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Beyoncé

This is part 1 of the Beyoncé discussion.

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16 minutes ago, swissman said:

um, something like the new run she did on Dangerously in Love in St. Louis (I think?) was stunning and amazing and I'm very happy with that, but I never said "just be content with new adlibs", I explained that we are indeed getting just small and subtle things which are perhaps getting overshadowed by the fashion.

 

I also never said that her performing one of her songs, which I'm sure she'd do a fine job at without any rehearsal at all, was some impossible thing. I said that this is BEYONCÉ, and we know her to be a perfectionist who simply is not going to perform what is not intended nor readied for the tour, regardless of how long ago she last performed it. Whether it's rocket science or not, being the Virgo she is I just don't think she's going to just do that, so asking that she does seems futile and pointless. We've seen how choreographed even the cinematography is, she's in front of thousands of phones capturing it, I just can't see her deciding to debut a surprise song every night or even every so often without the control or assurance that it'll go exactly how she wants it. That's not even something she did on any other tours except some specific instances (Standing on the Sun, for example), so it's kind of odd that we are asking it from her as if it's something we now lack.

 

Not to mention, if someone watches everything that happened at the concert beforehand and then is mad she didn't do anything new, that's THIER problem. The debuted looks are fun too, but if she didn't do that, complaining that she didn't would also be one's own problem.

anything is “odd" and "why are you asking that" to some of you :sorry: asking for visuals after a year is odd, asking for new songs over new ugly costumes is odd, people 

thinking the other acts are scrapped is odd even tho there hasn’t been ANY acknowledgment of it since she announced them over a year ago… can we pls just discuss / complain without going through a bunch of paragraphs and excuses every time :deadbanana4:

 

when OTR 3 and another flop album inevitably come i just know y’all will pull out the fake stan and "how dare you expect her not to work with her husband she’s a mother of 3 !!!" card again, watch. 

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3 hours ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

starting to believe “the visuals are edited frame by frame bc she thinks she’s fat" rumors :deadbanana2:

 

 

Hoping this means she takes aging better Madonna did…

 

2 hours ago, ShouldersSideways said:

She's done this for pushing 20 years now :rip:And the way people eat it up every time like it's just an off the cuff moment kills me. 

Oh :rip: nevermind

Just now, Shone Ai said:

Hoping this means she takes aging better Madonna did…

not Madge catching strays too you know she loves her mother M :deadbanana2:

When y’all slander divorce bops like Ring Off and Best Thing I Never Had, all I hear is that y’all support Jay-Z. 
 

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Also we all know @swissman sings BTINH whenever they think of the visuals.

 

You wanted them bad
You’re so through with that
Cause honestly, they turned out to be the best thing you never had 

 

 

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just put out my edit of CUFF IT, seamlessly mixing the wetter remix into the album cut. check it out, hive ❤️

not the double, double posts this website is struggling  :deadbanana4:

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Best Thing I Never Had is okay but I don't willingly play it on my own

30 minutes ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

anything is “odd" and "why are you asking that" to some of you :sorry: asking for visuals after a year is odd, asking for new songs over new ugly costumes is odd, people 

thinking the other acts are scrapped is odd even tho there hasn’t been ANY acknowledgment of it since she announced them over a year ago… can we pls just discuss / complain without going through a bunch of paragraphs and excuses every time :deadbanana4:

 

when OTR 3 and another flop album inevitably come i just know y’all will pull out the fake stan and "how dare you expect her not to work with her husband she’s a mother of 3 !!!" card again, watch. 

You've projected a lot onto me which I don't say, though some is very much things I would say.

 

I do think it's odd to say "the fashion is the only thing we can look forward to [on tour]" when the tour is far more special, entertaining and transcendent than whether it has or lacks a new surprise song, something she is not in the slightest known for doing.

 

And I am never being a fake stan. I'm very much content with whatever she choses to do because I am happy to let the artist I stan do what she pleases rather than measuring her against what other artists do, what we want her to do, etc. Do I want her to make OTR3 and release a flop album? No. If she does does that change anything about my fandom? Will I try to figure out possible reasons why she chose this? Yes. Why not? I find that far more fruitful than complaining throughout an entire "era", defining it by what she didn't do vs. what she has given us.

24 minutes ago, Armani? said:

Best Thing I Never Had is okay but I don't willingly play it on my own

It is indeed "okay". It's not a terrible song but I do dislike it for the fact that at the time of its release it felt very much like a concession in order to get commercial success, which altogether did not feel like the intent of the era (RTW, even 1+1 all being outside the radio norm). It was the "correct" decision because it was the highest charting song of the era, but I do think had another song been focused on, it might have served the era better without looking like she's backtracking all the way back to 2006 to put out another Irreplaceable, years after all the wannabe-Irreplaceable had already came out. And it's not like a Crazy in Love to Déja Vu situation where at least it got more intense and doubled down on the energy, holding its own (or a Get Me Bodied to Single Ladies where the sound was expanded upon) it very much is a lesser copy of Irreplaceable. Add to that the wedding themed video (I find weddings very cheesy and points towards this commerciality they so clearly sought with this single choice) and those DRY buns...it remains the only video of her's I've seen once.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Blue Rose said:

Not the city of Vegas changing its name of Las Beygas. They want to be BeyTL so bad :lmao: 

both are boots, because Bey=Bee, not Bay

I just think that with even a little bit of imagination (or research), it's not hard to get insight to what she's doing.

