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Beyoncé

This is part 1 of the Beyoncé discussion.

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The tracks are continously rising to newer spots on AM each day (BMS, Alien, Cuff It, Church Girl and Energy in particular). Church Girl, for instance, was at #51 a few hours ago and now it's at #44. Cuff it was #43 and now at #37. So, Parkwood needs to get out of this geriatric funk and get to doing their actual JOBS other than posting IG stories. 

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My most played:

  1. Heated
  2. America Has A Problem
  3. Plastic Off The Sofa
  4. Virgo’s Groove 
  5. Cuff It

My most played:

1. VIRGO'S GROOVE

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13 minutes ago, Bey Admired said:

They can try to pretend that the release of the visuals has been some well thought out marketing genius and that every minute detail has been planned out months in advance. 

 

But it’s very clear to anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together that the visuals weren’t ready, that everything released so far has been done on a whim (the visualisers for example), that there is no coordinated and strategic brilliance at play, and that they have made a complete mess of what could have been a truly legendary campaign. 

 

It’s not smart or clever to not have the visuals for the lead single months after its release, especially when said artist has established herself as very much a visual artist. She did that herself, not us! So now that we come to expect that from her, she pulls it away from us. All that has done is left me feeling quite empty this era… just an unfulfilling feeling. The music is obviously amazing, but without the accompanying visuals, it’s just never really felt like a proper era to me. The saddest part is, I doubt I’ll even care all that much by the time the visuals are released, so I don’t suspect the GP are going to care. It’s such bad marketing lol :skull: Like, really bad. And I’m sorry, Beyoncé as the owner of Parkwood has to take the responsibility for that as I’m sure she makes all the final decisions.

 

U are absolutely spot on. U can tell whenever they have something ready, they post it right away, which means - its not ready yet. Unprofessional af.

I mean I get the point of being afraid of leaks when it comes to songs, fair enough. But videos? I mean cmon now. And most of the looks we've seen were done inside studios anyway. 

 

At the end of the day we cant do anything about it, but its sad to see how they and Bey obviously put so so much effort into the music itself (its outstanding) and then just proceed to be so so sloppy. The BMS video shouldve been out 2 weeks ago, we should already have a date for other Videos, wheres single #2, etc?

They are so incompetent in these areas or just blissfully ignorant. One of the two.

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Imagine if Bey changed the whole direction before the album dropped. :skull:

3 hours ago, BnPac said:

I'm surprised you guys want the visuals so much. Frankly I'd rather just the video of the next single and some real promo. 

I will take a good interview or two over a visual. That’s better promotion than a visual actually.  She’s been quiet for years . Like imagine if Beyonce did a Breakfast Club interview.  That would break the Internet because it’s so rare. Visuals won’t be as much of a surprise at this point. It’s expected

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Can y’all enjoy the music and relax? It’s barely been a month. Clearly, we’re going to get the videos soon or else she wouldn’t have teased them. Y’all are not marketing experts and it was very clear the moment y’all dragged her for the lack of promotion re renaissance which turned out to be one of her best received albums. The demand is still there… 

39 minutes ago, Bey Admired said:

They can try to pretend that the release of the visuals has been some well thought out marketing genius and that every minute detail has been planned out months in advance. 

 

But it’s very clear to anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together that the visuals weren’t ready, that everything released so far has been done on a whim (the visualisers for example), that there is no coordinated and strategic brilliance at play, and that they have made a complete mess of what could have been a truly legendary campaign. 

 

It’s not smart or clever to not have the visuals for the lead single months after its release, especially when said artist has established herself as very much a visual artist. She did that herself, not us! So now that we come to expect that from her, she pulls it away from us. All that has done is left me feeling quite empty this era… just an unfulfilling feeling. The music is obviously amazing, but without the accompanying visuals, it’s just never really felt like a proper era to me. The saddest part is, I doubt I’ll even care all that much by the time the visuals are released, so I don’t suspect the GP are going to care. It’s such bad marketing lol :skull: Like, really bad. And I’m sorry, Beyoncé as the owner of Parkwood has to take the responsibility for that as I’m sure she makes all the final decisions.

 

You made lots of points! :clap3:I'd argue though that the bolded is at least an indication that she somewhat cares and is aware enough to at least play the game to some extent. The visualiser and remixes were really timely as far as boosting BMS goes. Its just a shame because none of it would've been necessary if she just released the damn video, which would've had a far greater impact.

I don't feel empty with this era and I will be excited whenever the visuals drop but you're on the money with the GP, who at this point, wont be quite as on board.

you can add me to the performance category!!

 

back in the day...we would've gotten a morning concert series. she did one every era up until ST.

 

she did 5 songs total...4 new ones + 1 old hit. if she did this with Renaissance - what would be your setlist?

