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Beyoncé

This is part 1 of the Beyoncé discussion.

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29 minutes ago, Devin said:

Also the themes/attitudes on ST and Lemon came off like she needed to make a statement to get things off her chest which makes sense for the surprise drops. Meanwhile this era its all about having fun, enjoying life which is why we are back to a rollout. 

I don't agree with this. Beyoncé's been obsessed with the same themes her entire career, and when she's not fully happy with something she redoes it 10 times better. Right now she's all about joy, and letting overthinking and perfectionism behind... but she already did that with self-titled. She talks about that in the BTS for ST, the one about run and gun videos. She also talks about 4 being a celebration of life and love in Year of 4. The themes have always been there.

 

It's like the transition from the visuals of B'Day to the complete film of Lemonade, she's been improving on the same idea. She also redid the afrobeats concept for the original 4 in The Gift, and she's redoing the double album of I Am... Sasha Fierce with a triple act Renaissance. Even the lack of visuals for Renaissance was already done with B5 being called Beyoncé and having a black cover to not give anything away from the visual album.

 

In a way I find it funny, because she always talks about not being a perfectionist and letting go... but she just can't, and that's why I love her.

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4 hours ago, Starshine said:

America already said no to this song, it's not the sound people want to hear.

What is it with this forum and just making things up and telling yourself it's a fact? :rip: The last time she had a multi-week solo top 10 was "Sweet Dreams" in 2009 ffs. I'm going to need you all to get a grip, because these delusions are not it.

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6 minutes ago, Draper. said:

I don't agree with this. Beyoncé's been obsessed with the same themes her entire career, and when she's not fully happy with something she redoes it 10 times better. Right now she's all about joy, and letting overthinking and perfectionism behind... but she already did that with self-titled. She talks about that in the BTS for ST, the one about run and gun videos. She also talks about 4 being a celebration of life and love in Year of 4. The themes have always been there.

 

It's like the transition from the visuals of B'Day to the complete film of Lemonade, she's been improving on the same idea. She also redid the afrobeats concept for the original 4 in The Gift, and she's redoing the double album of I Am... Sasha Fierce with a triple act Renaissance. Even the lack of visuals for Renaissance was already done with B5 being called Beyoncé and having a black cover to not give anything away from the visual album.

 

In a way I find it funny, because she always talks about not being a perfectionist and letting go... but she just can't, and that's why I love her.

I figured themes of marriage, miscarriage, infidelity, and anger were more prevalent in ST/Lemon vs other albums. :michael:
 

I see what you mean tho.

40 minutes ago, Planet Mars said:

The Beyhive Twitter pages that keep posting embarrassing Beyoncé moments each day she doesn't release the video :ahh:

 

I've been cracking up. That one vid where she's making up lyrics to IIWAB because she forgot the lyrics had me literally LOL. LMAO

45 minutes ago, Devin said:

That better NOT be the name of the fanbase. :deadbanana2:

It is and we're proud of it :gaycat2:

 

OT: Been a month since that Vogue cover :rip:

20 minutes ago, MrLovett said:

What is it with this forum and just making things up and telling yourself it's a fact? :rip: The last time she had a multi-week solo top 10 was "Sweet Dreams" in 2009 ffs. I'm going to need you all to get a grip, because these delusions are not it.

I'm legit confused lol 

 

Chart wise, this is her most successful single in a long time :rip:

 

 

I'll totally switch sides if they botch the actual arrival of the album...

 

BUT

 

It's essentially a certainty that there is an avalanche of ish coming. I'd put bets on some stuff being so epic that we could have never anticipated. 

 

I also think they have to stretch the anticipation. Had we got all the covers at once or the alternate covers close to the real cover, I truly think some stuff would cannibalise. She's event-izing every moment. Big or small. 

 

Not dropping the video alongside the song was a choice, but I am convinced they want to maximize her first week SPS considering that video views now count towards album sales.

 

On this particular point, we can't have our cake and eat it too (well, we can, but I digress). I'm sure her team have all the data and if it makes most sense to use the video for album sales (which alongside touring is her ever and always end-goal) then I'm for it. Especially with the song still doing well and sitting nicely in the top 10. I know I'd much rather the album does well than fret and complain about a song that's already a certified top 10 and one that's likely to dominate even more over the summer. 

