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Beyoncé

This is part 1 of the Beyoncé discussion.

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1 minute ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

I dont wanna burst a bubble, but nothing would've smashed because Bey refuses to work for her music career post release of her lead single and the release of the album. 

As some have said before, Cuff Its success can ONLY be credited to those ladies who started the TikTok challenge. Otherwise, the Rennie era wouldve ended exactly like CC does now - #1 single and #1 album during debut, excitement for a month, and thats the era for yall.

 

Bey is literally anihilating ANY potential any of her projects have. Its really crazy

You didn't burst any bubble.

You stated nothing but facts. but if she releases 16C alone. it would be performed better than it did.

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13 minutes ago, Santhosh said:

16C flopped because Texas stole its thunder and didn't provide for it to have space, room to grow

and you can tell yourself that, sure! but ultimately it wasn't a sound that easily lent itself to radio audiences

Y'all in here doubting a song like Protector pls :jonny2: if she went on live right now and sang it a cappella the internet would COLLAPSE

9 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

I dont wanna burst a bubble, but nothing would've smashed because Bey refuses to work for her music career post release of her lead single and the release of the album. 

As some have said before, Cuff Its success can ONLY be credited to those ladies who started the TikTok challenge. Otherwise, the Rennie era wouldve ended exactly like CC does now - #1 single and #1 album during debut, excitement for a month, and thats the era for yall.

 

Bey is literally anihilating ANY potential any of her projects have. Its really crazy. Definitely deliberate like Cbreezy pointed out, but crazy regardless.

I still have to hope that she has something more significant planned for CC, and that ultimately there will be a visual project which ties everything together and reveals what she's been working on. Because it doesnt make sense!

Just now, king_queen said:

Y'all in here doubting a song like Protector pls :jonny2: if she went on live right now and sang it a cappella the internet would COLLAPSE

Period!!! Just because it's simple doesn't mean it's not a highlight

4 minutes ago, alien superstore said:

I still have to hope that she has something more significant planned for CC, and that ultimately there will be a visual project which ties everything together and reveals what she's been working on. Because it doesnt make sense!

Even if that was the plan: How can they look at the reception of Black Is King and think - lets repeat this for the next albums.

 

Black Is King was shot beautifully and contains some of her best visuals, yet the GP doesnt even know nor cares about the project, partially because of The Gift, partially because it was released a year later when even less people cared about The Gift

 

And thanks to Ms Tina, we know that Bey was hurt by its reception. Understandably so seeing the effort and probably the money shes lost on it. And yet here we are with even more stupid **** 

Edited by Kristie Kuwa

Beyonce loves my money and you know what, she's gonna get it. 

18 minutes ago, alien superstore said:

Period!!! Just because it's simple doesn't mean it's not a highlight

Sometimes I get why Beyoncé doesn't give the fans much. With fans who hate on your most personal and emotional songs dedicated to your literal kids, who needs enemies at all??

 

Keep up with the cash grabs, queen :clap3: 

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And while working with Beyoncé, details of her country album were so under lock and key that the two never actually met in person. Instead, a representative brought the track to Post's compound in Utah, and he and the Destiny's Child alum communicated largely through text messages.

 

https://www.eonline.com/news/1406048/why-post-malone-thinks-it-would-suck-to-be-taylor-swift-or-beyonce

No wonder he was gushing over the T**lor collab and didn't have much to say about Levii's.

Just seen Sir Davis...and oh Bey looool. 

 

The way I have ZERO issue with her getting her brand hustle on. Any celeb with the capacity to do so SHOULD as Business 101 is about diversifying your revenue streams. 

 

However...

 

It's her timing that is always SO OFF!

 

She's in the "middle" of this three-act era for which she has given the masses next to nothing beyond the music itself. Her core wheelhouse is music, videos, performing etc. And yet so much is missing. Yet, in the middle of this she's launching everything but what people actually want from her. 

 

I actually think it's slightly bad business because I genuinely think the girls would RUSH to buy whatever she was selling if they were already in a hyped mindset around her core activity. For instance, if they were bopping to her latest hit or on a high from her latest performance or video. By extension, you'd get "more Beyonce" by way of her extracurricular ish (Cecred, Ce Noir, and now Sir Davis). 

 

Now, though, there's a certain sourness from even The Hive around her antics, so I can't see them running en masse to buy her liquor. 

 

I'm even starting to question whether that shoot we thought was for a video and/or Levi's was for...this. 

 

The only real way I can see there being genuine excitement around this is if she plugs it in the long-awaited music videos and it is released around the same time. 

 

That or (more realistically) this isn't even a play for fan coin and she'll simply use her established name equity to zoom into a market targeting a different demographic. 

 

Spoiler

Saying all that...

 

Much as she annoys me to no end, I am always fairly intrigued about her endeavors outside of music and generally want her to win.

 

In kinda being geeky about the business of music and how success in one lane can be leveraged toward wins in others, I'm intrigued about her angle with this.

