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Lorde - 'Virgin'

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On 7/18/2025 at 6:33 PM, 305 said:

I'm seeing huge TikTok's nearly every day using the song

 

It deserves to be another one of her classics :jonny4:

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    ijbol remember when Solar Power had no CD bc of her climate activism - she said F the planet for this album, we cheered!

  • new track in 3 days.

  • I believe Melodrama remains her magnum opus, but Virgin sounds absolutely incredible. It's the Lorde we know, yet it also feels incredibly refreshing. In Hammer, she mentioned, "I might be born again,

2 hours ago, 305 said:

David is close to surpass WWT as the most streamed daily song on the album!

Shapeshifter is not far behind. Perhaps her label/team dropped the ball on that one, which just missed out on making the Hot 100, and charted in NZ, UK and Ireland.

 

The fact that both songs (and Favourite Daughter) are getting more daily streams than two of the pre-release singles, makes me think that a different single strategy might have worked better.

 

But perhaps it doesn't matter, Slate does quite a good job here, a lot better than some reviewers who count for Metacritic.

 

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When I heard the first two lead singles "What Was That" and "Man of the Year" in April and May, I worried that they felt kind of ephemeral and incomplete. Listening to the whole album, I realize that's because it's less a collection of songs than a continuous 35-minute piece, in which each track is only one chapter, one perspective.

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Family is not the only force in her life Lorde tries to call to account here. As she's said, there are "composites of memories" involved, but the implicated figures must include Justin Warren, the music executive she was romantically entangled with for some seven years; he was nearly twice her age. Hearing lines like "Since I was 17, I gave you everything" ("What Was That") or "Hope you find another starlet" ("If She Could See Me Now") and "Was I just someone to dominate? … Was I just young blood to get on tape?" ("David")—these are indictments of the whole music business.

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In fact, "David" casts a shadow back across the whole album, a whispered answer to an implied whodunnit, which must also include her own audience within the teen-star-industrial complex. Lorde's work was so advanced beyond her years, and so different from stereotypical Svengali-produced teen pop, that we might have blithely imagined she was somehow protected from the worst risks.

https://slate.com/culture/2025/06/lorde-virgin-lyrics-vinyl-album-shapeshifter-review.html

So this happened, more than 2M views.

 

Then about 6 hours ago, when I was about to say she isn't doing anything to promote the album, we got this one.

 

Out of all the songs David becoming a tiktok hit :dies: not complaining tho that song is a highlight on her discography :clap3:

what was that, shapeshifter, favourite daughter, and current affairs are such classiques :smitten:

Loveeee this album, I really wanna get the vinyl but holding out until maybe a cooler variant comes out. Looks unlikely

Just now, AM98GJ said:

Looks unlikely

what makes you think there won't be a vinyl for the deluxe

7 minutes ago, Kayseri Mantisi said:

what makes you think there won't be a vinyl for the deluxe

ohh is that happening soon? I'll keep an eye out! Would love for her to do one with Blood Records

On 7/24/2025 at 1:40 AM, Kayseri Mantisi said:

what makes you think there won't be a vinyl for the deluxe

Is there any real evidence that there is even going to be deluxe album?

 

Has there ever been a deluxe/extended Lorde album in vinyl LP format?

They could probably add two, maybe three songs and still fit them all on one vinyl LP, but so far all we have is her saying:

 

"We cut a song last minute because I thought it diluted the vision!! One of my absolute favs that I wrote with Fabi. Couple really good B sides knocking around actually."

https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/lorde-virgin-fun-facts-deluxe-edition-1236011305/

 

These B sides could be like "No Better" which at least made it onto Spotify, but no deluxe, or perhaps they might be like "Precious Metals" which she teased, performed live more than 30 times, but never got an official release?

https://uproxx.com/music/lorde-precious-metals-unreleased-melodrama-song-debut-milwaukee/

 

Or perhaps they could be like the Solar Power bonus tracks, "Helen of Troy" and "Hold No Grudge".

But those were on the Music Box download from day one.

https://www.discogs.com/release/19924411-Lorde-Solar-Power

 

It might make sense if they're holding the songs back for the tour, except the Ultrasound World Tour is pretty much sold out, so they don't need more tracks to promote the tour. Perhaps they are holding them back for the awards season, or when they are needed to keep the album on the charts a bit longer. But did she even say that the tracks were finished? I guess the one they cut last minute must be 90% produced and almost ready to go.

Possible number of tracks that could go on a deluxe vinyl.

