Didn't really like anything from Joanne besides maybe Dancin' In Circles. I enjoyed Alice and Sour Candy a lot from Chromatica. I say Chromatica is the better album but it suffered from poor production

Can we talk about how both albums had terrible singles. Some of the worst songs from each album were chosen as singles. Diamond Heart and Dancin' In Circles should've been singles from Joanne and Alice and Sour Candy should've been singles from Chromatica

Alice - Diamond Heart

Stupid Love - A-Yo

Rain on Me - Joanne

Free Woman - John Wayne

Fun Tonight - Dancin' in Circles (neither to make up for the SL - A-Yo double discography top 20 slay)

911 - Perfect Illusion

Plastic Doll - Million Reasons

Sour Candy - Sinners Prayer

Enigma - Come To Mama

Replay - Hey Girl

Sine From Above - Angel Down 

1000 Doves - Grigio Girls

Babylon - Just Another Day

Edited November 5, 20241 yr by Sheep

Just now, Kanye West said:

Can we talk about how both albums had terrible singles. Some of the worst songs from each album were chosen as singles. Diamond Heart and Dancin' In Circles should've been singles from Joanne and Alice and Sour Candy should've been singles from Chromatica

Rain On Me was good what are you talking about. And Million Reasons is good too. The leads however. 

 

 

Chromatica

Alice - Diamond Heart

Stupid Love - A-Yo

Rain on Me - Joanne

Free Woman - John Wayne

Fun Tonight - Dancin' in Circles (neither to make up for the SL - A-Yo double discography top 20 slay)

911 - Perfect Illusion

Plastic Doll - Million Reasons

Sour Candy - Sinners Prayer

Enigma - Come To Mama

Replay - Hey Girl

Sine From Above - Angel Down 

1000 Doves - Grigio Girls

Babylon - Just Another Day

Replay alone clears all of joan 

Alice - Diamond Heart

Stupid Love - A-Yo

Rain on Me - Joanne

Free Woman - John Wayne

Fun Tonight - Dancin' in Circles

911 - Perfect Illusion

Plastic Doll - Million Reasons

Sour Candy - Sinners Prayer

Enigma - Come To Mama

Replay - Hey Girl

Sine From Above - Angel Down 

1000 Doves - Grigio Girls

Babylon - Just Another Day

 

C - 5

J - 8

Alice - Diamond Heart

Stupid Love - A-Yo

Rain on Me - Joanne

Free Woman - John Wayne

Fun Tonight - Dancin' in Circles

911 - Perfect Illusion

Plastic Doll - Million Reasons / both are BAD tho 

Sour Candy - Sinners Prayer

Enigma - Come To Mama

Replay - Hey Girl

Sine From Above - Angel Down 

1000 Doves - Grigio Girls

Babylon - Just Another Day / LOVE both tho

 

Chromatica won since is the better album, but I still love Joanne  both are so underrated imo

chromatica sweetie...

They're both mid and not true to heart albums. I'd have to go with Datedmatica because of the bops that are scattered, though the whole albums gives May 2020 in the worst way, while Joanne gives 2016 election cycle in a laughable way.

Joanne is one of the weakest albums ever released by a major pop artisté. Chromatica is great, although simple.

 

Dancin' In Circles is terrible and I lol when little managers say it should've been a single/would've been a hit

5 minutes ago, americanlife said:

They're both mid and not true to heart albums. I'd have to go with Datedmatica because of the bops that are scattered, though the whole albums gives May 2020 in the worst way, while Joanne gives 2016 election cycle in a laughable way.

They were released exactly during those times though?

30 minutes ago, Doctor Dick said:

Rain On Me was good what are you talking about. And Million Reasons is good too. The leads however. 