 

Fairly certain they will (smartly) play up how she's one few Black female owners in the space. Thankfully, it's not oversaturated with other celeb brands in the way beauty is.

 

But beyond that, will she have a partner? Is it direct-to-consumer again like Cecred and Ce Noir? Jay is a vet in this space and has always teamed up with the likes of Bacardi who co-own Dusse. 

 

Overall, sis can do as she chooses...but just give us what we want first lol.

 

Y'all, I think I answered a couple of my own questions above and now feel a little more excited about Sir Davis.

 

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The trademark for "SIRDAVIS" is owned by Moët Hennessy SAS, which applied for the trademark on June 24, 2022.
 

Moët Hennessy is famous for alcohol brands like Hennessy, Moët Champagne, Veuve Cliquot, Ardbeg, Belvedere, Chandon, Dom Pérignon and Glenmorangie.

In 2021, Moët Hennessy purchased a 50% stake in Armand de Brignac, the Champagne brand owned by Jay-Z, Beyoncé's husband.
 

Additionally, this spring, SIRDAVIS LLC filed trademarks for illustrations reading "THE FUTURE OF WHISKY IS HERE" and "CALL ME SIR." Trademarks for both phrases were filed for use in the context of alcohol but also for clothing, footwear and headwear.

 

https://bottleraiders.com/whiskey/rye/beyonce-sirdavis-rye-whiskey-what-we-know/

 

Knowing she's in bed with Moet Hennessy is comforting. Ventures like this stand to succeed way more when in bed with a power player like them. 

 

Maybe conjecture in places, but looking at her overall business portfolio, it's giving:

 

Sir Davis: big partnership, luxury or luxury adjacent positioning, and angling for the type of quiet/IYKYK success Jay has with his alcohol brands. I feel like because such ventures are leveraging a luxe lifestyle against a product that factually doesn't cost that much to produce (Whiskey), the profit margins are big while (I imagine) the sales expectations aren't huge. It also probably requires less of...her (compared to what she was trying with Adidas lol).

 

Cecred: Direct-to-Consumer. it takes longer to build, is passion and results-led, and word of mouth is what will cement it. She has scope to either keep it D2C (and thus shield its sales) or build it D2C for now and go in-store down the line. Still there being big potential with this. 

 

Ce Noir: sis was bored and was just trying a thing lol. Even then, as random as it may seem, there's no reason she can't continue to cultivate it more. The D2C angle gives her a lot of room to try ish and most crucially rack up data about what works, what isn't, as well as a userbase to leverage towards attracting a partner to mass produce it down the line. That or it remains a lil pet project. 

 

Spoiler

Essay aside, drop the visuals h*e! lol

 

So why would she release a whiskey?  No one is going to buy a Beyonce whiskey :lmao: 

 

 

 

3 minutes ago, Lose My Breath said:

So why would she release a whiskey?  No one is going to buy a Beyonce whiskey :lmao: 

 

 

 

Delusions of grandeur, I think thats the term for it 

 

:suburban:

Edited by Kristie Kuwa

Perfume, Hair Care, Whiskey… where did we go wrong? She's taking after the Bajan Avon Lady. :sosad:

https://www.instagram.com/p/C-5Ew0Lp2LC

 

She is just so out of touch with reality and what her fans really want. RWT on streaming? Music videos? Performances? Nope. $90 bottle of whiskey? YUP! All these endless products and business ventures were kinda funny at first, now it's just so transparent that she is milking her fans as much as she can.

 

5 hours ago, alien superstore said:

Protector is literally a more radio friendly single than Brown Skin Girl and 16 Carriages, her last two solo ballad singles. You might not like the song, but it's beautiful and would appeal to a specific demographic quite a lot.

and that demographic is the insomnia community

no film release, no live album, no visuals, no promotion .............. diabolical....... demonic even

All her recent projects being dedicated to/inspired by her family heritage.

 

Renaissance - Uncle Johnny

Cécred - Mama Tina

Cowboy Carter - Uncle Butch

SirDavis - Great Grandad Davis

 

Who's next? 

 

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42 minutes ago, R.E.M. said:

and that demographic is the insomnia community

your username is literally REM

50 minutes ago, RedOne said:

https://www.instagram.com/p/C-5Ew0Lp2LC

 

She is just so out of touch with reality and what her fans really want. RWT on streaming? Music videos? Performances? Nope. $90 bottle of whiskey? YUP! All these endless products and business ventures were kinda funny at first, now it's just so transparent that she is milking her fans as much as she can.

 

She's not even milking us for all she can, though. If she was, she'd be releasing tonnes of music stuff she knows we'd actually buy. Live albums, film releases, music videos, etc. 

 

She seems to genuinely be passionate about these ventures (the perfume, the whiskey, the athleisure and the shampoo).

 

I'm bored tho. I'm very bored.

11 minutes ago, alien superstore said:

your username is literally REM

cause like the GP, I stay sleep on Act II

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