AvadaKedavra
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I been gettin annoying. I need to take a small break from here
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Why did Karol G fail to crossover to non-Spanish speaking markets?
Just listened to the song and i agree with you. not groundbreakin Bruno was giving her scraps. Die with a smile is miles better. The Drake one is hot. But i can see why bb woah took off. That feat is nice. the afrobeat La de drake mas predecible y las otras son mejores. Karola no supo como usarlo.
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Which Gaga aesthetic has been your favorite / least favorite?
I love all of them but my fave is debut Love the celebrity,fame,luxury,tech,pop culture,urban,glam thing goin in that first era My second favorite one is probably chromatica. I just love the warrior space cyberpunk Now the worst to me: Joanne It was too stripped from everything. Not a fan of her hairstyles-makeup-fashion in that era too Loved the era but gaga is better when she goes maximalist. Thats her signature thing. She's too incredible to be a "simpleton" type of artist. We have some gen z industry plants if we want a popgirl to serve nothing It would be a waste of her talent to go 100% minimal in the future I dont mind another laidback-softer era tho like asib-joanne. As long as is just a thing from time to time But yes give me crazy gaga mostly
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Why did Karol G fail to crossover to non-Spanish speaking markets?
Thank you. That was my point. You worded things as a i wanted pikacha Shakira is a musical biblioteque. She was also a perfectionist bakin her english songs. She worked long hours and days for them Karol G likes so many things but i think she's less attached to international music She has expertise in her urban genre. She's more in touch with latino tastes. She's from the barrios de medallo If karol g english songs are not workin i think this is mostly bruno-drake fault. They should be the ones guiding her as a newbie in the anglosphere Lemme listen her english songs again to judge*
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Why did Karol G fail to crossover to non-Spanish speaking markets?
She's making songs for her Latino audience, translating them into English, and trying to have the same success. Like that English Papasito song. That's not really how things work in the U.S. You have to make songs as if they were born to appeal to American or global audiences, like Shakira did with "Objection," "Hips Don't Lie," or "She Wolf." You have to look at it from an American point of view. Not from a latinoamerican one. I also feel like, to make really good songs in English, you need a masterful level of English. I don't know how Shakira did it, but she conquered English really fast. You compare her English from Dónde Están Los Ladrones? to "Laundry Service" and you're like, HOW? Maybe she got the best teachers in the world or is cause shakira is gifted with really high IQ. I think for Karol G, English is more of a tool than a lifestyle. She's too attached to latinidad. Karol G's influences are mostly Latino and Spanish-speaking. She loves Selena Quintanilla and Thalía. Shakira has been a big fan of Donna Summer, '70s and '80s rock, etc. Shakira grew up more in touch with American culture-Anglo tastes I also feel like it's really challenging to write songs in English as a non-native speaker. Like I said in one of my past threads, there's a mental/neural inability to feel English the same way a native speaker does. I can write a song, but I don't know if it will actually work. I feel them different in my brain-ears-cognition. Writing in a different language to your native with proficient level.....It's like baking a cake with your eyes closed. If she were a native English speaker, I'm totally sure she would be able to make some nice english songs.
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Tinashe on the genre of pop: "it's very white and it's very contrived."
When she released player and some of her joyride singles i remember so many people shitting on her cause she changed genres so many just dropped her cause she went "poppier" and i was really angry. One of the reasons why she didnt take off back then Are not black pop singers allowed to do pop music??? Why do they have to be attached to the alternative or r&b label exclusively all the time???? glad she's doin the popstar thing in her own terms Pop is many things. Diverse. Ecletic. Iconic. There's artistry there too the album cover of her new record is very pop too Our fave black popstar
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Was Miley Cyrus having a manic episode
I think that album was a reflection of her bad mental state and messiest time of her life It was escapism to a surreal reality Breakin up with liam She was mocked all over the world. Seen as chaotic,cringe and appropiator Her Pets died Family collapsed (Billie-Tish feuds and divorce-Brothers feeling shame or envy about her) Excess Drugs and alcohol was her way to cope with that Its definitely her darkest record ever When pop singers talk about psychedelic record. This is how you make a psychedelic record
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MILEY - 'Bass Persuades'
Everyone's ranking her records? Lemme add mine Objectively i think Something Beautiful and Plastic Hearts are her best records ever But in Personal way (Takin in account life experiences,memories,the album suiting my persona the best) My Ranking from most favorite to least favorite:
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Beyoncé looks sensational at JAŸ-Z's HBO series premiere
So regal as usual. She has that royalty vibe Wheres the album
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Spotify | Miley Cyrus - Bass Persuades (Album) | Day 2: 3,674,708 streams
Something beautiful was a mistake. Ruined her momentum
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MILEY - 'Bass Persuades'
