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Beyoncé

This is part 1 of the Beyoncé discussion.

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4 minutes ago, www said:

Clear how? What proof is there?  If you are referring to spotify TTH - each country had different songs, so that proves nothing? What else? CG was not sent to radio....

I didn't say it was sent to radio...

That's clear to me since Church Girl was more pushed than all songs in the album. And the US is the country where she makes more effort single wise and it was both #1 on TTH Spotify and AM. 

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I thought they were gonna push Church Girl too as the next single. The playlisting was strong.

30 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said:

There's a tweet with 100k likes on Twitter suggesting she does coke because of her energy on stage... why does everyone want her to be a drug user so bad?

Because everyone is a drug user :rip: 

being an adult is realizing that most people are on coke. Unfortunately i dont have the money to join :lmao: 

1 minute ago, Blue Rose said:

Because everyone is a drug user :rip: 

being an adult is realizing that most people are on coke. Unfortunately i dont have the money to join :lmao: 

I'm fully aware a lot of people do drugs, but Bey does not and has never struck me as someone who does cocaine. Like :rip: There's also a desperation from people for her to use drugs for whatever reason 

 

Cue all the observations of her at games and commentary she must be high

1 hour ago, Bey Admired said:

They can try to pretend that the release of the visuals has been some well thought out marketing genius and that every minute detail has been planned out months in advance. 

 

But it’s very clear to anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together that the visuals weren’t ready, that everything released so far has been done on a whim (the visualisers for example), that there is no coordinated and strategic brilliance at play, and that they have made a complete mess of what could have been a truly legendary campaign. 

 

It’s not smart or clever to not have the visuals for the lead single months after its release, especially when said artist has established herself as very much a visual artist. She did that herself, not us! So now that we come to expect that from her, she pulls it away from us. All that has done is left me feeling quite empty this era… just an unfulfilling feeling. The music is obviously amazing, but without the accompanying visuals, it’s just never really felt like a proper era to me. The saddest part is, I doubt I’ll even care all that much by the time the visuals are released, so I don’t suspect the GP are going to care. It’s such bad marketing lol :skull: Like, really bad. And I’m sorry, Beyoncé as the owner of Parkwood has to take the responsibility for that as I’m sure she makes all the final decisions.

 

Damn, I can feel your disappointment.

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Bey has too much media training to be a crackhead.

 

Exhibit A:

 

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Beyoncé’s media training so good she covers her crotch even when passed out drunk. A crackhead would’ve been caught slippin.


the end. 
 

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1 hour ago, Nippy'sReceipts said:

I will take a good interview or two over a visual. That’s better promotion than a visual actually.  She’s been quiet for years . Like imagine if Beyonce did a Breakfast Club interview.  That would break the Internet because it’s so rare. Visuals won’t be as much of a surprise at this point. It’s expected

I just hate the discourse over how Beyoncé talks, so I don’t mind her not running through that part of the media circuit for promo anymore. 
 

Re: her presence this era…

 

Getting only infrequent glamour shots from private parties and a single two-second clip where she finally cracks a smile and holds up a finger and we don’t even hear sounds come out of her makes it feel like we’re stanning a bot who’s catfishing us :gaycat6: Say hi to us ***** I mean 

 

On the other hand I’m absolutely clenched for the visuals which I know will wring every drop of blood from my worthless carcass so :gaycat6:

 

 

 

 

I can't find the rest but the playlisting was string, even in countries where urban music is not popular. 

Then... 

 

 

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11 minutes ago, BnPac said:

I can't find the rest but the playlisting was string, even in countries where urban music is not popular.

Playlisting is done by streaming services and their editorial teams. Unless there's a clear next single being pushed, they just pick whatever they think will stick, hence the Church Girl vs. Summer Renaissance vs. Cuff It vs. Alien Superstar situation on Spotify.

8 minutes ago, Devin said:

Bey has too much media training to be a crackhead.

 

Exhibit A:

 

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Beyoncé’s media training so good she covers her crotch even when passed out drunk. A crackhead would’ve been caught slippin.


the end. 
 

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Not Jay serving the same "Just smile politely y'all" energy in both pics :rip:

Yeah even though I like Church Girl it was not the song they should have gone with on all those playlists during the album release. 
 

