1 hour ago, TeeJay said:

It's stuff like this that make me not consider myself part of the gay community. I am gay but i just am not at all anything like what the majority of that community is. I have an entirely different way of thinking than most gays imo. I find yall nasty tbh. Not in a judgemental way, yall do you, but I want no part of it or yall. 

This. I saw the grisly title and felt unclean immediately. It's scary people like this are out there. 

The posts in this thread and the way men act in the real world aren't matching up. It's much healthier to have these conversations realistically instead of pretending you're above breeding. 

 

OT: it's a better option than no protection but not ideal. 

Edited August 20, 20251 yr by Sheep

i think Doxy gave me gastritis or ulcer 

Remember, Doxy and Prep won't prevent you from getting s**t on your actual d***. No matter how well the bottom prepped and cleaned. 

20 minutes ago, Sheep said:

The posts in this thread and the way men act in the real world aren't matching up. It's much healthier to have these conversations realistically instead of pretending you're above breeding. 

Oh but now we said it

I think you can stop using condom on oral sex, finally.

2 hours ago, A.R.L said:

For people who already have kidney issues, maybe unfortunately, however some medications can actually put more strain on the kidneys than PrEP does.
 

Take ibuprofen, for example, it's a drug that many people use regularly, but its impact on kidney function is far stronger than PrEP's. If you've ever read the full list of side effects and risks in ibuprofen's description, you might think twice about ever taking it even if your life depended on it. 

but you don't take ibuprofen every week now do you. and you don't mix it with alcohol and drugs. (and okay there definitely is a group of people who do that but they know it's very unhealthy, no one is trying to normalize it). same can't be said about prep and doxy.

if you wanna go there, let's go there. a lot of yall mix doxy and prep with hard drugs and alcohol regularly. it's not like those grindr orgies, 1:1 hookups and cruising adventures are sober parties. a condom should always be your first option cause that mixture of substances might **** you up.

1 hour ago, Kimi said:

but you don't take ibuprofen every week now do you. and you don't mix it with alcohol and drugs. (and okay there definitely is a group of people who do that but they know it's very unhealthy, no one is trying to normalize it). same can't be said about prep and doxy.

I see ur point and I agree, but the point as you mentioned, even those who think taking ibuprofen isn't good for their health often still take it, I know people who might take it daily for just a headache.
 

Prep is also evolving, moving from pills to injections, which is even better, and studies do show that it effectively reduces hiv cases.
 

Also, as you already know, hiv  medications have advanced so much that people living with the virus can now be undetectable and effectively cannot transmit it. For those who are hiv negative, prep can reduce the risk of infection by up to 99%, which is far better than 50% let alone no chance at all. This makes a significant impact on reducing hiv cases.
 

the bottom line is if someone is at high risk, they should absolutely take it.

It should be used as a preventive measure when needed, but I doubt taking that much amount of chemicals after each time you have sex with random people will do any good to your body in the long-term. 

7 hours ago, Mythical said:

With doxypep preventing you from getting STIs like gonorrhea and chlamydia,

This is not true. It lowers your RISK of contracting these STIs, but it does not prevent you from catching them. It is still a good medication to have for lowering your risk, I use it myself, but it is not a get out of jail free card from gonorrhea or chlamydia, nor does it protect against other STIs.

6 hours ago, A.R.L said:

For people who already have kidney issues, maybe unfortunately, however some medications can actually put more strain on the kidneys than PrEP does.
 

Take ibuprofen, for example, it's a drug that many people use regularly, but its impact on kidney function is far stronger than PrEP's. If you've ever read the full list of side effects and risks in ibuprofen's description, you might think twice about ever taking it even if your life depended on it. 

This is why people are always told to NOT self medicate without medical advise, ibuprofen included

8 hours ago, Raphy said:

No my partner and I are monogamous and sti free and use condoms to lower the risk of bladder infections. Condoms still serve a purpose. 

Damn I need to start using condoms too. We are monogamous but I don't want cancer

They shouldn't be, they still serve very valid purposes as mentioned 

Ignorance is not blissssssss

A guy using doxypep gave me gonorrhoea so no

Edited August 20, 20251 yr by Maneater
Typo

Do you guys also suck dick with condoms? or popsicles with the plastic around it?

We should be thankful we're living in an age when we have extensive knowledge and medical researches on STIs, a luxury that people just a few decades ago did not have and it came with devastating consequences.
 

Everything we know points to the fact that these medications should be used as additional protection next to condoms. People act like just because they avoid the absolute worst thing it's all good and other risks bear no relevance, which is both immature and irresponsible imo.

some of you are not only idiots but also really gross 

If we're being honest with ourselves, there's going to be a health crisis in a couple of years due to the effects of people taking doxycycline every time they have sex if we normalise this.  Your body isn't built to be on a regular antibiotic like doxycycline without having an active infection. I truly think the research into DoxyPEP needed to be widened before it was released to the general public.

absolutely, because in a world where abx resistance is on the rise and is a very pressing issue we should bin forms of STD prevention with no wider impact so some of the girls can shove doxycycline down their throats after every load.

The kidney issues associated with prep are usually overblown and unless you have existing conditions predisposing you to kidney problems, it's extremely unlikely you'll have any severe, concerning side effects 

The only thing that makes condoms obsolete is monogamy. I don't make the rules 

6 hours ago, Sheep said:

The posts in this thread and the way men act in the real world aren't matching up. It's much healthier to have these conversations realistically instead of pretending you're above breeding.

I mean, some gay men are genuinely cautious when it comes to breeding and their sexual health and that's okay.  I find it more bizarre to compartmentalise the idea that it's okay to hook-up with someone without a condom because popping an ABX the next day will make it all okay.