Hope she doesn't get discouraged from releasing music because pop fans and pop critics are meanies She's one of the only pop girls giving us tons of new content without long breaks I would be sad-heartbroken if she retires or something I loved this album, and that's all that matters to me better than i expected I hope people here just pay no mind and enjoy it, and be happy that we have new music. Have the best times of your life with this music NOW in a more critical tone. With the eyes of a record label executive lol: In my opinion, this EDM/electronic direction isn't the right suit for her in this moment. People don't want that from her. I tried to fake it with "Bass Persuades" because I always fake *** to support my artists when they release lead singles, but I was concerned about the song's genre and video. She was repeating the "River" mistakes. I was like.......Damn this is gonna have a hard time to rise*** In my opinion, miley should go for something urban (but classy), rock again, or maybe try the country/folky lane. I feel the same about Demi, Ariana, and Katy. Looks like stans don't want dance or synthpop songs from them???? They don't want more straight club records from them??? Urban or Rock for Demi Next R&B urban Ariana, Maybe something y2k, 90s or explore new genre territories again and from Katy they want more edge-to show evolution......... Same as Taylor. If she comes back with another predictable synthpop album she's done artistry wise* Its time for something deeper or new
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The Depression Lounge
My dad has surgery tomorrow to extract a kidney stone and im so scared i feel like crying. In these two months like more than bad 20 things-events happened to us. From an easier really peaceful endless summer vacation batch of years 2022-2025 to struggle really bad this year 2026 Life is of course not perfect and this is one of those years where your on your way down to the roller coaser im glad i have atrl to erase my stress but is like damn...... Just venting a bit Also sending healing to everyone here. Hope things get better for you all and the stars shine again or for the first time
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I like to bother Karol fans from time to time, but she's the only female artist Shakira has as real competition and the only one with real staying power in LatAm. And that's for a reason. That's not easy to achieve.
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Karol G's performing skills questioned as she struggles to keep up with her dancers
A lot of people in the stan world don't know that Shaki did gymnastics when she was a child. She also loved makin dresses and playing thieves-police with her neighboors in her hometown Sadly all those old interviews are gone from the internet but i used to collect the extracts..... She was a very sporty kid I think that's one of the reasons why she's so flexible-elastic today. That training definitely helped her. If I'm not wrong, Zara Larsson also did gymnastics or ballet, and that's probably one of the reasons why she's such a good dancer compared to so many of her white gen z peers. If you want your kid to be a great performer, get them into gymnastics or ballet or dancing classes early
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We discuss with @unclefloprry @BerlinBaddy all the time but i really like them. Theyre so funny. Love to both Long live to Bunny,Karol and Shak
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Karol G's performing skills questioned as she struggles to keep up with her dancers
I give her props-hooray for trying, but she doesn't have the pedigree, the vernacular, the catalogue, the coin.
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Zara Larsson pulls out of Abu Dhabi concert after backlash
The European Beyonce-Shakira The future of pop music
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Shakira's new single tanking. Why?
Maluma and J Balvin and Rauw and all the old reggaetoneros lost their ability-touch to get hits, or maybe the new generations just stopped caring about them. 'Cause it's insane how such a high number of them just faded away so fast. Something I wonder about every day is... don't they get worried about their lack of traction now???? 'Cause you look at their numbers on Kworb compared to their old numbers and theyre abysmal, their success is really small now. Maluma even bought his own private airplane? How does he afford that? Maluma is clearly trying to have a comeback but sadly i dont see it for him Bunny and Karol G have the greatest marketing teams in the latino industry, are Gen Z fave artists, and are reggaetoneros and young. And theyre ambitious i give them that. They dont give up with their eras. Looks like they have parasocial fanbases too sadly Shaki is just doing random collabs for fun, and she's with Sony Latin (worst label ever) (Te odiamos afo verde), and doesn't even care about playlisting payola tricks anymore. If she feels like it, she'll be back on top even with ageism (Shakira is turning 50) Dai Dai and Zoo did well cause they were good songs. First of all culebras. Se me ubican ñiñas I only know one thing, and it's... Shakira is like Madonna. The pioneer. The one with Ricky Martin-Enrique You can't delete that from the history books. Otros seran los segundones. Las mustias. She opened the doors for these newbies to have hits. She destroyed the gatekeepers. Daddy yankee specially for reggaeton artists Shaki career was all built on hard work clean money. Not everyone has that
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Which Madonna album in the 80s is her most important project?
True Blue for commercial power. It showed she was able to transition to something more mature and deeper without losing her young fanbase. And Like a Prayer for credibility She showed there was actually meaning behind her persona. If i were a popgirl i would copy her steps or the taylor ones
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MILEY - 'Bass Persuades'
Even with midperformances she's a better vocalist,dancer, songwriter than the guy from your avi writer of songs about poop and licking ass " Ey, le doy por donde hace pipi, por donde hace popo" "Ey, si tu novio no te mama el culo, para eso que no mames, baja para casa que yo te lambo toda" Ay intima cotorra no te hemos vuelto a ver en la shakifanbase. Que pasa haha. Asustada por el exito de Agua? Whats good!
