48 minutes ago, stevyy said:

I blame her label/s. Janet is mismanaged and her labels are not doing anything. 

 

And still, she got millions of monthly listeners. That alone proves the quality of her legacy. 

 

 

#1992

even bella poarch has more listeners

16 minutes ago, Lover said:

#1992

even bella poarch has more listeners

a streaming era act has more listeners than Janet? Colour me shocked. 

 

If one of the biggest artists of the 80s and 90s does not adjust well to streaming, then there are outside factors at play, imo. 

 

Just 20 years ago, Janet was one of the 10 best selling female recording artist of all times. Her low streaming is artificial not natural. 

Edited January 20, 20242 yr by stevyy

17 hours ago, Afterglow said:

Yall think just because a few uncultured young gays don't know her it's 99% of the population. Expand your horizons for heavens sake!

 

OT: we know that janets career was actively sabatoged by people higher up than her. It's one of the most tragic and blatant showings of music industry racism of all time tbh. People couldn't handle a black popstar that was doing it better than literally everyone else, so once they got the chance she was blacklisted.

 

She was the biggest female popstar in the world at one point that she had the highest paying recording contract of all time.

 

Luckily now it really came out how unfair, racist and disgusting the situation was, but the damage is done. Luckily she's able to still rebuild, and has. She has a career like no other iconic pop star.

 

While we're at it, since this is a pop forum go stream her iconic discography. If you haven't heard:

 

Someone To Call My Lover (the most effervescent pop song of all time)

All Nite (Don't Stop)

Trust a Try

Lonely

Feedback

Just a Little While

Runaway

Escapade (so ****** good)

The Velvet Rope 

Throb

 

Those are just off the top of my head, stream them. Her full catalog is just so good with no filler. She takes so many risks, always reinventing. No credit. It's so hard for black women.

 

All of this.

 

You can literally pick almost any song from her first five albums and it’ll be a 10/10. Her discography is simply unmatched

5 hours ago, stevyy said:

a streaming era act has more listeners than Janet? Colour me shocked. 

 

If one of the biggest artists of the 80s and 90s does not adjust well to streaming, then there are outside factors at play, imo. 

 

Just 20 years ago, Janet was one of the 10 best selling female recording artist of all times. Her low streaming is artificial not natural. 

it's ageism and misogyny

On 1/18/2024 at 8:37 AM, Jjang said:

this generation’s loss tbh 

Literally, I got into her last year and I've never been the same since, Damita Jo is my drug 

Streaming has no class, I guess

 

I’m not really convinced that it has to do with her music being too RnB?? Janet is a lot more pop in comparison to Mary J and Toni Braxton. 

 

I would say Janet’s music is just as ‘black’ as Destiny’s Child and Beyoncé, yet they have managed to garner globally remembered classics unlike Janet

The thing is, her discography is so spectacular that there will be a viral resurgence and rediscovery at some point. It's just a matter of time.

Edited January 20, 20242 yr by DammnBaby

Don’t y’all get tired of disrespecting Janet for no reason 

It's a combo of the Superbowl incident negatively affecting her legacy and the lack of effort put forward by her team to push her on streaming. Like her Youtube page is still such a mess and I don't think she gets pushed too much on streaming playlists which would probably help her numbers a bit.

Because she's only got a few global hits/universally known hits.

 

All for You, Everytime, Together Again, Again...

Edited January 20, 20242 yr by charot

11 hours ago, stevyy said:

Her low streaming is artificial not natural. 

Another ATRL hit thread where ATRLers are circlejerking her on impact, legacy and unfortunate incident that tarnished her commercial success. Janet remains unbothered with her acclaimed artistic RnB-pop music, rich impact and legacy. Without her presence and domination, most of your pop faves wouldn't exist and inspired to make music and become live performers like Janet.

 

Her material is always available for anyone to explore and consume. If you heard about Janet and choose not to give her discography a try, that's your choice. But don't come here then talking trash.

 

 

Maybe her stans that witnessed her slayage replay her stuff in other ways. There’s different ways of enjoying music. Her stans actually went out the house to buy the album and it was like a whole mission to them. Nowadays you can have it all in seconds and it doesn’t seem like she’s interested in appealing to a younger demographic anyway so… I mean, she’s still touring meanwhile Nicki’s last tour got cancelled. It’s all about perspective 

She needs to do some positioning work to appeal to a younger audience. Maybe sell or license her library?