I got to say post Matthew Bey has not been the best at choosing singles. 4 clearly should have been EOT. Self titled should have only been DIL, no xo as the WW push and then pretty hurts to urban wtf?  Don’t even get me started on formation and hold up. BMS was the right choice but no video or promo is kind of hurting the era. They should have known AS, Cuff it, or heated, should have had immediate pushes on the playlists.  To me this is her best album and it sucks to see such a poor rollout. 

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3 minutes ago, ATWK said:

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Not Jay serving the same "Just smile politely y'all" energy in both pics :rip:

:dies:
 

Well they grew up in an era where media training was essential to one’s career. 

37 minutes ago, Blue Rose said:

Because everyone is a drug user :rip: 

being an adult is realizing that most people are on coke. Unfortunately i dont have the money to join :lmao: 

Being an adult is also realizing not everyone smokes. I went to Catholic school(rich kids) my whole life and had plenty of opportunities to do/get coke at parties. Never interested me. 
 

1 hour ago, Blue Rose said:

I knew today was going to bring iconic meltdowns after y’all convinced yourselves that 00:08:20 meant something :ahh:

 

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I was never convinced by that. I never even mentioned or discussed it because I knew it would just lead to disappointment :cm:

2 hours ago, *-ChriZ-* said:

U are absolutely spot on. U can tell whenever they have something ready, they post it right away, which means - its not ready yet. Unprofessional af.

I mean I get the point of being afraid of leaks when it comes to songs, fair enough. But videos? I mean cmon now. And most of the looks we've seen were done inside studios anyway. 

 

At the end of the day we cant do anything about it, but its sad to see how they and Bey obviously put so so much effort into the music itself (its outstanding) and then just proceed to be so so sloppy. The BMS video shouldve been out 2 weeks ago, we should already have a date for other Videos, wheres single #2, etc?

They are so incompetent in these areas or just blissfully ignorant. One of the two.

Two of Beyoncé’s visuals have leaked early, Grown Woman and ALREADY. Video leaks are very much a thing that happens

I swear to god if she drops the ball on what is arguably the best album of her career, I’ll never forgive her. Especially when this era has so much ******* potential. 

 

There’s no reason this album shouldn’t smash and have amazing longevity. The only reason it wouldn’t is because of bad marketing and decision making. All of which bey is ultimately responsible for. 

 

We’ll see. But I’m not optimistic, unfortunately. 

3 minutes ago, sillycilla said:

Yeah even though I like Church Girl it was not the song they should have gone with on all those playlists during the album release. 
 

I got to say post Matthew Bey has not been the best at choosing singles. 4 clearly should have been EOT. Self titled should have only been DIL, no xo as the WW push and then pretty hurts to urban wtf?  BMS was the right choice but no video or promo is kind of hurting the era. They should have known AS, Cuff it, or heated, should have had immediate pushes on the playlists.  To me this is her best album and it sucks to see such a poor rollout. 

You’re kidding! PH was NOT sent to URBAN!!! :biblio:
 

I was JUST thinking about how Beyoncé eras are always a mess when it comes to anything after the lead single. It’s baffling how difficult it’s been for her team in the past to pay attention to the fans and the metrics, then push the obvious choice.


I’m sure there’s more that goes into it but I imagine it ALWAYS looks like pure chaos in the Singles dept at Parkwood ?

At this point in her career, we’re lucky that she’s even giving us this much. THREE albums that’ll likely all have visuals?? I mean come on! One of the three is already lauded as an amazing career highlight, and she deserves her flowers for that alone. That woman probably just wants to put out music and go on about her life. She’s already given SO much of herself to this industry; she deserves to move on her own terms. I’m just thankful that she’s even this invested and intentional. Sure I want the visual like yesterday, and there’s a lot that can be said about promo, but I respect all she’s already done.

2 minutes ago, Hallad173 said:

You’re kidding! PH was NOT sent to URBAN!!! :biblio:
 

I was JUST thinking about how Beyoncé eras are always a mess when it comes to anything after the lead single. It’s baffling how difficult it’s been for her team in the past to pay attention to the fans and the metrics, then push the obvious choice.


I’m sure there’s more that goes into it but I imagine it ALWAYS looks like pure chaos in the Singles dept at Parkwood ?

I dont think they have a single department to begin with

 

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4 minutes ago, Devin said:

Inb4 she will go right into act ii era this fall.

 

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And release the visuals for Act 1 next year? Sounds very Beyoncé to me

 

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