I can't wait for the track list. If it drops with a (feat. Dolly Parton)  

6 minutes ago, chaeyonce said:

There is no amount of promo that will make her sell or get streams like Taylor 

I know it's challenging for some to understand especially in this social media day and age but numbers aren't the only way to make a mark

She could've easily had a couple of extra #1s from the Ren era if she cared and the era as a whole could've been really huge if she wanted

 

I just feel that the impact of her reclaiming genres would've been even stronger if she could've really made the effort to dominate

 

I know numbers aren't everything, but the GP and even ATRL consider things to be bigger and more meaningful. Hell, even Beyonce herself seemingly thinks her amazing work would be more valid if the Grammys accepted it.

 

A lot of people consider things that don't matter like numbers or awards as a reason for why something is bigger/better or more impactful/special.

 

So in the sense of reclaiming genres that white people have gotten more success for over the years, I just think it would've been more special had she went all out more.

Edited February 12, 20242 yr by Saintlor

20 minutes ago, Saintlor said:

One thing I'm not understanding about her... if the thing about her reclaiming genres invented by black people is true (and I think this theory is true)

 

Why isn't she promoting, releasing loads of videos and going all-out more? If she is reclaiming, shouldn't she be going all out with promo and performances to make the point of being more successful than white people who sing the genres she is reclaiming? 

I don't think she means to reclaim them forcibly, shoving her work in front of people's faces. Her work has long been a litmus test for culture where people's true feelings come out by her mere presence in a genre, and that seems more what she intended to do.

 

Also it's been one day since new music was released.

Well, that was an exciting 24 hours.

Ad was beautifully done and somehow felt down to earth despite the entire premise relying on the fact she is this massive powerhouse that breaks the internet. 

Looks are insane, she is looking more beautiful than ever.

Promotion, all at once, with the only misstep being the lack of pre-order to capitalise on the initial hype, is pretty surprising for Bey in 2024.

16 Carriages is the instant click for me. Loved it first listen and it only gets better with each listen. One of those songs where every new layer and bit of song progression causes chills, on top of chills.

Texas didn't hit at first for me. This is exactly how I felt with BMS. Already, it is growing on me. I will say, if it wasn't Bey I wouldn't of returned to listen again but here we are, and we BOPPING.

I am super grateful for another 16 track album. I found the lead up to Ren really exciting, even if we only got crumbs in between announcement and launch, so the next few weeks will be great.

Absolutely love both tracks.

 

my only criticism of 16 carriages is that the amount of runs are a bit distracting in some of her delivery. 
 

gorgeous overall though and honestly cannot wait for this album. 
 

she really has not served anything less than stellar quality since 4. 

 

3 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said:

The two song drop does have my clown mind wondering about SNL

She showed a lot of personality in that commercial and seemed more comfortable/natural with it than she’s ever did before (I think the Ren tour helped). My mind went to the same place though. Especially since she has a hair care line to sell. If she doesn’t want anymore of her business ventures to flop, she should really consider being more personable and book gigs like SNL. 

 

We need some tik tokers to make a line dance for Texas Hold Em, this is a hit

1 minute ago, Saintlor said:

She could've easily had a couple of extra #1s from the Ren era if she cared and the era as a whole could've been really huge if she wanted

 

I just feel that the impact of her reclaiming genres would've been even stronger if she could've really made the effort to dominate

 

I know numbers aren't everything, but the GP and even ATRL consider things to be bigger and more meaningful. Hell, even Beyonce herself seemingly thinks her amazing work would be more valid if the Grammys accepted it.

 

A lot of people consider things that don't matter like numbers or awards as a reason for why something is bigger/better or more impactful/special.

But Bey also sells her brand as luxury, which per definition is "not for everybody". Sure, she could have more hits, more streams, but what exactly does that matter in her career when shes breaking barriers left and right for women of color in the industry? Shes as legendary as can be, now shes using her platform to really move things differently and make it easier for the ones coming after her. She wants new women of color to be able to pick any genre they want, to be valued, to be celebrated.

 

This is so much more powerful than a few more streams by white teenage girls 

Here we go

 

3 hours ago, cuteboyzay said:

I seriously feel like Beyoncé is trying to make History and CONTROVERSY with this album. Have y’all not seen the obvious rise in racism and misogyny within the last year alone? Beyoncé knows her doing Country was and is going to start some sh*t. Hence also the reason why she literally just did a SUPERBOWL COMMERCIALLL for it lmao! I genuinely see Beyoncé doing something historic with this album and I’m kinda scared ngl, but I just knoowww she’s gonna eat DOWWNNN!!! 

Feels like 2016 all over again and guess what appeared in the commercial? The 'Lemonade' B.

at the very least if we get nothing else, we will (should) be getting a new album art before the launch.

 

I wonder if this time she will release videos ahead of time.

We got into this mess already assuming that BMS video would come out later that week, but somehow I'm still hoping that Friday (first full tracking week) has at least one video. Probably [absolutely] not though.

 

 

But like, is it me or does she display more relatability and vulnerability already with act2? For whatever reason, this feels closer to her soul and core than Rennie, which feels closer to Sasha.

5 minutes ago, Saintlor said:

She could've easily had a couple of extra #1s from the Ren era if she cared and the era as a whole could've been really huge if she wanted

 

I just feel that the impact of her reclaiming genres would've been even stronger if she could've really made the effort to dominate

 

I know numbers aren't everything, but the GP and even ATRL consider things to be bigger and more meaningful. Hell, even Beyonce herself seemingly thinks her amazing work would be more valid if the Grammys accepted it.

 

A lot of people consider things that don't matter like numbers or awards as a reason for why something is bigger/better or more impactful/special.

 

So in the sense of reclaiming genres that white people have gotten more success for over the years, I just think it would've been more special had she went all out more.

I think that where she is personally plays a role. She probably would have gone harder earlier in her career but now with the kids and the family life?

I think she just doesn't enjoy promoting as much, she still loves making music, performing, etc. But her eras are shorter.

 

so we making this #1 on BBH100 the week of like how we did BMS? 

 

3 minutes ago, BGKC said:

 

She showed a lot of personality in that commercial and seemed more comfortable/natural with it than she’s ever did before (I think the Ren tour helped). My mind went to the same place though. Especially since she has a hair care line to sell. If she doesn’t want anymore of her business ventures to flop, she should really consider being more personable and book gigs like SNL. 

 

I'm not sure she's hosting material if I'm being honest. But being the musical guest and showing up in a skit with Mya Rudolph as her would be cute.

4 minutes ago, V$. said:

 

 

 

LETS GO!!! RUN THESE REQUESTS UP!

44 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said:

It would be smart to go ahead and capitalize on the hype.

 

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This might be the best she's ever looked.

in before miss @AxelFox replies with some bull about RWT Stockholm Night 1 

 

you WILL eat up this platinum serve miss axel or else 

 

 

how far part was BMS and the rennie's release date?

 

Oh she mustve missed performing like this

 

 

 

Just now, Lovett said:

 

Lemonade ha revenge, ugh this is literally perfect

 

Just now, ToraeGilt said:

how far part was BMS and the rennie's release date?

BMS - June 20

Renaissance - July 29

 

THM - February 11

Act II - March 29

 

47 days between this time, 39 last time.

8 minutes ago, Devin said:

so we making this #1 on BBH100 the week of like how we did BMS? 

 

BMS at #1 was fueled strongly by radio… I don’t think this will be played as much as easily digestible BMS. 
 

If anything I think the debut will be the best chance at it being #1, hope I’m wrong though. 

Have we talked about Nadia Lee Cohen posting it and saying "Coming Soon."