9 hours ago, Pluto6 said:

4th gen leaders Stray Global just finished their concert dates in Brazil and made history!

Even Demi Lovato can book stadiums there. They're #1 in 4th gen touring for now but this is even less of a flex than Tokyo dome.

Is Base down because of the SKZ concert spam? What can we do about it? 

8 hours ago, Queenyoncee said:

Susan said:

 

 

Who in the Compton-Meryl Streep is this? 

2 hours ago, youresotoxic said:

 

God I forgot how stupid that show is 

Seungri is apparently trying to get back into the entertainment business in China. I hope they send him to prison for the rest of his life the second his dumb ass starts exploiting Chinese women(which he unfortunately will).

 

 

 

Korea can not wait for summer.

2 hours ago, Ubermensch said:

Even Demi Lovato can book stadiums there. They're #1 in 4th gen touring for now but this is even less of a flex than Tokyo dome.

Demi Lovato has never booked a 66K stadium in Brazil 

And also, it's definitely NOT easier for Kpop acts to book stadiums in Brazil than Tokyo Dome?  
Most Kpop can't even perform in stadiums outside of Tokyo Dome.

Not you trying to downplaying SKZ's achievements, when no other Kpop act has been doing this at this scale yet in Brazil  

Most Kpop acts literally skip LATAM, since there's literally no demand for them. This is not something the average Kpop act can pull. You do realize SKZ are huge in LATAM right and it's literally one of their biggest markets? Hence why they are able to sell out stadiums over there.

I know SKZ makes it look easy, but none of your local faves will probably ever have a concert at this level outside of Asia especially in Brazil  
 

 

Edited April 8, 20251 yr by Pluto6

3 hours ago, Ubermensch said:

They're #1 in 4th gen touring for now

"For now", as if any other 4th gen will ever be able to come close to this record breaking tour  

It's a literally a full on stadium tour across EVERY date in EVERY continent, and is estimated to become the most attended Kpop tour of all time, and that's without the encore dates They are simply above 4th gen at this point

 

Edited April 8, 20251 yr by Pluto6

27 minutes ago, Pluto6 said:

Demi Lovato has never booked a 66K stadium in Brazil 

And also, it's definitely NOT easier for Kpop acts to book stadiums in Brazil than Tokyo Dome?  
Most Kpop can't perform in stadiums outside of Tokyo Dome.

Not you trying to downplaying SKZ's achievements, when no other Kpop act has been doing this at this scale yet in Brazil  

Most Kpop acts literally skip LATAM, since there's literally no demand for them. This is not something the average Kpop act can pull. You do realize SKZ are huge in LATAM right and it's literally one of their biggest markets? Hence why they are able to sell out stadiums over there.

I know SKZ makes it look easy, but none of your local faves will probably ever have a concert at this level outside of Asia especially in Brazil  
 

 

You have no idea how the touring industry works. The most in-demand artists in the world skip LATAM because A) the infrastructure to make large tours easy and efficient doesn't exist B) conversion rates and ticket prices make it either unprofitable or not very profitable. A lot of global acts who DO tour there do it just to make those fans happy and keep them supporting through streams and sales.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mineirão

Look at the concerts tab I'm so tired of your sniveling crash outs over subjects that you prove to have ZERO knowledge of. I called them #1 in fourth gen and also poked at aespa's first big stadium show not being that big of a deal. I'm not conspiring against your favorite corporate mascots I was explaining something about the touring industry. Grow up and stop talking out of your ass 24/7 it's exhausting.

Edited April 8, 20251 yr by Ubermensch

2 minutes ago, Pluto6 said:

"For now", as if any other 4th gen will ever be able to come close to this record breaking tour  

And this is what big bang fans said about BTS and what BTS fans said about Scatpink. You'll never learn. aespa and IVE have higher ticket prices and gross and attendance at the same points in their touring careers compared to SKZ, this is not an opinion, it's an objective statistic. If starship and SM capitalize on the demand, they'll match or exceed SKZ in the long run off the back of having music that people actually like. There are also other huge 4th gen BGs who can and will post similar numbers on their next tours.

1 minute ago, Ubermensch said:

You have no idea how the touring industry works. The most in-demand artists in the world skip LATAM because A) the infrastructure to make large tours easy and efficient doesn't exist B) conversion rates and ticket prices make it either unprofitable or not very profitable.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mineirão

Look at the concerts tab I'm so tired of your sniveling crash outs over subjects that you prove to have ZERO knowledge of. I called them #1 in fourth gen and also poked at aespa's first big stadium show not being that big of a deal. Grow up and stop talking out of your ass 24/7 it's exhausting.

The truth is, no Kpop act outside of very few such as SKZ, TWICE, BP and BTS can sell out stadiums in LATAM. 

 

Anyways SKZ just landed in Peru, where they will perform in another stadium that your faves will never be able to perform in 

 

1 minute ago, Ubermensch said:

And this is what big bang fans said about BTS and what BTS fans said about Scatpink. You'll never learn. aespa and IVE have higher ticket prices and gross and attendance at the same points in their touring careers compared to SKZ, this is not an opinion, it's an objective statistic. If starship and SM capitalize on the demand, they'll match or exceed SKZ in the long run off the back of having music that people actually like. There are also other huge 4th gen BGs who can and will post similar numbers on their next tours.

Do you seriously believe IVE or aespa will ever be able to to outdo SKZ in touring in the future? 

