After ES + Wicked, it's safe to say Ariana left Gaga behind?

 

Discuss…

 

Boring

I stan both. But by your logic Gaga had ASIB before Ari so if anything Ari is catching up not surpassing.

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Not yet but in the long run, maybe so.

Everything the girl touches turns to gold lately.

Oh definitely

only in cinema, music, tv and perfumes 

 

but NOT in the beauty industry since HL is way more profitable than R.E.M beauty, so there's that

At this point she hasn't been surpassed only on pr paid charts.

Well, not yet.

she already has years ago 

Years ago, actually. 

Honestly, I feel like Wicked has nearly doubled Ariana's greatness. It's tough cuz Gaga has such an impactful past. Perhaps close to even?

I don't think so yet, but she is definitely more consistent than Gaga. Winning an acting Oscar would push her over the edge though

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The question is TIRED. Ariana is a superstar in her own lane, just as Gaga is. 

 

It's so hard as Gaga was so impactful and had such a huge peak both in music and later cinema

 

But Ari has never had a low point like Gaga has in terms of her career, and her consistency and longevity is incredible. 

Maybe at some point but not right now. 
 

Gaga got these for ASIB:

 

Academy Awards (Oscars)

- Won: Best Original Song for "Shallow"
- Nominated: Best Actress

Golden Globe Awards
- Won: Best Original Song for "Shallow"
- Nominated: Best Actress in a Motion Picture - Drama

BAFTA Awards
- Won: Best Film Music (shared with Bradley Cooper and Lukas Nelson)
- Nominated: Best Actress in a Leading Role

Critics' Choice Awards
- Won: Best Actress (tied with Glenn Close)
- Won: Best Song for "Shallow"

Screen Actors Guild Awards
- Nominated: Outstanding Performance by a Female Actor in a Leading Role

Grammy Awards
- Won: Best Pop Duo/Group Performance for "Shallow"
- Won: Best Song Written for Visual Media for "Shallow"

Other Notable Awards
- National Board of Review: Won Best Actress
- New York Film Critics Circle: Won Best Actress

Additional Recognitions
- Gaga made history as the first person to receive a Best Actress and Best Original Song Oscar nomination in the same year.
- She became the first woman to win an Academy Award, Grammy Award, BAFTA Award, and Golden Globe Award in one single year for her contributions to "A Star Is Born".
 

She got these for Gucci:

- Golden Globe: Nominated for Best Performance by an Actress in a Motion Picture - Drama
- Screen Actors Guild: Nominated for Outstanding Performance by a Female Actor in a Leading Role
- Critics' Choice Award: Nominated for Best Actress
- New York Film Critics Circle Awards: Won Best Actress
- Iowa Film Critics Awards: Won Best Actress (IFC Award)
- Satellite Award: Nominated for Best Actress in a Motion Picture, Drama
- BAFTA Award: Nominated 
- Palm Springs International Film Festival: Won the Icon Award

 

*edit so yes at least in terms of awards and recognition, Gaga is sort of still way ahead of any of the other pop girls. Maybe Billie and Adele come close with their song Oscars but they don't act 

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Close to it. Gaga had a much bigger peak, but Ariana has shown much more consistency and longevity. I'd say if Ariana comes back even harder with her next album, she will officially "surpass" Gaga.

Ariana has been bigger than Gaga every single year in the last 11 years so I'm inclined to say Ariana will surpass Gaga to the extent it has not happened already. 

Ariana been bigger since like 2018. Gaga's Peak was obviously bigger.

They both have very similar career trajectories but are both in their own lanes

no 

This year? oh definitely! Both musically and movie wise. 
 

overall? Not yet. Might be after she wins an Oscar and after Wicked part 2 

I don't know. Gaga is on the same lane as Britney and Beyoncé whereas Ariana is like part of another generation. I think it's hard to say something like this.

I think so. Gaga's first bang can't be matched of course, but she struggled a lot along the way and still does, while I think Ariana's constant growth (she was always succesful and yet she peaked with her fifth record!) makes her a way stronger artist.

If both were to collab again, we all know who will benefit from the other. Hope that answers your question