I've seen this crap several times on here recently and i don't get why those accusations are even allowed. Where's the proof that there's a a lot of racists within the fandom? Where does this even come from to begin with when i have yet to see ANY racism whatsoever by any Swiftie on here? 

Honestly, when the neonazis paraded her as their icon and she didn’t speak out it kind of cemented her as an Aryan idol. Back when she went political and went against Trump she should have used an INCH of her power and decried racism on a major scale. Call it for what it is. So I see why her fans get labeled as that…technically I know a lot of

My people that love her music but won’t stan for that same reason. As smart as she is I’d be a fool to think she wasn’t at least AWARE of how her image was being misrepresented. Is it fair for her fans? Not entirely but if y’all don’t call her out to speak out then what else is there? 

I know it’ll be hard to for ATRL to accept given his recent behavior but they have notoriously been racist towards Kanye in the past in the name of “defending her honor” or whatever they want to call it 

 

 

The toxic ones are the reason why Zero Tolerance Policy was enforced 

Honestly, I feel that racism accusations are being thrown around so casually in online spaces that the current racist movement in the US is a directly backlash against this. 
 

Look at the charts rn, you basically will smash on the charts if you start being racist.

Have you ever heard of SYG? (genuine question)

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Because there’s always a few bad apples in every fanbase. Taylor/Swifties are more vulnerable to the accusations because she got her start in country music which is heavily dominated by white artists and fans.

Is this a "post examples of Swifties being racist" thread

Because they stan the “Aryan Goddess” 

1 hour ago, RihFenty20 said:

Because they stan the “Aryan Goddess” 

What does that even mean? 

 

I would like to post detailed receipts but then I don't want to deal with -30 reports 

 

The long and short of it is:

 

-Taylor's /choice/ to stay silent or "apolitical" for YEARS, when she had a gigantic platform; choosing not to vehemently rebuke white supremacists who clung on to her (this isn't her fault that they did, but she ABSOLUTELY did delay the condemnation);

-Tay's white feminism;

-Demographics of the genre she started out in (country);

-Swifties having a lot of "isolated incidents" irl - you can argue this is because the base is larger than most, and has more weirdos, but still;

-Swifties engaging in a lot of documented harassment and microaggressions online (again, you can make the above bad apples argument if you want). 

 

There are honestly more things - her image, the way she chooses to selectively engage with idpol, and of course, the sound. 

 

This isn't to say that every Swiftie is racist - that's obv a stan war'd mess (& gets so deeply under y'alls skin fjvjvj ) but the crux of the issue I think is, that passive proximity to white supremacist attitudes/individual can sometimes read as complicit behaviour, especially when you DO have the power to distance yourself. 

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Because they are

 

1 hour ago, State of Grace. said:

Is this a "post examples of Swifties being racist" thread

Not at all, i just want to know why there's such blatant accusations like that against the whole fandom when if anything most of the fandom tend to be pretty woke, considering how people reacted to the Matty Healy stuff 

Honestly there’s not much to drag Taylor for in the last couple years

 

So her base, the color of her skin and other superficial drags are more common now

 

There are obviously some racists in every base, but these type of generalizations are redundant 

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6 minutes ago, Folklore89sm said:

Because there’s always a few bad apples in every fanbase.

Fair take. 

5 minutes ago, Phantom said:

I would like to post detailed receipts but then I don't want to deal with -30 reports 

 

The long and short of it is:

 

-Taylor's /choice/ to stay silent or "apolitical" for YEARS, when she had a gigantic platform; choosing not to vehemently rebuke white supremacists who clung on to her (this isn't her fault that they did, but she ABSOLUTELY did delay the condemnation);

-Tay's white feminism;

-Demographics of the genre she started out in (country);

-Swifties having a lot of "isolated incidents" irl - you can argue this is because the base is larger than most, and has more weirdos, but still;

-Swifties engaging in a lot of documented harassment and microaggressions online (again, you can make the above bad apples argument if you want). 

 

There are honestly more things - her image, the way she chooses to selectively engage with idpol, and of course, the sound. 

 

This isn't to say that every Swiftie is racist - that's obv a stan war'd mess (& gets so deeply under y'alls skin fjvjvj ) but the crux of the issue I think is, that passive proximity to white supremacist attitudes/individual can sometimes read as complicit behaviour, especially when you DO have the power to distance yourself. 

This! You put my exact thoughts together.

4 minutes ago, Trent W said:

Honestly there’s not much to drag Taylor for in the last couple years

 

So her base, the color of her skin and other superficial drags are more common now

 

There are obviously some racists in every base, but these type of generalizations are redundant 

This is spot on.

 

 

 

Taylena downvoting?

They must support this behavior. 

I think Swifties skew younger, and more Republican due to Taylor’s early apolitical work as well. I just think the fandom, more than any other fandom I’ve seen, will go to ANY length to protect their idol, it sometimes goes WAY beyond petty jabs. I frequently see Swifties mocking Beyoncé’s race outright, if not through veiled comments about her twerking or shaking her weave.