D.O. and nct, the only exo member I like for a reason

 

 

excellence

 

 

 

H2H, that trot group, those new uncanny android boys

 

chop after chop after chop

 

 

19 minutes ago, Odette Violet said:

 

 

 

 

I think you're reading it wrong. 

 

It's like Drama that was also supposed to be a Bside for MyWorld

 

 

 

Well let's pray!

 

SM ended their streak with aespa

 

YG with blackpink

 

JYP with first 2 years Itzy

 

Now were stuck with HYBE's fast food music

 

Kpop is doom

 

 

kpop is so dry right now... literally fans fighting each other everywhere 

 

we need aespa and njz to comeback 

Not Illit Lipsyncing at It's Live

4 minutes ago, Odette Violet said:

SM ended their streak with aespa

 

YG with blackpink

 

JYP with first 2 years Itzy

 

Now were stuck with HYBE's fast food music

 

Kpop is doom

 

not sure what you mean when NCT Wish has been SM's most interesting and fun group since Aespa

 

1 minute ago, Xalric said:

Not Illit Lipsyncing at It's Live

Sounded live to me

It definitely was slightly altered post production, but that program does that to almost everyone

the charts have always been filled with tons of indie artists... the twitter accounts just don't report on it

23 minutes ago, DelRey said:

D.O. and nct, the only exo member I like for a reason

 

 

what a MAN, honestly his face card got even better with age, it's really a face that gays would vote for lol 

 

how tf did SM find all these pretty boys who could also sing the house down

 

 

33 minutes ago, Gorjesspazze9 said:

Oh you know Trump is ******* up the Global economy if Sunny has to get off the couch and work. 

Streets are saying the trainee names are Yoona, Taeyeon, Tiffany, Hyoyeon, Yuri, Sooyoung, Seohyun, and Lucifer and theyre debuting Aug 5 

Edited April 9, 20251 yr by Ubermensch

23 minutes ago, illia said:

Sounded live to me

It definitely was slightly altered post production, but that program does that to almost everyone

40 minutes ago, illia said:

Sounded live to me

It definitely was slightly altered post production, but that program does that to almost everyone

During the high note, the member didn't even synced the microphone to her mouth

15 hours ago, Ubermensch said:

Demi did also headline RIR a few days later. I never said stray kids aren't they impressive, a stadium anywhere on earth is impressive, but they're acting like it's a market that stray kids cracked like boa in Japan or BTS in the US when there's like half a dozen of SKZ seniors who could have and chose to not to tour there for some of the reasons that you outlined, which I also touched on.

 

The #1 touring group from this generation is a major accomplishment, that user is just an out of touch troll who won't accept anything less than pretending SKZ are the successors to BTS and Big Bang, and also still is buying into the fake pr narrative that kpop wasn't global until the 2020s.

 

Media play has become so powerful in Western kpop discourse now that people will turn on their favorite idols if a CEO tells them to. It's exhausting to those of us who were here before all of this and saw these pr pipelines built up and can see past them. Users like me who can actually make claims contrary to popular narratives and back them up with receipts are routinely shat on by people who weren't even into kpop a few years ago. It's not even limited to ATRL,this is a kpop issue in general. People were really expecting the G-Dragon comeback to flop and the 2NE1 world tour to not instantly sell out because YG duped y'all into thinking black pink was the first time people heard teddy beats.

 

Stray Kids will go down as Hallyu icons but theyre hardly the top group. You can't be the top group with no hits and also not being the top in album sales. They're top in touring with the caveat that bigger selling groups with more popular songs have not attempted tours at this scale. It's not entirely dissimilar to what I said about how if SNSD were actually allowed to tour, they would have pulled even bigger numbers than my other fav GD. Perspective is really lacking with every modern kpop group desperately trying to prop up this image of being the #1 group who will lead kpop to being even bigger. Album sales and streams are shrinking, nobody is being lead anywhere.

 

You keep putting words in my mouth and twisting my stance into something I never actually said, so let me clarify a few things once and for all.

I never said Stray Kids "cracked" the LATAM market like BoA did Japan or how BTS cracked the US. I simply pointed out that selling over 175,000 tickets in Brazil, having the biggest K-pop tour in Brazil, a region where even globally popular acts often struggle due to economic and logistical challenges, is objectively impressive. That's a fact, not a claim of total market dominance. You were the one who brought up Demi Lovato out of nowhere to downplay SKZ's achievement. 

 

I also never said Stray Kids are THE top group in K-pop. BTS and BP literally exists lol. I simply pointed out that they are clearly one of the most successful and powerful groups in K-pop today and arguably top 3, based on multiple measurable metrics such as touring power, album sales, global streaming, global charting, social media following, brand power, international demand, etc.

 

What I did do was defend them against constant downplaying and disrespect, especially when users like you act like they're irrelevant or "a joke," despite the fact that they're clearly one of the most successful Kpop groups in the industry. 

The idea that I've been running around claiming they're the #1 group or that I claimed that they cracked LATAM the same way BoA did Japan is just something you made up in your head right now. That's not only dishonest, it's hypocritical when you accuse others of being delusional or blinded by media-play narratives while constantly shifting goalposts and building strawmen to suit your agenda.

 

You don't have to like Stray Kids. You don't have to think they're the best. But let's not pretend you're engaging in fair or balanced discourse when your entire approach is minimizing everything they achieve and exaggerating what others are saying just to make yourself feel right.

 

 

Edited April 9, 20251 yr by Pluto6

the future of kpop 

 

anddddd here we go again

 

45 minutes ago, Ubermensch said:

Streets are saying the trainee names are Yoona, Taeyeon, Tiffany, Hyoyeon, Yuri, Sooyoung, Seohyun, and Lucifer and theyre debuting Aug 5 

I think Lucifer is gonna be my Bias

5 minutes ago, youresotoxic said:

anddddd here we go again

 

I hate when someone lies and put words in other people's mouths, bestie. Like I just had a 12 hour shift today, and don't have the energy

Edited April 9, 20251 yr by Pluto6

52 minutes ago, illia said:

Sounded live to me

It definitely was slightly altered post production, but that program does that to almost everyone

Just watched and it was not live lmao.

I fear that HYBE has dumbed y'all ears a bit.

 

 

 

 

19 minutes ago, Xalric said:

During the high note, the member didn't even synced the microphone to her mouth

During what song? I just checked the video and didn't notice anything

12 hours ago, Edu said:

agreed that it's very odd that bp has yet to tour brazil

i mean, even stray kids can sell out stadiums here

"even Stray Kids can sell out stadiums here" as if Stray Kids isn't THAT group who sell out stadiums all over world