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K-Pop Thread: 2023 Archive

This is part 1 of the K-Pop Thread: 2023 Archive discussion.

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8 minutes ago, Sept said:

 

 

 

1 year already and it's aging like fine wine :jonny: 

 

One of their best :jonny5:

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1 minute ago, cloudbusting said:


so many incredible details in this :jonny6:

this was so much better than Birthday 


This is one of thee most catchiest kpop songs in history and I’m being forreal. Out of all the old nugu bg songs I always come back to this

 

the video (and their concept lmao) is sooo of its time. Nostalgia to the max 

1 hour ago, Josh said:

May I ask - why don't you like Blinks? 

  • Selective outrage for issues that they no longer care about when it's BP - Weaponizing serious issues that harm people to further stan agendas
    • See Mel dragging NewJeans daily for most of a year for being underage and daring to release music that suggests a dating life but then choosing to be left out of a discussion of Stink's underage sister group having company cameras in the shower.
    • See the Blinks in this thread a few pages back bringing up wendy making a face and doing an accent but leaving out their favs being infinitely more guilty of enforcing racist social structures through cheap cultural appropriation and using even more AAVE than Wendy ever has but with a straight face.
    • There's literally countless examples of this. Things like human rights aren't there for winning arguments. 

 

  • The most delusional kpop base of all time
    • Truly believe they aren't just the biggest gen 3 gg, not just the #1 ww kpop group, but the biggest Girl Group alive despite there being no quantitative data to support any of those
    • Pretending their members are talented or in more creative control than the average idol then try to give out lashings based off that false assumption
    • For a short period, they even had beef with BTS army because they legitimately thought their own favs were more popular

 

  • Specifically on ATRL though:
    • They've stalked people onto other websites
    • Coordinated mass reports of posts to try and get people banned
    • One time one of them had post notifications turned on for me and would quote me in every single thread I posted in for a few days because I pointed out that YG constantly uses false dating rumors to prop up Jennie's career.
    • A few of them have abused duplicate accounts to get around posting restrictions but because this thread is less moderated until it goes into ZTP territory or severe personal attacks nothing gets done about it.
    • A more recent example of how pathologically obsessed with non-fans they are is the user who subbed me twice in the past few hours and then quoted you about me

 

  • They're "musicians" that have no musical talent.
    • Rose is the exception(underrated vocals I fear)

 

  • Misogyny permeates every aspect of the group's careers
    • Pick me girl image
    • Solo activities being picked off of who's the prettiest instead of who has the most talent(This is a complete 180 from literally every other YG group, GD is one ugly ass idol and is allowed to be the face of the whole company, for example).
    • YG announcing the group's main intent being to be pretty(because that's all that organization values about women in general) before they were even close to debuting or even had a lineup picked out.
    • Their media presence revolves exclusively around wearing nice clothes and who they're dating(I might get chased into non-kpop threads again for bringing that back up but it's true and still repulsive :snowman:)
    • The whole idea of their girl crush image became nauseating to me once YG was outed as a thinly veiled sex trafficking/prostitution ring.

 

  • There's also an enormous gap in media literacy for a lot of them(not being able to recognize paid promotions, gloating about music reviews from non-music publications, gloating about brand deals that are often local to Asia or even just Korea as a sign of global relevancy, 

 

In general most fans of any pop artist stan for the musical output, but Black Stink has next to no music to speak of and zero potential to improve or grow musically while they're chained to Teddy, so the vast majority decided to stan because they saw enormous stream numbers(that were accomplished through SEA bot farms). This makes Black Pink have a concentration of the worst, most mentally unstable type of stan, which would be the ones who live vicariously through their favs success. For that type of fan, an attack on their fav is an attack on their own self worth, and by extension, any comment that disagrees with their fake #1 GG reality is a personal attack on them because success is all they have to cling to. This also feeds back into the first point because they are compulsively drawn to attack fans of any artist they see as a threat at every possible opportunity for any reason they can think of. Every base for a big name act has those people but Blinks seem to have a much higher proportion.

 

For these reasons, hypocrisy, misogyny, lack of musical or industry understanding, massive gaps in reasoning, and confidently jumping to outlandish conclusions are all markers of Blink logic™.