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MILEY - 'Bass Persuades'
I feel the same. I love all her albums. They all have something special and i love how ecletic is her discography now Younger Now has some beautiful songs, but it definitely needed a better team or better producers-Guiding Nothing against Oren, but he was mainly an urban/hip-hop producer. He didn't have the range to guide-direct a whole country record. She needed proper Nashville producers or someone like Mark Ronson for Younger Now This is one of the reasons why i want a new country pop,folk, western,americana record from her. I think she can bake maybe a masterpiece with all her maturity-knowledge-expertise today and raspy voice It would be a good way to honor dolly too........ Producers are everything sometimes Like Dua Lipa working with Kevin Parker. His track record with pop songs was very tragic and we all know what happened with that record...lol Or Jack Antonoff, the most Rice Krispies, milquetoast producer, making a record for Doja Cat, one of the hottest urban-pop artists out there. Failure In the opposite you have a Andrew Watt. I know miley hates him but he's so good with electro rock songs He was perfect suit for Plastic Hearts I really appreciate miley boyfriend max and harpoon but i think it would be nice if miley works with new people next time Would love a record with Mike Will Made. Loved Violet Chemistry
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Is pop culture the least exciting it's ever been?
Like I said in my last thread, similar to yours hennie............ Synthpop is gettin' stale. Let's move on from that, girlies. So many of these synthpop albums are so safe, and it feels like every trick has already been pulled with them. They're not reinventing the wheel. Specially taylor. Enough is Enough with the heavy Synthpop records This country MAGA trend thing needs to be over too. Enough with them infesting the charts lmfao. They're boring and problematic af. White people in the USA can do better than that. Go back to that cool pop-punk/alt-rock thing lol, or do something new. Trip hop. I dont know lol I also feel like the charts should maybe take a more urban, exotic, and hot direction for 1–2 years. Or just dive deep into the Y2K bubblegum Max Martin/Cheiron sound. We need Rihanna to come back, or new Black pop girls debuting. I honestly feel the lack of them on the charts. Theyre so needed right now I was rooting for the beautiful tyla but looks like she's too disliked by american audiences sadly This first half of the decade has been too loaded with dance-pop in the shape of disco, synthwave, synthpop, hyperpop, electroclash, etc. And the songwriting shtick is gettin' boring too. Taylor and Charli XCX are both mocked, but they definitely pioneered some sort of sound, and so many artists have been trying to copy them this decade. I think it's time to move away from the dance-pop records and the songwriter a bit.... Something different. Lets move from the industry plants too and nepobabies Insert gif: Can you come up with something else? Can you come up with something else? These upcoming artists with records coming next year/in 2028 better shake things up: I have hope : Zara, Sabrina, Chappell?, Dua Lipa, Doja Cat?, Rina, Beyoncé, Tate, Billie?, Taylor, Shakira, Kesha, Rihanna, Adele?, Katy, Avril, Demi again?, Xtina, Kelly Clarkson, P!nk ...........and more. maybe once trump loses his midterms everyone will be happier and stuff........and it will lead to something cooler??? for now we are in a desert mainstream wise with only some really hot records and eras like the madonna-hilary duff one Music is like life. exciting times. slow times. Like a Wave lol
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Zara Larsson pulls out of Abu Dhabi concert after backlash
Feel bad for the gays in the Middle East. Every time a pop singer wants performs there, they're blocked by someone outraged in the West and their circus But those people are very selective with their outrage. They only seem to be outraged about certain specific countries while being complicit with so many dictatorships and their abhorrent leaders I get if youre angry about private parties for billionaries there. Thats valid but when it comes to events. The gp and citizens from there deserve concerts too i was sad when Shakira cancelled all her middle east concerts because the war-iran situation turning real bad They were all so excited on twitter. Broke my heart.
- Zara Larsson - "Blue Moon"
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Why do the gays support Troye but not MNEK?
MNEK is very talented as producer, but he gives me mean-girl Regina vibes after watching Zara's documentary lmfao. One time i wanted to message him and i was scared cause he only likes like shady messages-messy ones from fans Troye has gay fans? I thought he was mostly supported by female fans. I think it's definitely fatphobia. I have a Grindr profile where I state that I'm fat and lookin for friends. 0 messages. Days have passed and still 0 messages. Only views. One day, I put up some pics with some muscles added with the help of AI, and my feed was filled with 100+ messages from guys looking for something-friendship Answering the question Cause gheys are evil