24 minutes ago, BryceG said:

She needs to do some positioning work to appeal to a younger audience. Maybe sell or license her library?

God no. I hope she will never do that. Thank God she also doesn't need the money. 

 

She was worth over $200 million before her divorce from that billionaire. 

11 hours ago, stevyy said:

God no. I hope she will never do that. Thank God she also doesn't need the money. 

 

She was worth over $200 million before her divorce from that billionaire. 

It’s not always about the money.
 

If you care about reaching more people with your music, signing a deal can be a way to ensure it.

Let's be real, the goalpost and benchmark of success is always being moved with Janet and some of you...she's achieved a lot of success and somehow streaming numbers are the only determination of her legacy. It's laughable. 

 

On 1/20/2024 at 2:21 PM, Jump said:

I’m not really convinced that it has to do with her music being too RnB?? Janet is a lot more pop in comparison to Mary J and Toni Braxton. 

 

I would say Janet’s music is just as ‘black’ as Destiny’s Child and Beyoncé, yet they have managed to garner globally remembered classics unlike Janet

Not a factor. 

 

On 1/20/2024 at 4:00 PM, suburbannature said:

Don’t y’all get tired of disrespecting Janet for no reason 

Anything that will make their faves look more impactful than Janet is like an orgasm. 

 

On 1/20/2024 at 5:39 PM, Bloodflowers. said:

Another ATRL hit thread where ATRLers are circlejerking her on impact, legacy and unfortunate incident that tarnished her commercial success. Janet remains unbothered with her acclaimed artistic RnB-pop music, rich impact and legacy. Without her presence and domination, most of your pop faves wouldn't exist and inspired to make music and become live performers like Janet.

 

Her material is always available for anyone to explore and consume. If you heard about Janet and choose not to give her discography a try, that's your choice. But don't come here then talking trash.

 

 

 

22 hours ago, BryceG said:

She needs to do some positioning work to appeal to a younger audience. Maybe sell or license her library?

Don't let them pls. 

 

10 hours ago, BryceG said:

It’s not always about the money.
 

If you care about reaching more people with your music, signing a deal can be a way to ensure it.

But reaching more people costs more money. And what good deals are in place in today's music market?

11 minutes ago, kishi said:

 

 

Anything that will make their faves look more impactful than Janet is like an orgasm. 

 

There's very, very few female artists that are more or as impactful as Janet. Tina, Madonna, Whitney... and that's it. They can scream about consumption all they want but when their faves' quick lil conveyor belt hits are long forgotten, Janet's influence will still be felt because she wrote the book on being a popstar, especially as a Black female. 

I’m not doubting her impact or legacy, I’m old enough to remember the tail end of her career highs, but why isn’t it recognised as such today?

 

Somebody somewhere has screwed up. 

On 1/18/2024 at 6:09 AM, Erreur2 La Nature said:

This only shows that streaming doesn't mean much when it comes to artists who debuted decades ago. I ain't gonna lie her streams are bad even compared to her peers but streaming platforms are mainly used by teenagers and "young adults" and she is not relevant to that demographic.

This.

 

Her fans probably consume her music in other ways. 

Outside of touring, I think very little is being done to promote her legacy to the younger generation. It also doesn't help that Janet seems to have a very nonchalant attitude towards streaming. Also her "team" doesn't strike me as experts or savvy with this kind of thing. 

It's a shame, her discography is a solid 10/10, her albums run from Control to Damita Jo is amazing. Even 20 YO and Discipline has some really great cuts.

I personally don’t know any song from her, or maybe I accidentally heard one but didn’t know it was her, unlike Madonna that has stapled hits over the decades. 

She doesn't really have a classic for starters. Many chart hits, but have any of them reached global status across all generations for instance?

Where's her Thriller? Girls Just Want To Have Fun? I Will Always Love You? etc.

 

When you're no longer relevant, those kind of smash hits always keep your name afloat. 

Edited January 22, 20242 yr by Robyn.