 

Hope the 900 page essay clears things up. My best friend is a Blink and I liked most of their early music so outside of the stan world where you can't discuss any girl group without being bombarded by hateful morons I really don't care. Sorry to take up an entire page but I wanted to be thorough. :gayorkcat2:

Edited by Century

Just now, Century said:
  • Selective outrage for issues that they no longer care about when it's BP - Weaponizing serious issues that harm people to further stan agendas
    • See Mel dragging NewJeans daily for most of a year for being underage and daring to release music that suggests a dating life but then choosing to be left out of a discussion of Stink's underage sister group having company cameras in the shower.
    • See the Blinks in this thread a few pages back bringing up wendy making a face and doing an accent but leaving out their favs being infinitely more guilty of appropriating racist social structures through cheap cultural appropriation and using even more AAVE than Wendy ever has but with a straight face.
    • There's literally countless examples of this. Things like human rights aren't there for winning arguments. 

 

  • The most delusional kpop base of all time
    • Truly believe they aren't just the biggest gen 3 gg, not just the #1 ww kpop group, but the biggest Girl Group alive despite there being no quantitative data to support any of those
    • Pretending their members are talented or in more creative control than the average idol then try to give out lashings based off that false assumption
    • For a short period, they even had beef with BTS army because they legitimately thought their own favs were more popular

 

  • Specifically on ATRL though:
    • They've stalked people onto other websites
    • Coordinated mass reports of posts to try and get people banned
    • One time one of them had post notifications turned on for me and would quote me in every single thread I posted in for a few days because I pointed out that YG constantly uses false dating rumors to prop up Jennie's career.
    • A few of them have abused duplicate accounts to get around posting restrictions but because this thread is less moderated until it goes into ZTP territory or severe personal attacks nothing gets done about it.
    • A more recent example of how pathologically obsessed with non-fans they are is the user who subbed me twice in the past few hours and then quoted you about me

 

  • They're "musicians" that have no musical talent.
    • Rose is the exception(underrated vocals I fear)

 

  • Misogyny permeates every aspect of the group's careers
    • Pick me girl image
    • Solo activities being picked off of who's the prettiest instead of who has the most talent(This is a complete 180 from literally every other YG group, GD is one ugly ass idol and is allowed to be the face of the whole company, for example).
    • YG announcing the group's main intent being to be pretty(because that's all that organization values about women in general) before they were even close to debuting or even had a lineup picked out.
    • Their media presence revolves exclusively around wearing nice clothes and who they're dating(I might get chased into non-kpop threads again for bringing that back up but it's true and still repulsive :snowman:)
    • The whole idea of their girl crush image became nauseating to me once YG was outed as a thinly veiled sex trafficking/prostitution ring.

 

  • There's also an enormous gap in media literacy for a lot of them(not being able to recognize paid promotions, gloating about music reviews from non-music publications, gloating about brand deals that are often local to Asia or even just Korea as a sign of global relevancy, 

 

In general most fans of any pop artist stan for the musical output, but Black Stink has next to no music to speak of and zero potential to improve or grow musically while they're chained to Teddy, so the vast majority decided to stan because they saw enormous stream numbers(that were accomplished through SEA bot farms). This makes Black Pink have a concentration of the worst, most mentally unstable type of stan, which would be the ones who live vicariously through their favs success. For that type of fan, an attack on their fav is an attack on their own self worth, and by extension, any comment that disagrees with their fake #1 GG reality is a personal attack on them because success if all they have to cling to. This also feeds back into the first point because they are compulsively drawn to attack fans of any artist they see as a threat at every possible opportunity. Every base for a big name act has those people but Blinks seem to have a much higher proportion.

 

For these reasons, hypocrisy, misogyny, lack of musical or industry understanding, massive gaps in reasoning, and confidently jumping to outlandish conclusions are all markers of Blink logic™.

 

Hope the 900 page essay clears things up. My best friend is a Blink and I liked most of their early music so outside of the stan world where you can't discuss any girl group without being bombarded by hateful morons I really don't care. Sorry to take up an entire page but I wanted to be thorough. :gayorkcat2:

oh wow :clap3:

2 minutes ago, Century said:
  • Selective outrage for issues that they no longer care about when it's BP - Weaponizing serious issues that harm people to further stan agendas
    • See Mel dragging NewJeans daily for most of a year for being underage and daring to release music that suggests a dating life but then choosing to be left out of a discussion of Stink's underage sister group having company cameras in the shower.
    • See the Blinks in this thread a few pages back bringing up wendy making a face and doing an accent but leaving out their favs being infinitely more guilty of appropriating racist social structures through cheap cultural appropriation and using even more AAVE than Wendy ever has but with a straight face.
    • There's literally countless examples of this. Things like human rights aren't there for winning arguments. 