 

IMO, here's what's likely to happen:

 

* Like others have said, they will probably condense the remaining reveals into a short space of time. Similar to that big burst in the run-up to the album announcement, the announcement itself, and the BMS launch. All happened within a week. 

 

* BMS video will drop anytime between now and day of release. It will continue to be the vehicle song that drives the album (probably the only standalone video for a minute) until the numbers dictate the next song to focus on. 

 

* There will absolutely be a Netflix something to tie-in with the album. Expecting the trailer any moment.

 

* I'm anticipating something experiential. Could be the pop-ups, could be something else. 

 

* Wouldn't be far-fetched of her to do live-streamed one-off shows much like Harry and Adele. It's the one area I could see Tidal creeping in (and hope it doesn't). Either go with a TV network, Netflix, or something buzzy and in like TikTok.

 

To some, it may all read like conjecture. But it's all totally plausible and exciting to me. Which is why I will never get the doom and gloom about not having BMS video (yet) or that there's no announcements (yet) when there are so many great possibilities just a few weeks away. 

Welcome to the anti-Beyoncé base, post what you hate most about her?

 

I'll start:

 

She's never allowed me to grow my hair after the first scalping :jonnycat:

 

How has no one mentioned that Eminem has announced his album release the week after RENAISSANCE? I guess that kills the multi-week #1 hopes. :ace:

3 minutes ago, MrLovett said:

 

How has no one mentioned that Eminem has announced his album release the week after RENAISSANCE? I guess that kills the multi-week #1 hopes. :ace:

It's a greatest hits. Still poses a threat, but not massively. 

Its been 3 Tuesdays and 3 Fridays since BMS dropped, but hey, we got Ivytopia

 

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11 minutes ago, Cbreezy said:

It's a greatest hits. Still poses a threat, but not massively. 

True. Hopefully Renaissance is enough of a smash to overcome.

Naughty Girl/Blow/Sweet Dreams should actually be on the tour I wouldn’t mind that getting rehashed:giraffe: I need her to breathe new life into ha old songs I want the tour to be a giant dance club EXPERIENCE:giraffe:

I want to post in here to celebrate the coming of the Beyonce Renaissance, and I wish I had something of substance to offer.  I just don't.  

 

It's coming in 18 days!  There.  I did it!

 

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24 minutes ago, MrLovett said:

 

How has no one mentioned that Eminem has announced his album release the week after RENAISSANCE? I guess that kills the multi-week #1 hopes. :ace:

Let’s just be thankful it wasn’t 7/29 :rip: 

25 minutes ago, MrLovett said:

 

How has no one mentioned that Eminem has announced his album release the week after RENAISSANCE? I guess that kills the multi-week #1 hopes. :ace:

Is "Walk On Water" on there? :coffee2: That's probably the only stream it will receive from me. 

36 minutes ago, *-ChriZ-* said:

Its been 3 Tuesdays and 3 Fridays since BMS dropped, but hey, we got Ivytopia

 

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Maybe we gotta wait 4 Tuesdays and 4 Fridays. 

 

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Just now, Golden said:

Maybe we gotta wait 4 Tuesdays and 4 Fridays. 

 

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Uh didnt even think about that. Maybe we are onto sth

 

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They meant Tuesday Friday Tuesday next year. Tour dates maybe. Is the Stade de France booked on every Tuesday next year, let's look

 

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24 minutes ago, MrLovett said:

 

How has no one mentioned that Eminem has announced his album release the week after RENAISSANCE? I guess that kills the multi-week #1 hopes. :ace:

Let’s just be thankful it wasn’t 7/29 :rip: 

The silence :rip: I’m embarrassed on behalf of her team. This has got to be the worst rollout I’ve ever seen. 

 

Started off really well though :chick1:

4 minutes ago, family.guy123 said:

how would we feel if black parade, savage remix, be alive, sorry not sorry are on renaissance

I would throw up in disgust

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