with james ford in music industry...girl...

44 minutes ago, ThomasTea said:

What I don't understand is, if y'all hate her so much and desperately want her to flop, why do you keep making and interacting with the mass posting?

 

Surely a better way to uplift Kesha would to actually talk about her music and stream/buy it.

Because it has actually nothing to do with Katy. Many of us like(d) Katy. It has all to do with Luke and that he's an accused rapist who should be a pariah in female pop. 

Katy is only involved because she herself chose to involve herself by working with someone many pop fans reasonably want protested and banned from pop music.

 

As someone who doesn't hate women, I don't want to see Dr. Luke allowed in the industry. I want someone who harbors violence for women to suffer for their actions. I want him to be a pariah and people to be embarrassed to be associated with him. I want the reality of what he did to Kesha be forever synonymous with his name. 

 

It's **** rapists every day until the end of days. And if Katy finds herself as wanting to be the one to roll out the red carpet for a rapist and put HER legacy on the line as collateral to welcome him back and re-normalize him and help him show face again, then it's unfortunately **** Katy Perry for supporting rapists too.

She knows this is her last chance to get it right, so is returning to her most successful producer, doing endless promo, high visuals etc. If this flops, she is done 

1 hour ago, applestar said:

Ya and yall spent 10 years calling her a flop i would have ran to him after say so

That tells more about you than us

51 minutes ago, shimind said:

when was the last time tik tok had more than 1 million streams on Spotify? go stream that losers 

Kesha has 2 songs doing 1M+ daily on Spotify and Katy has none.

54 minutes ago, ThomasTea said:

What I don't understand is, if y'all hate her so much and desperately want her to flop

Because that's not even the case. Most people in ATRL were rooting for her comeback until Dr. Luke was brought, he is disliked in this forum for obvious reasons

 

58 minutes ago, ThomasTea said:

Surely a better way to uplift Kesha would to actually talk about her music and stream/buy it.

What's not clicking? This isn't about 'uplifting Kesha'. This is about dragging to hell and back Dr. Luke for the trash he is, and if Katy gets dragged for working with him, she deserves it

She just needs to scrap or swap this single 

 

Dua scrapped her lead single and gave us Houdini (bop)

2 minutes ago, keshasfillers said:

Kesha has 2 songs doing 1M+ daily on Spotify and Katy has none.

2 songs produced by who?

Just now, dopamina said:

2 songs produced by who?

Her rapist who Katy Perry willingly surrounds herself with if that helps 

14 minutes ago, keshasfillers said:

Kesha has 2 songs doing 1M+ daily on Spotify and Katy has none.

 not even the "classics" from Teenage Dream??

Listening to the snippets of "Woman's World" and then Kim Petras "**** Pop Miami" Album, it strikes me how diametrically opposed the lyrical content is. It's hard to believe in any female empowerment anthem that was co-written by the same guy who wrote those Kim Petras songs.

I was gonna ask how could anyone stan someone this stupid but well…  

18 minutes ago, dopamina said:

2 songs produced by who?

The person she had a horrible and abusive contract with, she sued him later on for this main reasons in case you didn't know 

I hope the song bombs and Capitol scrambles and shelves the album. Trash. 

29 minutes ago, dopamina said:

2 songs produced by who?

Thank you for highlighting why Katy doing this is worse than imaginable because she's not even just rehabilitating a rapist - she, a female pop star, is using her music career to try and save a male music producer who raped not just another female musician but a female musician who was her friend  and who was raped by her own producer.

 

Her actions tells every other woman in the industry - Katy Perry doesn't care if men who have a powerful advantage over female musicians try to harm you.

 

No matter what harm Luke could do to not only Kesha but her career and her art, at least her telling her truth will forever remind people of the rapist Dr. Luke will go to his grave being. Kesha gets to go to bed at night knowing she did nothing wrong. Lukasz will spend his nights praying for forgiveness.

Edited June 26, 20242 yr by Communion

1 hour ago, ThomasTea said:

Surely a better way to uplift Kesha would to actually talk about her music and stream/buy it.

You don't have to like Kesha's music to support her. It's about being humane.

I don't trust any word from Dailymail, but stupid woman.

The circle jerk here 

7 hours ago, halcyonday said:

I don't trust unknown "dailymail insiders". Waiting for her to speak up. 

Honestly, her speaking up will only make it WORST. 
 

What rationale can she possibly give about working with an accused sexual predator? 
 

And she'd be even more dumb to come out and say her teamed warned her and she worked with him anyway 

Making a "female empowerment" album, let alone putting out a song called "Woman's World" with a high-profile convicted sex offender (accused by another well known pop girl) as the lead producer is literally insane.

 

I'm convinced Katy is trying to be controversial because otherwise she's just very stupid 

 

and Kesha fans are still insufferable, that'll never change

Edited June 26, 20242 yr by CottageHore

8 minutes ago, CottageHore said:

Making a "female empowerment" album, let alone putting out a song called "Woman's World" with a high-profile convicted sex offender (accused by another well known pop girl) as the lead producer is literally insane.

 

I'm convinced Katy is trying to be controversial because otherwise she's just very stupid 

 

and Kesha fans are still insufferable, that'll never change

I know is a mess but that could actually work as promo

Going against cancel culture will get you full coverage on media and streams by Trump supporters. 

12 minutes ago, CottageHore said:

and Kesha fans are still insufferable, that'll never change

She really thought it was a good idea to work with him on a song that will probably be on bubbling under chart only...

 

21 minutes ago, Digitalism said:

I know is a mess but that could actually work as promo

Going against cancel culture will get you full coverage on media and streams by Trump supporters. 

I mean controversy is only cute when there's edge to it. This is just a plain lack of morality and utter disrespect, at least in the eyes of people who know the situation. It ain't gonna fair well for her at all and even if it does, at the cost to her dignity which imo is not the tea but hey 

Why do the Kats act like there's some conspiracy against Katy to build a hate train? She had massive hype from a lot of stans prior to this. She's not a threat to anyone's faves in 2024. 

 

Sure, maybe some haters are just using Kesha's situation to drag Katy, but Kim has literally been dragged relentlessly for being Dr. Luke's puppet, not sure who's rewriting history on that. People are literally just not fans of her working with a known abuser, while making a Kidz Bop tier song about women empowerment. It's disgusting and the fact the Kats defend it with lies and strawman  arguments is gross. 

 

If you're seriously thinking that people calling Katy out is a problem, you need to reassess what stanning is for you and why you're willing to go so far as to defend an abuser for Katy Perry of all people— a past her prime pop star who has millions to never have to worry about what someone has to say. And she clearly doesn't even if it's the right thing to do as this thread's OP shows. 

5 minutes ago, CottageHore said:

I mean controversy is only cute when there's edge to it. This is just a plain lack of morality and utter disrespect, at least in the eyes of people who know the situation. It ain't gonna fair well for her at all and even if it does, at the cost to her dignity which imo is not the tea but hey 

Do you remember people during Johnny Depp's trial?
People will do a lot to defend abusers if it proves their point. And Katy is not even the abuser here. There's probably no consequence for her outside the stan world if the GP likes the songs 

Edited June 26, 20242 yr by Digitalism