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Beyoncé

This is part 1 of the Beyoncé discussion.

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12 minutes ago, Bey Admired said:

I swear to god if she drops the ball on what is arguably the best album of her career, I’ll never forgive her. Especially when this era has so much ******* potential. 

 

There’s no reason this album shouldn’t smash and have amazing longevity. The only reason it wouldn’t is because of bad marketing and decision making. All of which bey is ultimately responsible for. 

 

We’ll see. But I’m not optimistic, unfortunately. 

Is the album not smashing? Hasn’t she cleared over 500K in less than a month?

 

And she just got her first solo number one since 2009? I’d say she’s doing pretty well, no?

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3 minutes ago, *-ChriZ-* said:

And release the visuals for Act 1 next year? Sounds very Beyoncé to me

 

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When the visuals drop two days before the tour next year.

 

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AM: 
#15 BMS
#20 Alien Superstar
#34 Cuff It
#42 Church Girl
#56 Energy
#70 Plastic Off the Sofa
#74 ITG 
#76 Cozy
#81 Heated
#91 Virgo's Groove

Some of yall need to realize that criticizing one aspect of the rollout doesnt mean everything is ****. The music is incredible, the direction is awesome, the teaser looked great. Still, not mentioning a specific release date or going for single #2 is sloppy, no matter how u want to spin it. Sloppy and unnecessary. And Ms Perfection is so has to deal with us fans pointing that out

 

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I cant believer her team was gonna push Church Girl.  Its not even a good song, let alone a good follow up.  Beys taste level is questionable sometimes

3 minutes ago, Blumoon said:

I cant believer her team was gonna push Church Girl.  Its not even a good song, let alone a good follow up.  Beys taste level is questionable sometimes

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Blumoon said:

I cant believer her team was gonna push Church Girl.  Its not even a good song, let alone a good follow up.  Beys taste level is questionable sometimes

Some of us here felt the same way about BMS and look how that turned out.

 

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1 hour ago, kimberly said:

Playlisting is done by streaming services and their editorial teams. Unless there's a clear next single being pushed, they just pick whatever they think will stick, hence the Church Girl vs. Summer Renaissance vs. Cuff It vs. Alien Superstar situation on Spotify.

The label picks the Single lol

Its crazy how much AS has blown up on IG and TikTok.  Send it to radio w an edit…make both full choruses part of the song and take out that speech at the end…boom second #1

 

Then push it to be part of a soundtrack or sum.  Wake it up Parkwood!!!

 

The way they slack w the artist thats keeping the lights on kills me

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8 minutes ago, simon said:

The label picks the Single lol

They been doing a good job at picking what’s single worthy. 4 the only era they kinda fumbled.

 

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2 minutes ago, G'Day said:

Parkwood = Beyoncé = Parkwood = Beyoncé

 

She’s keeping the lights on because she’s the boss and runs everything. If Parkwood is slacking, you can bet Bey has something to do with it.

Theyre all yes men, thats the problem.  Someone needs to feel comfortable applying pressure.  

12 minutes ago, Blumoon said:

Its crazy how much AS has blown up on IG and TikTok.  Send it to radio w an edit…make both full choruses part of the song and take out that speech at the end…boom second #1

 

Then push it to be part of a soundtrack or sum.  Wake it up Parkwood!!!

 

The way they slack w the artist thats keeping the lights on kills me

I mean just look at what they allow Chloe to produce. Utter garbage with no direction.

 

We give too much credit to Beys Management. Shes a great artist, great musician, great singer and entertainer. But her Management and Marketing choices are pure ****.

Just now, *-ChriZ-* said:

I mean just look at what they allow Chloe to produce. Utter garbage with no direction.

 

We give too much credit to Beys Management. Shes a great artist, great musician, great singer and entertainer. But her Management and Marketing choices are pure ****.

Theyre letting Chloe test out what she likes.  Shes not making the label much money so I dont see the problem…

 

I did find her Treat Me video utterly awful and vulgar but thats on her.