 

i'd say...BMS, Alien, Summer Renaissance, Virgo's Groove (shortened for TV) + Love on Top

 

 

Top 5 from Apple Music 

 

Break my Soul
Alien Superstar 
Heated
Summer Renaissance
Thique

Cuff it isn't there because I skip it so that I don't get over it too quickly. It is such a fun song to vibe and dance to so I don't wanna ruin that feeling prematurely like I often do with my original favourite tracks.

I knew today was going to bring iconic meltdowns after y’all convinced yourselves that 00:08:20 meant something :ahh:

 

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52 minutes ago, Beyle Street said:

The tracks are continously rising to newer spots on AM each day (BMS, Alien, Cuff It, Church Girl and Energy in particular). Church Girl, for instance, was at #51 a few hours ago and now it's at #44. Cuff it was #43 and now at #37. So, Parkwood needs to get out of this geriatric funk and get to doing their actual JOBS other than posting IG stories. 

#16 Break My Soul

#21 Alien Supersolar (my iPhone always autocorrects superstar to Supersolar so imma just keep calling it that)

 

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Either way it’s still stupid/ not genius that parkwood hasn’t communicated anything about visuals or the second single.

I truly don't understand those of you who are say you just want a music video and not a full length visual. Can you explain why you want LESS content just so you can complain you're bored of the era when you play the one video out?

One thing I think Bey fumbled was not TALKING about the album.  Do one interview and explain the vision.  That led to the mixed reaction I believe.  People werent expecting this sound when pressing play on a Bey album.  
 

Parkwood fumbles the most basic things and not talking about her music doesnt make her more Prince like.  He was mysterious about his life, not his art.  Lot of fumbling at Parkwood in the messaging aspect.  The confusion on what the three acts are should have never happened.  There is too much guessing and clues where there needs to be none.

 

The visuals will come when they come.
 

 

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They haven't announced because they don't know or at least they didn't imo. 

In all her career, B has never announced something that she didn't do. We are not a fanbase that can sit down and say she promised the song/album would come in summer or spring and it is still not here. 

 

It's clear Beyoncé was going to release Church Girl as the second single. She put it #1 on every playlist. It's a no brainer. If this was still the physical era,  CG would have been sent to radio and the physical CDs would have been out at the same time as Rennie. Then Church Girl performed very poorly for the amount of promo so they switched to what was probably her second choice : Summer Renaissance. That also did less than other songs so they went with CI and now they seem to go with AS.

Maybe they planned to launch Church Girl so now they have to find a new plan. 

For the visuals, they are not announced because they're probably not ready/finished. The green part proves that they were still filming a couple weeks ago. 

21 minutes ago, Blue Rose said:

I knew today was going to bring iconic meltdowns after y’all convinced yourselves that 00:08:20 meant something :ahh:

 

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The fact it says “LP” does mean something I’m sure. But I don’t think it’s to do with August 20th. It reads more like “LP8………20”. She’s already teased B8 (“What is a B7? B8”). I’m just wondering what the 20 means. :huh:

There's a tweet with 100k likes on Twitter suggesting she does coke because of her energy on stage... why does everyone want her to be a drug user so bad?

Half of us in here didn’t know how to officially stream BMS so let’s just let THEM handle the promo/marketing for this album.:rip: She’s doing fine as it is. My main gripe though is the silence from her, I hope the visual album drops soon and then the album commentary will be fun to hear, i just miss her talking

15 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said:

I truly don't understand those of you who are say you just want a music video and not a full length visual. Can you explain why you want LESS content just so you can complain you're bored of the era when you play the one video out?

I dont think we would be complaining since that’s the norm. But we would be bored because she doesn’t promote.

Creating a film is fun but it always opens up a bunch of cans of worms (delays, storylines, cohesion, exclusivity etc…) A normal stress free era would be welcomed. It’s been 10 years 

Alien Superstar is really giving future #1 if the cards are played right. It's always raved about, rightfully so.

 

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22 minutes ago, BnPac said:

 

 

It's clear Beyoncé was going to release Church Girl as the second single. She put it #1 on every playlist. It's a no brainer. If this was still the physical era,  CG would have been sent to radio and the physical CDs would have been out at the same time as Rennie. Then Church Girl performed very poorly for the amount of promo so they switched to what was probably her second choice : Summer Renaissance. That also did less than other songs so they went with CI and now they seem to go with AS.

Maybe they planned to launch Church Girl so now they have to find a new plan. 

For the visuals, they are not announced because they're probably not ready/finished. The green part proves that they were still filming a couple weeks ago. 

Clear how? What proof is there?  If you are referring to spotify TTH - each country had different songs, so that proves nothing? What else? CG was not sent to radio....

Renaissance really been keeping me afloat this week.

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Chyle...my soul is still intact so far.

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