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Beyoncé

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I don't think she'll retire anytime soon. I believe her personal life isn't that inspiring anymore and traveling the world, creating new memories with her children and her friends is where she's forced to draw so much inspiration now.
 

Her last two album have drawn more so on experiences not exclusive to the 'now', but things that have happened years ago and how it shaped a particular nostalgia memory she could live within without the pain, and they've been stellar albums. Even "LEMONADE" was crafted into the album we know AFTER she made peace and moved on with her life, knowing the cheating rumors had been a thing since 2013. 
 

Through out these events becoming musical experience, the music birthed visual ideas that she felt she needed to get out more than the music.
 

All of this being said, there will always be something for her to draw from to make music. She's forced herself to focus on making albums, rather than singles, and that has helped her in the long run, despite her purposely ruining the reception of the album. It'll be interesting to see where her inspiration takes her next- for whatever reason, I can vividly imagine more songs sonically like "Plastic off The Sofa" & "Virgo's Groove", because they felt so authentic to who she's always been. But, there's not point in retiring when all she'll do is think about music and think about videos, it's part of her life now. 
 

She could ultimately end up like Kelly and unreasonably record music to do nothing with. 

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2 hours ago, Kingdom said:

The silence isn't hurting her career in any way........Everybody literally knows of her 3 act project, they know she has something else coming. She has set that up really well. 

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Renaissance - OUT

Cowboy Carter - #79 (-1)

 

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4 hours ago, Draper. said:

Why do you want her to retire because you are not enjoying the fan experience?  :rip: Nobody is forcing you to stan lol

I do not want her to retire, she is retiring herself. There is no "fan experience" to speak of. We've been going back and forth between doing rankings and complaining since the album came out and she's been basically MIA.

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29 minutes ago, RedOne said:

I do not want her to retire, she is retiring herself. There is no "fan experience" to speak of. We've been going back and forth between doing rankings and complaining since the album came out and she's been basically MIA.

She's a musician and she released 2 (great) albums in the past two years. She might not give any fan experience, but I'm still taking the music over the fan experience. Otherwise, I'd be a swiftie.

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20 hours ago, Parachutes said:

If y'all had to pick, what would you say is the quintessential song from each of Bey's albums? As in one that best encapsulates its sound and themes (not necessarily the strongest track) 

Dangerously in Love: Crazy in Love (throwback sample. Lots of 70s throwback samples throughout the entire album)

 

B'Day: Get Me Bodied (loud. Real instrumentation. New singing style for B that shows the strength of her chest voice)

 

IASF: Sweet Dreams (precise, more modern production than her previous albums, catchy pop hooks)

 

4: Dance for You (controversial choice I know. But it showcases the modern take on 90s rnb babyface feel she was trying to go for and is the start of her 5:00+ musical thesis projects)

 

Self-Titled: Yoncé/Partition (sexual liberation, talking her ****, this is Beyoncé at her most confident, which is the thesis of ST, also 5mins+)

 

Lemonade: Formation (New Orleans was the centerpiece of the film and this was a love letter to NOLA)

 

Renaissance: Virgo's Groove (Beyoncé's definitive disco tune, she finally takes all the Diana/Donna/Prince inspiration and turns it into what is essentially her thesis project in 70s music studies)

 

Cowboy Carter: YA YA (see: Renaissance, except this is her definitive Rock n Roll tune where she tributes Tina Turner and Patti)

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The way Die With A Smile should've been for Bey!!! :deadbanana2:
 

It sounds great with Gaga but the song would've felt like such a MOMENT if Bey were on it.

10 hours ago, R.E.M. said:

A lot of big artists (e.g., Mariah, Madonna, Whitney, Shania, Celine, Prince, Aretha) still kept up public appearances during the transition to their 'legacy' era with press tours and interviews, live performances, red carpets, etc. so the reason that Bey is absent because she's a "legend" is a copout. 

 

Ultimately, the silence is hurting her career. When people think of Beyoncé, they think of boundary-pushing live performances, high budget music videos, fashion moments, etc., all of which happen in the public eye. This is especially true in an industry as oversaturated as the music business where it's important to be seen to stay relevant.

I agree, and I didn't say that the way she's handling things right now was best for her career. The fact we don't have one visual for any of the singles is crazy, and not a day goes by where I don't think about it. 

 

I was more so commenting on what's happening in the industry outside from what she is/isn't doing. There is also room for the conversation that even if she did all of the above promotional efforts, she still might not reach the same level of success/relevancy - and for whatever reason, it's clear she doesn't want that. Bey wants to let others shine at the moment and doesn't seem concerned if she's hurting her legacy. I'm really sad that this is the way it is, but I will always take quality music over everything else. In the meantime, I am enjoying exploring other new artists :heart:

1 hour ago, cuteboyzay said:

The way Die With A Smile should've been for Bey!!! :deadbanana2:
 

It sounds great with Gaga but the song would've felt like such a MOMENT if Bey were on it.

Gagas vocal delivery on Ballads ( in gen ) is very one dimensional also she lacks dynamics in my opinion . B would have made in interesting

19 hours ago, Lovett said:

I'm good! ATRL just got a bit too toxic for me, so needed to take a big break. I wasn't planning on returning now, but I've been reading the election thread as a guest and they've just turned off guests. So I had to log back in! Thank you for checking in on me. :hug: Hope you're all well!

Glad to see you're doing well.

I just can't see Beyonce retiring yet.

 

And she shouldn't.

 

 

Bey is long overdue for a smash ballad. Especially as a matured, star rated vocalist who's constantly being undermined (vocally). It would almost guarantee her a global smash and put Halo to shame. A rock ballad in particular would be epic for her next lead. 

1 hour ago, BGKC said:

Bey is long overdue for a smash ballad. Especially as a matured, star rated vocalist who's constantly being undermined (vocally). It would almost guarantee her a global smash and put Halo to shame. A rock ballad in particular would be epic for her next lead. 

Time for IF I were a Boys older sister !

Its Gaga doing a performance with Bruno right away for me. Oh I LOATHE Bey at times like these 

11 hours ago, BGKC said:

Bey is long overdue for a smash ballad. Especially as a matured, star rated vocalist who's constantly being undermined (vocally). It would almost guarantee her a global smash and put Halo to shame. A rock ballad in particular would be epic for her next lead. 

It should've been II Most Wanted but of course miss elusive had to let it rot.

15 hours ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

where the hell is she ? 

 

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pegging #him on a yacht somewhere

 

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18 hours ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

where the hell is she ? 

 

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:sistrens:

To think that Blow was never pushed :jonny2:

 

To think we're still complaining about her fuckery :jonny2:

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