 

  • The most delusional kpop base of all time
    • Truly believe they aren't just the biggest gen 3 gg, not just the #1 ww kpop group, but the biggest Girl Group alive despite there being no quantitative data to support any of those
    • Pretending their members are talented or in more creative control than the average idol then try to give out lashings based off that false assumption
    • For a short period, they even had beef with BTS army because they legitimately thought their own favs were more popular

 

  • Specifically on ATRL though:
    • They've stalked people onto other websites
    • Coordinated mass reports of posts to try and get people banned
    • One time one of them had post notifications turned on for me and would quote me in every single thread I posted in for a few days because I pointed out that YG constantly uses false dating rumors to prop up Jennie's career.
    • A few of them have abused duplicate accounts to get around posting restrictions but because this thread is less moderated until it goes into ZTP territory or severe personal attacks nothing gets done about it.
    • A more recent example of how pathologically obsessed with non-fans they are is the user who subbed me twice in the past few hours and then quoted you about me

 

  • They're "musicians" that have no musical talent.
    • Rose is the exception(underrated vocals I fear)

 

  • Misogyny permeates every aspect of the group's careers
    • Pick me girl image
    • Solo activities being picked off of who's the prettiest instead of who has the most talent(This is a complete 180 from literally every other YG group, GD is one ugly ass idol and is allowed to be the face of the whole company, for example).
    • YG announcing the group's main intent being to be pretty(because that's all that organization values about women in general) before they were even close to debuting or even had a lineup picked out.
    • Their media presence revolves exclusively around wearing nice clothes and who they're dating(I might get chased into non-kpop threads again for bringing that back up but it's true and still repulsive :snowman:)
    • The whole idea of their girl crush image became nauseating to me once YG was outed as a thinly veiled sex trafficking/prostitution ring.

 

  • There's also an enormous gap in media literacy for a lot of them(not being able to recognize paid promotions, gloating about music reviews from non-music publications, gloating about brand deals that are often local to Asia or even just Korea as a sign of global relevancy, 

 

In general most fans of any pop artist stan for the musical output, but Black Stink has next to no music to speak of and zero potential to improve or grow musically while they're chained to Teddy, so the vast majority decided to stan because they saw enormous stream numbers(that were accomplished through SEA bot farms). This makes Black Pink have a concentration of the worst, most mentally unstable type of stan, which would be the ones who live vicariously through their favs success. For that type of fan, an attack on their fav is an attack on their own self worth, and by extension, any comment that disagrees with their fake #1 GG reality is a personal attack on them because success if all they have to cling to. This also feeds back into the first point because they are compulsively drawn to attack fans of any artist they see as a threat at every possible opportunity. Every base for a big name act has those people but Blinks seem to have a much higher proportion.

 

For these reasons, hypocrisy, misogyny, lack of musical or industry understanding, massive gaps in reasoning, and confidently jumping to outlandish conclusions are all markers of Blink logic™.

 

Hope the 900 page essay clears things up. My best friend is a Blink and I liked most of their early music so outside of the stan world where you can't discuss any girl group without being bombarded by hateful morons I really don't care. Sorry to take up an entire page but I wanted to be thorough. :gayorkcat2:

Speak your truth :clap3:

I do think it's a selective outrage regarding baemon filming they're washing dolls in the bathroom. 

Why now, when many idols and people vlogging their bathroom routines

 

 

 

1 minute ago, PerfectSacrifice said:

Wow an entire essay:rip:

the obsession.. i know her room look like this

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6 minutes ago, Froufrou said:

I do think it's a selective outrage regarding baemon filming they're washing dolls in the bathroom. 

Why now, when many idols and people vlogging their bathroom routines

 

 

 

No. No matter how much you want to normalize it, putting cams up in the corner of minors bathrooms is not okay, especially regarding a company -> talent relationship. :mazen:

22 minutes ago, Century said:
  • Selective outrage for issues that they no longer care about when it's BP - Weaponizing serious issues that harm people to further stan agendas
    • See Mel dragging NewJeans daily for most of a year for being underage and daring to release music that suggests a dating life but then choosing to be left out of a discussion of Stink's underage sister group having company cameras in the shower.
    • See the Blinks in this thread a few pages back bringing up wendy making a face and doing an accent but leaving out their favs being infinitely more guilty of enforcing racist social structures through cheap cultural appropriation and using even more AAVE than Wendy ever has but with a straight face.
    • There's literally countless examples of this. Things like human rights aren't there for winning arguments. 