 

No visuals? She literally said she wanted the music to come first.

No visuals still? They're not done OR were delayed for probably not insignificant reasons OR she's waiting for what she considers the perfect time

No new acts yet? Why would she release a new act before she's even finished touring the first?

No word on when the new acts are? act I had about a month's notice. The Gift had 1 week's notice. Everything else since 4 has had no notice. And given the visuals' delays, why would she announce when we could expect new music?

No surprise songs? When has she ever had the routine of performing surprise songs?

Why does she need to change costumes so much? Because she can; because she's extra; because it compliments the ballroom theme

Why is she posting every new outfit? Because why would she hide them? Because probably the brands expect her to given they are provided for free.

 

 

The only area that is very unclear is why she's not releasing new singles and why she's not (yet) touring outside the US and Europe.

 

At some point we just need to accept that this is how Beyoncé is. And no amount of complaining is going to change that. And if you need to vent...vent, but don't be surprised when people try to explain or find joy in what she has given us, especially when the venting has the tone of anger and cruelty not just disappointment and wishful thinking.

 

 

 

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she should give us a new Tiffany commercial :cooldown:

 

it'll be the last straw for some and there will be blood shed in the basé. 

7 hours ago, SashaDevachelli said:

You just be saying anything in this thread, it stresses me out

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I'm sorry my brain goes a little mental late at night (no alcohol or drugs whatsoever!). I woke up with anxiety wondering how many notifications I'd get lashing me for my late night takes. My apologies! I'm clear headed now and take that back.

12 minutes ago, swissman said:

No new acts yet? Why would she release a new act before she's even finished touring the first?

No surprise songs? When has she ever had the routine of performing surprise songs?

She released ST & EIL while touring, that’s not a reason not to release new acts or at least let people know literally anything about what’s happening 

 

The setlist used to differ slightly between US/Europe. 
 

Is there a logical reason why the tour isn’t being extended (as far as we know)? 

2 minutes ago, black-star1 said:

She released ST & EIL while touring, that’s not a reason not to release new acts or at least let people know literally anything about what’s happening 

 

The setlist used to differ slightly between US/Europe. 
 

Is there a logical reason why the tour isn’t being extended (as far as we know)? 

I don't think we have any insight but ever since Blue started school she's primarily done only late spring into early fall tours. I believe she wants he children to have normal school years even if they have to leave early or start the year a month late. This will be confirmed by if we see Blue do any dates in September. 

Are we classifying XO, If I Were A Boy and Love Drought as ballads?

 

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1 minute ago, DR0GO said:

Are we classifying XO, If I Were A Boy and Love Drought as ballads?

 

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Yes, no Choreo and less than 90bpm = Ballad

 

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31 minutes ago, black-star1 said:

She released ST & EIL while touring, that’s not a reason not to release new acts or at least let people know literally anything about what’s happening 

 

The setlist used to differ slightly between US/Europe. 
 

Is there a logical reason why the tour isn’t being extended (as far as we know)? 

While both are examples of releasing music on tour, both were when she was touring catalogue tracks. The new releases didn't really interrupt the promo or celebration of anything else.

For RWT she (nearly) performs an entire album worth of songs that were never yet performed until the tour started. It seems illogical to drop act ii before she's even finished what she started for act i. Whether one thinks it's logical or not, at the least it should not be a surprise that she's letting act i have its moment before moving onto the next act.

1 hour ago, swissman said:

No new acts yet? Why would she release a new act before she's even finished touring the first?

When she announced the tour and we realized she’s injured and when she started the tour with “less dancing, low energy”, they were saying that she should have delayed the tour if she’s not ready and now that they were proven wrong, they complain about her not announcing more. Yeas, it would be amazing if she did more dates and she should go to Latin America, Africa and Australia, but maybe she has her reasons we don’t know. Wait and see, that’s all you can do

39 minutes ago, Iyanla, Fix Me said:

I don't think we have any insight but ever since Blue started school she's primarily done only late spring into early fall tours. I believe she wants he children to have normal school years even if they have to leave early or start the year a month late. This will be confirmed by if we see Blue do any dates in September. 

I be ridin' around with my seat reclinin'
Droppin' my daughter off at school every morning

49 minutes ago, kimberly said:

she should give us a new Tiffany commercial :cooldown:

 

it'll be the last straw for some and there will be blood shed in the basé. 

speaking of this, I really love what a muse she's ben for the brand. all the pieces she's been wearing have been really stunning...that necklace that is like, a series of women is really amazing...and the fact that they are designing clothing for her too is super interesting and innovative. I don't know if they've ever designed clothing before but it seems like a new thing.

Maybe act II is coming soon. And another tour along with it. 

 

My only real problem with this era was few singles and only one "really" pushed. I wish Heated and AS had been released and pushed and a VG's public performance. But since they are not doing anything with the songs and era, we might as well get the new album. 

 

I wonder if Virgo's Groove will be remembered. 

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