. :rip:

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12 minutes ago, Mitsouko said:

Just found out unproblematic queen Kylie Minogue is doing NYE at the same Dubai hotel? Two faves letting me down this Christmas I- :deadbanana2: I’m less bothered about Kylocal Minobody because she did give her fans a real era with lots of content and also she speaks in public more than once a year which is always a plus!

Oh wow, Kylie. 

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6 minutes ago, Hallad173 said:

Oooh, Really?! 

Kate Hudson mentions her 

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