 

 

Rain On Me is fine but forgettable. Million Reasons is just terrible

 

3 minutes ago, Kevin Parker said:

Dancin' In Circles is terrible and I lol when little managers say it should've been a single/would've been a hit

Dancin' In Circles is the best song on Joanne. It deserved to be a single, even if it wouldn't have been a hit, although I'd argue nothing on that album sounds like a hit. It's the standout on the album

I go back more often on Chromatica but Joanne is not the disaster as some say, there is some really good songs in it 

Joanne is more cohesive and stronger. PI and MR are great singles too. Should have pushed diamond heart as another single. 

39 minutes ago, americanlife said:

They're both mid and not true to heart albums. I'd have to go with Datedmatica because of the bops that are scattered, though the whole albums gives May 2020 in the worst way, while Joanne gives 2016 election cycle in a laughable way.

you're onto something here 

 

OT: I really like both, but i feel that Joanne is more "mid" in the sense that chromatica has higher highs and waaaaaay, way lower lows, while Joanne is more consistent as a whole, if that makes sense.

 

I like Joanne, i think it's a great, raw album and there's not one song that I hate there. While Chromatica has songs that i loved at the time, it has songs that i HATE, like 

Free Woman (tks Rina for an almost good version of the song, the demo still eats tho), Fun Tonight (tks Pabllo for the listenable version of the song), Plastic Doll (sounds like someone tried to recreate a song from The Fame by memory) and 1000 Doves.

Alice vs. Diamond Heart

Stupid Love vs. A-YO

Rain on Me vs. Joanne

Free Woman vs. John Wayne

Fun Tonight vs. Dancin' in Circles

911 vs. Perfect Illusion

Plastic Doll vs. Million Reasons 

Sour Candy vs. Sinners Prayer

Enigma vs. Come To Mama

Replay vs. Hey Girl

Sine From Above vs. Angel Down 

1000 Doves vs. Grigio Girls

Babylon vs. Just Another Day

 

Chromatica - 7

Joanne - 5

Tie - 1

Both are unlistenable but Joanne has John Wayne at least

Alice - Diamond Heart

Stupid Love - A-Yo

Rain on Me - Joanne

Free Woman - John Wayne

Fun Tonight - Dancin' in Circles 

911 - Perfect Illusion

Plastic Doll - Million Reasons

Sour Candy - Sinners Prayer (This western bop is my fave song from Joanne)

Enigma - Come To Mama

Replay (This Dark Bop is my Fave from Chromatica) - Hey Girl

Sine From Above - Angel Down 

1000 Doves - Grigio Girls

Babylon - Just Another Day (Tie)

Hmm Definitely Chromatica is the better album 


I give Joanne a 3.8 and Chromatica a 4.2

Edited November 5, 20241 yr by AvadaKedavra

1 hour ago, Kanye West said:

Rain On Me is fine but forgettable. Million Reasons is just terrible

 

Dancin' In Circles is the best song on Joanne. It deserved to be a single, even if it wouldn't have been a hit, although I'd argue nothing on that album sounds like a hit. It's the standout on the album

How is it the standout of the album when it has nothing to do with its core sound or theme? And I ask this genuinely and politely, not in a shady "I'm right" way. To me the best song on Joanne is easily the title track; great vocals, musicianship, lyrics and melody.

I'm actually a big Joanne fan.

 

Chromatica: 6

Joanne: 7

 

Alice - Diamond Heart

Stupid Love - A-Yo

Rain on Me - Joanne

Free Woman - John Wayne

Fun Tonight - Dancin' in Circles 

911 - Perfect Illusion

Plastic Doll - Million Reasons

Sour Candy - Sinners Prayer

Enigma - Come To Mama

Replay - Hey Girl

Sine From Above - Angel Down 

1000 Doves - Grigio Girls

Babylon - Just Another Day

 

 

Edited November 5, 20241 yr by Gladiator

Chromatica obvi. But it's still only a 7.5/10. I've been waiting for GaGa to release another truly great album for over a decade. 

ARTPOP is better than both but the world gave Gaga hell for it. 

But ATRLers do too much with both of these albums.

They're not that bad even if they're not that great either. Disease feels like a victory after coming from these if we are keeping it real.