6 minutes ago, Zack said:

Hopefully more tea comes out of this EXO-CBX lawsuit...

but wasn't exo supposed to come back soon?  This entire situation is  weird 

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6 minutes ago, Gwendolyn said:

It's worse, they wanted 17-18 years for RENEWED CONTRACTS

I'm guessing that actually, it might have been 2012-2022 (7 years initial contract, plus 3 year extension, all signed at debut), then in 2022 they signed another 3 year extension (which would total 12-13 years, Lay didn't extend and left at this point) but it seems SM wanted to force yet another extension which would bring the total up to around 17 years.

 

Legally SM can't create a single contract of longer than 7 years, because the law in Korea changed some time in 2013-2014 after TVXQ/JYJ's lawsuit and other legal problems with entertainment/slave contracts, which forced the government to restrict to a maximum of 7 years.

 

However, EXO Tao and Luhan's lawsuits (and Jessica's book) revealed that SM gets around this by making their artists sign extensions instead. A mess.

 

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This is WILD

SM is so ghetto 

3 minutes ago, Queenyoncee said:

but wasn't exo supposed to come back soon?  This entire situation is  weird 

Yeah that timing is weird, but it's probably strategic, since they've hired lawyers and must have gotten advice. It seems like this has been building behind the scenes for months.

 

Kai's sudden enlistment seems even weirder now too, with this news.

EXO without Baekhyun will feel so weird to me, he is literally the face of the group. 

1 minute ago, Zack said:

Yeah that timing is weird, but it's probably strategic, since they've hired lawyers and must have gotten advice. It seems like this has been building behind the scenes for months.

 

Kai's sudden enlistment seems even weirder now too, with this news.

I wonder if the boys had agreed to do the comeback as part of some kind of bargaining piece. SM was sitting on an easy 2M+ seller but they didn’t want to give their artists a bigger cut  

15 minutes ago, Queenyoncee said:

I need Yawn and the others from SNSD to leave as well because SM is a mess the last few years

 

Literally! I need Seohyun to pull a Jay Park and build a GG Umbrella label for all the girls. 

2 minutes ago, kendoll2001 said:

This will not end well. JYJ 2.0

Damn that exo news SHOOK ME. Can't believe we're having exo drama in 2023.
 

Ppl always talked about how SM is able to keep legacy acts around compared to other companies but not even. If anything they have groups that are ok still performing without all the original members. Ie. Super Junior and TVXQ. SNSD is barely active. And now EXO is falling apart. Legacy means **** if this is how they do it lol 

this is so random cause they showed no signals of this   

i wish they had waited for after the comeback tho 

6 minutes ago, Zack said:

I'm guessing that actually, it might have been 2012-2022 (7 years initial contract, plus 3 year extension, all signed at debut), then in 2022 they signed another 3 year extension (which would total 12-13 years, Lay didn't extend and left at this point) but it seems SM wanted to force yet another extension which would bring the total up to around 17 years.

 

Legally SM can't create a single contract of longer than 7 years, because the law in Korea changed some time in 2013-2014 after TVXQ/JYJ's lawsuit and other legal problems with entertainment/slave contracts, which forced the government to restrict to a maximum of 7 years.

 

However, EXO Tao and Luhan's lawsuits (and Jessica's book) revealed that SM gets around this by making their artists sign extensions instead. A mess.

 

Disgusting 

There must be dealings with CBX that weren't fulfilled considering those three are the ones that left... this is all very weird 

Today has been filled with shocking news 

EXO basically has to disband now if this fully doesn't get figured out idek what to think 

I feel like it would be a huge disservice if exo continues. Would be like the whole TVXQ situation... Are we really going to have the group without two of its main vocals and the other main vocal left who cares more about acting... 

 

I know Suho gives management track vibes but I hope him and the other members don't just stay at SM. A group with just him, DO, Chanyeol, Kai, and Sehun would be bad af 

1 minute ago, lgaga1fan said:

EXO basically has to disband now if this fully doesn't get figured out idek what to think 

They could continue as a 5 member group (well technically 6, but I don't see Lay performing with them again). Plus, many of them can remain active as soloists (or debut solo), so there's still value in the EXO brand that SM will not let go of easily.

 

Suho, Chanyeol, D.O, Kai, Sehun (and Lay).

 

2 minutes ago, Gwendolyn said:

Is anyone left in EXO at this point?

D.O. (Probably suing) Kai (Military) Sehun, Suho, & Chanyeol (over)

1 minute ago, Zack said:

They could continue as a 5 member group (well technically 6, but I don't see Lay performing with them again). Plus, many of them can remain active as soloists (or debut solo), so there's still value in the EXO brand that SM will not let go of easily.

 

Suho, Chanyeol, D.O, Kai, Sehun (and Lay).

 

Lay left last year 

Just now, Zack said:

They could continue as a 5 member group (well technically 6, but I don't see Lay performing with them again). Plus, many of them can remain active as soloists (or debut solo), so there's still value in the EXO brand that SM will not let go of easily.

 

Suho, Chanyeol, D.O, Kai, Sehun (and Lay).

 

I agree that there's definitely value but Kai wont be back for a long time, theyre missing 2/3 vocal backpieces from their ENTIRE discog, D.O. hardly seems interested in being an idol... just doesn't seem feasible at all. Its giving F(X) and TVXQ but worse. 

Maybe this is why kai was so frustrated about the enlistment stuff, he knew it was going to be the last comeback with the full group.

This is so sad. I hate SM.

why is it always sm 

SM says that there are outside forces approaching SM artists and offering false/incorrect legal advice and making suggestions that the artists can ignore their exclusive obligations and sign new contracts. SM plans to file legal action. 

 

https://twitter.com/tmikpop/status/1664081828444004352?s=61&t=0dYeKWXArrO353_EVtZ5zg

 

 

not "outside forces" sm be serious for once challenge

Just now, ANTisocial said:

Lay left last year 

He left SM on expiry of the 10 years, but his official statement didn't say he left EXO.

 

Given the precedent SNSD have set (with Tiffany, Sooyoung and Seohyun returning despite no longer being in the company), it is a (very faint) possibility which is why I included him.