Standard Virgin vinyl track numbering here:

https://www.discogs.com/release/34382305-Lorde-Virgin

 

A1    3:13    Hammer
A2    3:29    What Was That
A3    4:17    Shapeshifter
A4    3:00    Man Of The Year
A5    3:28    Favourite Daughter

B1    3:18    Current Affairs
B2    1:57    Clearblue
B3    2:35    GRWM
B4    3:14    Broken Glass
B5    2:56    If She Could See Me Now
B6    3:24    David

 

Side A: 17:27
Side B: 17:24

 

They could add one 3:00 minute track to each side, and have the total playing time of around 41 minutes. But adding 2x 3:00 minute tracks each side, would push it beyond 22 minutes per side, which is considered a limit for good quality. In fact some sites recommend keeping the time to 20 minutes each side.

https://x-disc.pl/en/what-is-the-maximum-length-of-material-that-can-be-placed-on-vinyl/

 

So what are the options, add just 2 tracks, add more short tracks, compromise on quality by having more than 22 minutes each side?

Streaming/digital only deluxe album?

 

We probably aren't getting a double album.

On 7/25/2025 at 3:51 PM, brokee said:

If She Could See Me Now is sooo good 

"If She Could See Me Now" isn't my favourite, but it does have some great parts which help set the scene for "David"

 

   Baby, whenever you'd break me
   I'd watch it happen, like an angel looking down
   It made me a woman, being hurt like that
   I can feel, don't need fantasy

   Oh, God, if she could see me now

 

Plus there is this part in the second verse, which can be seen as a sense of pride in how far she has come in terms of self confidence and self love. She used to have an eating disorder, but now lifts heavy weights and is much stronger. But it could also be seen as shading her ex.

 

   In the gym, I'm exorcising
   All my demons, make 'em keep riding
   Yesterday I lifted your body weight

 

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Yeah, I'm pretty sure she could these days.

lorde-justin-warren-spl5530308-007-1-64692994a70f2.jpg

The pic appears to be from March 2023 found here:

https://www.elle.com/culture/celebrities/a43949460/who-is-justin-warren-lorde-boyfriend/

 

The ELLE story suggests they spit up around September 2023, but I think it was a couple of months earlier, before her series of European festival appearances in August 2023. September is just when she mentioned it in her email (edited for clarity).

 

53 minutes ago, Letemtalk said:

"If She Could See Me Now" isn't my favourite, but it does have some great parts which help set the scene for "David"

 

   Baby, whenever you'd break me
   I'd watch it happen, like an angel looking down
   It made me a woman, being hurt like that
   I can feel, don't need fantasy

   Oh, God, if she could see me now

 

Plus there is this part in the second verse, which can be seen as a sense of pride in how for she has come in terms of self confidence and self love, when she used to have an eating disorder, but now lifts heavy weights and is much stronger. But it could also be seen as shading her ex.

 

   In the gym, I'm exorcising
   All my demons, make 'em keep riding
   Yesterday I lifted your body weight

 

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Yeah, I'm pretty sure she could these days.

lorde-justin-warren-spl5530308-007-1-64692994a70f2.jpg

The pic appears to be from March 2023 found here:

https://www.elle.com/culture/celebrities/a43949460/who-is-justin-warren-lorde-boyfriend/

 

But I think they split up a month or two before September 2023 which is what the ELLE story suggests, that was just when she mentioned it in her email.

 

To be honest I don't know much about her personal stuff but thanks for sharing this cause I didn't get some lyrics and even some songs but this will help in some cases 

On 7/25/2025 at 6:49 AM, Letemtalk said:

These B sides could be like "No Better" which at least made it onto Spotify, but no deluxe

actually no better made it onto pure heroine extended, it was itunes/apple music exclusive 

Edited by Kimi

okay but this is very interesting, how she likes her songs to be almost naked, and links it back to royals. clear artistic identity 

 

On 7/22/2025 at 11:44 AM, ultraviolence.xx said:

what was that, shapeshifter, favourite daughter, and current affairs are such classiques :smitten:

Literally my top 5 along with David

On 7/13/2025 at 8:50 PM, Letemtalk said:

I need the full BBC live stream of that performance.

She looked so good in that performance, more confident that I had seen her before, and she sounded so good too.

I've been watching the Glastonbury performance again, such a great show.

 

I noticed they didn't appear to have a proper live drummer, although the keyboard player that has been with her since the Pure Heroine era was there. Ben Barter (drums) who has also been with her since Pure Heroine and Ray Suen who was with the Melodrama and Solar Power tours weren't there, but they could be back for the tour in September.

People are being harsh on this just because it's not Melodrama, but the whole record is genius from start to finish. 

36 minutes ago, RadioactiveLights said:

the whole record is genius

Yes, people are just hating on her for no reason, especially in here

does anyone else realize that she disappeared again? :biblio:

10 minutes ago, Kayseri Mantisi said:

does anyone else realize that she disappeared again? :biblio:

I'm worried she became hyperfixated on the stan criticism...

1 minute ago, RadioactiveLights said:

I'm worried she became hyperfixated on the stan criticism...

and she disappeared after posting that viral crying pic too :biblio: hope everything's okay :dancehall:

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