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P4K: Speak Now TV 7.5

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Taylor Swift’s catalog re-recording campaign continues with a thoughtful version of 2010’s Speak Now that tempers teen angst with the ageless quality of lullabies and folk songs.

 

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/taylor-swift-speak-now-taylors-version/

 

How predictable :dies:  

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1 minute ago, fridayteenage said:

rtv 85

ftv 75

 

 

Sounds about right!

nice :clap3: tbh idk what I was expecting, but 7.5 seems very fair

Not too bad, just a few points below the 8.2 Speak Now OG got. I guess it's fair to say it's an understandable ranking.

Expected a 8.5 at the very least after the asslicking they gave to Red tv

4 minutes ago, fridayteenage said:

rtv 85

ftv 75

 

 

Yeah, I mean I don’t think many really think Speak Now is better than Red.

 

Most people say they prefer it cause of nostalgia/timing. But Red is obviously the superior album.

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Just now, enchanted0 said:

Expected

 

deserved at least 7.7 though

Be so serious. Why would +.2 be such a difference 

Predictable. Speak Now TV and Fearless TV both deserve(d) higher scores than Red TV, but it’s whatever. I don’t take Pitchfork as seriously as some people do to begin with. 

6 minutes ago, XtunaStan said:

Expected a 8.5 at the very least after the asslicking they gave to Red tv

Red OG got 9.0, higher than TV (8.5) :giraffe:

I think all TV will get lower score than OG except maybe Puta and debut :gaycatney2:

(This isn’t spiteful)

 

P4K really should have stuck to not reviewing mainstream artists, it’s clear they don’t like anything about them or their art.. 

 

And the artists with less media presence deserve to not have to share a medium with others that already have enormous platforms. In my humble opinion

13 minutes ago, 1989 said:

Predictable. Speak Now TV and Fearless TV both deserve(d) higher scores than Red TV

I'm curious as to your logic on this

I feel like if she didn't change that line Pitchfork would be criticising her for it :rip:

3 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said:

Why are Swifties mad at a 7.5? :rip:

1. None of us are (actually) mad, at least that I can see in this thread

 

2. P4K didn’t even review her albums until like 2019 or 2020? In fact they reviewed Ryan Adam’s’ soft rock cover version of the 1989 album but not her own. It’s clear they have never liked her and never will :rip: She’s like the polar opposite of everything they stand for. 
 

3. OG Speak Now got an 8.1 from them in its retrospective review so under what criteria is the exact same album worthy of a lesser score? The same thing happened with Red TV getting an 8.5 after Red got a 9.1 when they did a retrospective review of it. They keep doing this thing where they can only admit her music is better than they initially scored it after a long period of time has passed. It’s pretty cowardly of them

 

But at the end of the day albums can not be defined solely by numbers or scores of one individuals opinion, in my mind at least. Just weighing in on the discussion around it 

 

 

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