2 minutes ago, Pluto6 said:

The truth is, no Kpop act outside of very few such as SKZ, TWICE, BP and BTS can sell out stadiums in LATAM. 

 

The truth is, other kpop groups don't do mega tours because they're too busy recording and promoting music. You really have zero concept of how this industry works.

Ask ANY Brazilian kpop fan, even super junior haggard asses could sell a stadium there.

Edited April 8, 20251 yr by Ubermensch

Also my actual fav Lady Gaga is about to have more attendance at her concert in Rio than SKZ entire tour. 

What's KTRL's consensus on aespa's Spicy era? imo it's my favorite era of theirs the only song of theirs that tops that mini is Illusion

2 minutes ago, Josh said:

What's KTRL's consensus on aespa's Spicy era? imo it's my favorite era of theirs the only song of theirs that tops that mini is Illusion

My World top 5 minis of all time and it's not #5 

7 minutes ago, Ubermensch said:

The truth is, other kpop groups don't do mega tours because they're too busy recording and promoting music. You really have zero concept of how this industry works.

 

Ask ANY Brazilian kpop fan, even super junior haggard asses could sell a stadium there.

Super seniors might be able to pull big venues over there as well but not at the same scale as SKZ though. I don't think you realize that SKZ are one of the biggest Kpop acts in LATAM in general, and they get more streams over there than in SEA for example.

 

SKZ are not just selling out stadiums in Brazil, but also in multiple LATAM countries.

 

5 minutes ago, Ubermensch said:

Also my actual fav Lady Gaga is about to have more attendance at her concert in Rio than SKZ entire tour. 

A free concert btw.

 

But why are you comparing SKZ with mainstream pop girls?
What's next, Madonna outsold SKZ? 

2 minutes ago, Ubermensch said:

My World top 5 minis of all time and it's not #5 

Welcome to My World deserved Song of the Year

3 minutes ago, Pluto6 said:

Super seniors might be able to pull big venues over there as well but not at the same scale as SKZ though. I don't think you realize that SKZ are one of the biggest Kpop acts in LATAM in general, and they get more streams over there than in SEA for example.

 

SKZ are not just selling out stadiums in Brazil, but also in multiple LATAM countries.

Whale farm BGs with basic music always do well there, which is why I used SJ as a comparison point.

 

What's most impressive about the tour is that they're doing it knowing it will hardly make any money if at all.

4 minutes ago, Pluto6 said:

A free concert btw.

 

But why are you comparing SKZ with mainstream pop girls?
What's next, Madonna outsold SKZ? 

You said my favs could NEVER. I had to remind you that I actually stan talented and acclaimed musicians.

2 hours ago, Jenlisa said:

 

 

Interesting. This is the same agency Krystal chose after leaving SM.

It used be called H& Entertainment until Blitzway bought the company to enter the entertainment business

 

So I guess that means Yeri is definitely aiming for an actress career, since this agency is definitely acting focused.

 

2 more spots and and they are going to be the best performing GG in Apple Global soon

 

when you do TALENTry and CVNTery

 

 

 

Edited April 8, 20251 yr by Odette Violet

1 hour ago, Ubermensch said:

Whale farm BGs with basic music always do well there, which is why I used SJ as a comparison point.

 

What's most impressive about the tour is that they're doing it knowing it will hardly make any money if at all.

Stop being biased and trying to move the goal post all the time when it comes to SKZ 

What SKZ are doing are not something every bg are doing or Kpop act in general for that matter. I honestly don't think you have any clue how big of a scale the SKZ tour actually is 

 

Every single show out of the 55 dates so far of SKZ's tour are ALL STADIUMS, which no Kpop act has done so far. Even BP and TWICE's latest tours were arenas mixed with stadiums, and not full blown stadium tours like SKZ's.
SKZ are the first Kpop act to have a full blown stadium tour across all continents such as North America, LATAM, Europe, Asia and Oceania.  

 

Do you know how hard it for Kpop acts to sell out arenas in Europe in general let alone stadiums, which is something SKZ did in MINUTES 

 

You can drag SKZ for their domestic charting which are tragic ngl like most bgs, but otherwise they are far ahead of almost every Kpop act in almost every other metric globally.

 

 

1 hour ago, Ubermensch said:

You said my favs could NEVER. I had to remind you that I actually stan talented and acclaimed musicians.

This is a Kpop thread, so I must likely meant your KPOP FAVES.

 

Anyways, both Gaga and SKZ are talented wbk 

 

Edited April 8, 20251 yr by Pluto6

Welp.

 

• TheShow.EP374: ShinEuiJin, EJel, CLOSE YOUR EYES, FANTASY BOYS, NEWBEAT, TNX, xikers, Kim Sung Joong, An Yul, RED DRAGONFLY, TEMPEST

Really decreases the odds of a girl group crying at the end of this one.

 

25 minutes ago, Pluto6 said:

Do you know how hard it for Kpop acts to sell out arenas in Europe

2nd Gen was already doing this and they're irrelevant according to you.

 

25 minutes ago, Pluto6 said:

This is a Kpop thread, so I must likely meant your KPOP FAVES.

Literally every one of my kpop favs except for red velvet and maybe 2NE1 could do stadiums in latam. Again everybody who goes over there does bigger venues than in other parts of the world, unless they were already in stadiums. I already posted receipts on the Demi Lovato stadium dates for her worst performing album. You're talking out of your ass.

 

Edited April 8, 20251 yr by Ubermensch