3 hours ago, BlueTimberwolf said:

Emancipation of Mimi - style comeback

TEOM was actually an overall massively successful era with MULTIPLE hits and an album that actually sold well.

no and she never will, Flowers was a fluke as we can tell because the rest of the album is a massive bomb and failed to do any numbers. 

Katy's catalogue of hits that are still loved & remembered washes Miley's, but Miley is much more iconic as a figure and celebrity 

Yes. Katy was able to get herself more hits during her commercial prime, but Miley has more longevity as a figure in pop music. I mean, she literally watched Katy's career in music come and go. 

 

When Katy showed up to the scene singing "you're so gay" or whatever, Miley was already a household name with 3 #1 Billboard 200 entries and millions of albums sold under her belt.

 

After both of them had a tough year in 2017, Miley came back with Plastic Hearts in 2020, which is bigger than anything Katy has released after 2014, and she has now the biggest hit of the year. We're all still waiting for Katy's comeback. 

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i feel like they're on the similar level now. both left a huge mark on pop culture and miley has flowers now but katy has so many more iconic songs and albums. 

LOL am I really seeing people refer to Temporary Summer Staycation as Miley’s Emancipation of Mimi???  Flowers was a total fluke, nobody is checking for its parent album and the follow up singles have all bombed. Miley may have “lasted” longer than Katy but Katy’s peak is bigger with two hit albums and multiple hit singles from each. 

Katy was huge but her career was short lived

 

Miley outlasted her

 

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Billboard - Greatest of All Time Artists

 

61. Katy Perry

62. Miley Cyrus

 

This was from 2018, btw. Current unofficial predictions already have Miley ahead of Katy, so the next official update will be interesting to see. 

Not yet. 

 

Even Katy is a flopped now but "Teenage Dream" and "Prism" are solidified her as a mega popstar and Miley hasn't surpass it yet. It was Katy Perry's bomt and oidia's size albums. 

Miley does have her moments, may be in the future if she keeps bumping hits after hits. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Isaiah said:

Katy's catalogue of hits that are still loved & remembered washes Miley's, but Miley is much more iconic as a figure and celebrity 

But were on numbersTRL, I was told iconinity and celebrity status arent measurable and therefore irrelevant?

10 hours ago, Khal said:

TEOM was actually an overall massively successful era with MULTIPLE hits and an album that actually sold well.

When is the last time any huge album had multiple hits though?

No. 

8 minutes ago, BlueTimberwolf said:

When is the last time any huge album had multiple hits though?

it's not that uncommon. harry dua beyonce the weeknd were all able to

if we include hannah montana, then miley has always been ahead.

 

if we’re talking about just miley’s music, then katy has it. teenage dream up until prism was just smash after smash. katy was huge.

29 minutes ago, BlueTimberwolf said:

When is the last time any huge album had multiple hits though?

Future Nostalgia, Sour, Un Verano Sin Ti

We should always include Hannah Montana, since it was Miley in that wig on our TV screens, it was Miley on stage touring ARENAS extensively, it was Miley's face plastered on all of the merchandise, etc etc etc.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Katy WILL NEVER have this.

 

pop culture icon

7 hours ago, BabyBenzz said:

no and she never will, Flowers was a fluke as we can tell because the rest of the album is a massive bomb and failed to do any numbers. 

Endless Summer Vacation was released barely three months ago and it's already on track to outsell Katy's last two albums (2,268,000), just like Plastic Hearts did.

 

Plastic Hearts (2020) - 3,012,000 (3,721,269 daily streams)

Witness Deluxe (2017) - 2,770,000 (273,662 daily streams)

Smile (2020) - 2,495,000 (685,845 daily streams)

 

Miley Cyrus / Hannah Montana was already a household name before Katy Perry released her debut album. She just scored the biggest hit of the year 17 years into her career and could possibly snag a Grammy in 2024. Take off the nostalgia goggles, please.

Yes. Katy's only memorable era is TD and it's thanks to nostalgia. Roar is only doing big numbers on YouTube because parents play it for their kids as distraction/background music  

 

 

11 hours ago, Love Again said:

But were on numbersTRL, I was told iconinity and celebrity status arent measurable and therefore irrelevant?

They're irrelevant in most ATRL discussions because this site's topics tend to be debating who has the bigger music career between 2 pop stars. In those debates, numbers just give us the objectively-correct answer, so iconic looks and serves don't matter. 

 

I might've misread the OPs intentions, but from my understanding this was an open-ended question since "surpassed Katy" can mean various things. In this case, no, her music career hasn't surpassed Katy's, but her celebrity status has. 

I don't know. She's sold more albums but Katy had more hits and her touring gross is bigger.

I feel like Miley has her country + rock covers to lean on. She's highly respected in the music industry for her versatility even though she's never hit a commercial peak like Katy's. Legacy wise... it's really a toss-up because Miley has Hannah + hits while Katy a string of very iconic hits that will live on for generations. 

 

Relevance today? Miley

Overall music career? Katy

She already surpassed her long time ago. 

 

Katy had a way bigger peak but Miley had more longevity post Younger Now era

 

Teenage Dream is top 100 on the Billboard 200 and Miley doesn't have anything like that 

8 hours ago, Isaiah said:

They're irrelevant in most ATRL discussions because this site's topics tend to be debating who has the bigger music career between 2 pop stars. In those debates, numbers just give us the objectively-correct answer, so iconic looks and serves don't matter. 

 

I might've misread the OPs intentions, but from my understanding this was an open-ended question since "surpassed Katy" can mean various things. In this case, no, her music career hasn't surpassed Katy's, but her celebrity status has. 

I guess I was going more for music, since Miley has always been a bigger celeb