18 minutes ago, simon said:

The label picks the Single lol

yes? I didn't say they don't? I'm saying the reason why 4 different songs have been playlist (and 3 different songs put on TTH in addition to Break My Soul) isn't because the label can't decide, like the other poster made it seem. it's because the label hasn't said anything about a single or given any indication of what might be the next single, and streaming services are using their editorial teams to pick one on their behalf.

1 minute ago, Blumoon said:

Theyre letting Chloe test out what she likes.  Shes not making the label much money so I dont see the problem…

 

I did find her Treat Me video utterly awful and vulgar but thats on her.

Again, no direction. Listen to her latest reel, the lyrics are cringe, the production cheap. Bey and her management SHOULD know better on how to push a young artist. Its certainly not like that where ur new artists just comes up with boring, stale and cringy ****, especially when she actually has a LOT of potential

2 minutes ago, kimberly said:

yes? I didn't say they don't? I'm saying the reason why 4 different songs have been playlist (and 3 different songs put on TTH in addition to Break My Soul) isn't because the label can't decide, like the other poster made it seem. it's because the label hasn't said anything about a single or given any indication of what might be the next single, and streaming services are using their editorial teams to pick one on their behalf.

I think the label told them to choose between SR, Cuff It and Church Girl imo and that is why those were the only 3 options.

15 minutes ago, Devin said:

They been doing a good job at picking what’s single worthy. 4 the only era they kinda fumbled.

 

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Bday was horrible! I feel like that album would have sold 1M first week if they went with GMB & Upgrade U.

 

Dejavu (which has become a cult favorite in hindsight) & RTA had no business being the options lol 

5 minutes ago, *-ChriZ-* said:

Again, no direction. Listen to her latest reel, the lyrics are cringe, the production cheap. Bey and her management SHOULD know better on how to push a young artist. Its certainly not like that where ur new artists just comes up with boring, stale and cringy ****, especially when she actually has a LOT of potential

I see your point but what happens when Chloe feels stifled? We know she can make great music, based on her past efforts in the group.  She is coming into her own and there will be stumbles.

 

I just wish they toned down the OTT sexual visuals.  That treat me video was nasty.

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3 minutes ago, *-ChriZ-* said:

Again, no direction. Listen to her latest reel, the lyrics are cringe, the production cheap. Bey and her management SHOULD know better on how to push a young artist. Its certainly not like that where ur new artists just comes up with boring, stale and cringy ****, especially when she actually has a LOT of potential

I feel like Beyoncé is an ARTIST who had to deal with an overwhelming team early in her career. I think that is why she doesn’t promote now.

 

So she gives Chloe grace to be an artist first but she should have someone like Matthew lol

 

5 minutes ago, simon said:

Bday was horrible! I feel like that album would have sold 1M first week if they went with GMB & Upgrade U.

 

Dejavu (which has become a cult favorite in hindsight) & RTA had no business being the options lol 

Bday was Beyoncé choosing the singles. Matthew had to set her straight with IASF lol 

I honestly think Beys musical taste kinda ruins her music.  She has amazing vocals but she seems to like to add crass or vulgar moments to music (red lobster line, Monica Lewinsky) or write nonsense (she more cancun he more st tropez?!) to songs that lowkey take em down a notch.

 

Its like, Bey its okay, you dont need to be the writer, singer and producer.  Let ppl do what they are good at.

 

That bleeds into the single choices as well. Combined w this attitude of non engagement; she has really crippled her sales over the past decade.

 

Im sincerely hoping the songwriting is stronger for act 2.  The vocals and production are there already.  Like can yall imagine cuff it being a fun dance song without all the f bombs?  Or Energy w a more comprehensive lyric story?  Im That Girl with lyrics that make sense.

 

Parkwood is full of yes men.

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9 minutes ago, Blumoon said:

 (she more cancun he more st tropez?!) to songs that lowkey take em down a notch.

 

Not you shading the literal best part of the song lol. I always sing that with my full chest.

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