 

  • The most delusional kpop base of all time
    • Truly believe they aren't just the biggest gen 3 gg, not just the #1 ww kpop group, but the biggest Girl Group alive despite there being no quantitative data to support any of those
    • Pretending their members are talented or in more creative control than the average idol then try to give out lashings based off that false assumption
    • For a short period, they even had beef with BTS army because they legitimately thought their own favs were more popular

 

  • Specifically on ATRL though:
    • They've stalked people onto other websites
    • Coordinated mass reports of posts to try and get people banned
    • One time one of them had post notifications turned on for me and would quote me in every single thread I posted in for a few days because I pointed out that YG constantly uses false dating rumors to prop up Jennie's career.
    • A few of them have abused duplicate accounts to get around posting restrictions but because this thread is less moderated until it goes into ZTP territory or severe personal attacks nothing gets done about it.
    • A more recent example of how pathologically obsessed with non-fans they are is the user who subbed me twice in the past few hours and then quoted you about me

 

  • They're "musicians" that have no musical talent.
    • Rose is the exception(underrated vocals I fear)

 

  • Misogyny permeates every aspect of the group's careers
    • Pick me girl image
    • Solo activities being picked off of who's the prettiest instead of who has the most talent(This is a complete 180 from literally every other YG group, GD is one ugly ass idol and is allowed to be the face of the whole company, for example).
    • YG announcing the group's main intent being to be pretty(because that's all that organization values about women in general) before they were even close to debuting or even had a lineup picked out.
    • Their media presence revolves exclusively around wearing nice clothes and who they're dating(I might get chased into non-kpop threads again for bringing that back up but it's true and still repulsive :snowman:)
    • The whole idea of their girl crush image became nauseating to me once YG was outed as a thinly veiled sex trafficking/prostitution ring.

 

  • There's also an enormous gap in media literacy for a lot of them(not being able to recognize paid promotions, gloating about music reviews from non-music publications, gloating about brand deals that are often local to Asia or even just Korea as a sign of global relevancy, 

 

In general most fans of any pop artist stan for the musical output, but Black Stink has next to no music to speak of and zero potential to improve or grow musically while they're chained to Teddy, so the vast majority decided to stan because they saw enormous stream numbers(that were accomplished through SEA bot farms). This makes Black Pink have a concentration of the worst, most mentally unstable type of stan, which would be the ones who live vicariously through their favs success. For that type of fan, an attack on their fav is an attack on their own self worth, and by extension, any comment that disagrees with their fake #1 GG reality is a personal attack on them because success is all they have to cling to. This also feeds back into the first point because they are compulsively drawn to attack fans of any artist they see as a threat at every possible opportunity for any reason they can think of. Every base for a big name act has those people but Blinks seem to have a much higher proportion.

 

For these reasons, hypocrisy, misogyny, lack of musical or industry understanding, massive gaps in reasoning, and confidently jumping to outlandish conclusions are all markers of Blink logic™.

 

Hope the 900 page essay clears things up. My best friend is a Blink and I liked most of their early music so outside of the stan world where you can't discuss any girl group without being bombarded by hateful morons I really don't care. Sorry to take up an entire page but I wanted to be thorough. :gayorkcat2:

Oh wow. :clap3:

Just now, fauxtography said:

No. No matter how much you want to normalize it, putting cams up in the corner of minors bathrooms is not okay, especially regarding a company -> talent relationship. :mazen:

But papa YG is like a parent to his idols. How is this any different from family vlogging?  :smitten2:

the baemon/yg situation is so ****** cus thing is, we're only seeing footage that's published.. im scared to what extent are the girls being monitored bts.. 

1 minute ago, fauxtography said:

No. No matter how much you want to normalize it, putting cams up in the corner of minors bathrooms is not okay, especially regarding a company -> talent relationship. :mazen:

But like, be consistent then... Why persistent on thinking weird things watching them washing dolls. But not the other idols and vloggers' video lmao

2 minutes ago, Century said:

But papa YG is like a parent to his idols. How is this any different from family vlogging?  :smitten2:

Papa yg and lsm and other ceo put camera in idols bedroom too. Creepy 

It's about time JYP pushes Ryujin.

 

Even if the ggs aren't always successful as a full group, there are so many potential it girls in the company who should be dominating the industry.

6 minutes ago, fauxtography said:

No. No matter how much you want to normalize it, putting cams up in the corner of minors bathrooms is not okay, especially regarding a company -> talent relationship. :mazen:

Minor or adult bit that's another discussion. But yeah.

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