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Beyoncé

This is part 1 of the Beyoncé discussion.

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Whitney Houston's estate released a Gospel album in 2023 of Whitney Houston's unreleased studio recordings at 14-18 right before her 1983 solo Arista records deal, and as SOON as I heard this record I thought a cover/interpolation of this would've been the perfect way to transition from the 90s vocal-heavy dance music of "Break My Soul" to the Clark Sisters-sampling "Church Girl" by using the quintessential Church Girl - turned - Pop vocalist herself. That was the only transition I didn't generally like on Renny. Thoughts?

 

 

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Is Act 3 an actual album or do you think it's something else?

5 hours ago, R.E.M. said:

Nah Amen is stunning. The way it subtly calls back to American Requiiem too >

It's also her last loud plea to her ancestors. It's a flawless connection to the album.

It's days like today that i'm most grateful to be a Beyonce stan because the music will never be the problem.  

4 hours ago, ToraeGilt said:

Y'all need to stop with this narrative. The GP is very much aware of the trilogy and it's actually the most noticeable attempt of any artist(including the weekend). The rollout out is a bit sloppy for us fans but when it's all said and done this trilogy will be a highlight of career. 

Or, we can simply be realistic. The general public are not concerned with double act or trilogy act in the streaming era. That's not a slight to this current conundrum project, but reality. They listen to radio, they listen to streaming playlist, they may play the previews or lyric videos once and they go to the tours in the summer. 
 

The GP is not concerned with the ins & outs of a three act project, they're not staying tuned for 6-8 years for a well explained conclusion or music videos. Before "BEYONCÉ BOWL" and the tour announcement, the GP were already done with this current era because there was nothing going on for MONTHS! I'm sure Bey will have her Instagram video explaining why she birth the trilogy era in the end, they'll watch and still won't exactly care.
 

Eras are for die hard fan bases. WE are enthralled in the trilogy, mainly because most artist don't even make it to their Volume 2, let alone Act III. WE are on the edge of our seats to get insider leaks and waiting for what's next. WE will be reminded of this era in time, when Bey took such a gamble and it paid off. . . years later, but still. The general public will move on after the tour, until she's ready to put out Act III. 

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So I listened to Gagas album after reading the reaction in the Mayham thread expecting something ... good? Mind you I really enjoyed Abracadabra. Im at Killah now and how can I put it without sounding mean.. its giving Twilight Soundtrack. Thats what I have to think of constantly. Jennie's Ruby Album is infinitely better, which is a shocker to me

 

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ppl know a trilogy exist but i wish she put in more effort to make it a moment/career highlight.

The long-lasting success/impact of the Trilogy will depend on the packaging and roll out of Act 3. The way this has been managed so far has been TERRIBLE. However, the aoty win and the blockbuster world tours will be remembered. My biggest worry is how she rounds up the Trilogy in a way that makes sense for us fans? I feel like visuals of any kind will make minimal impact at this point. Also, Act 2 and Act 1 probably won't be charting by the time she rolls out Act 3. Which won't be a good look. I honestly thought she wanted the Trilogy to be looked at as her magnum opus but the way it's being handled does not inspire confidence that it will be viewed that way by the general public. And ultimately Bey's biggest issue is her aversion to a good singles roll out. The fact that she did Beyonce bowl 9 months later with no single on the radio, and next month she's going on tour for an album that has no presence on the Hot 100...whoever lied to her and convinced her singles aren't necessary ****** things up for us fr. Whatever boost she gets from touring will be temporary and fleeting and CC era will be over as soon as the tour ends...until Act 3. Rinse and repeat.LMFAO

ii things can be true at once.

 

people know about the trilogy, they are aware bey did a dance/disco ball era and now it's a cowboy hat/yee haw era. 

 

but the gp isn't tuned into any of our conversations and they wouldn't instantly recognize any of the songs besides Cuff It/Texas.

 

because, the reality is, they never did! you think people cared about "Disappear" off of Sasha Fierce? do you think anyone bought that album because of it? 

 

she wants to make "albums" a thing and I commend her for it. most people do not listen to full albums unless they're a fan of you.

18 minutes ago, kimberly said:

 

 you think people cared about "Disappear" off of Sasha Fierce? do you think anyone bought that album because of it? 

 

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The thing with this base is people are either too harsh on Beyoncé or kiss her behind too much, it's almost nauseating at times. The middle-ground takes are rare lol. 

 

The trilogy will be remembered imo, it could have been something legendary in the proportion of The Dark Side of The Moon/The Wall or Thriller-like in terms of impact but way more success is necessary for that, still it will be remembered as a great musical offering and excellent tours to boot. People who follow music are also aware of it, before the release of CC, one of my friends talked to me about it. 

 

At least she somehow makes an effort to have a lead single and give it some room to grow before abandoning every thing. It at least signals to people and make them aware a new era or part of the trilogy is debuting, since it's the only time she does anything at all outside of the tours. :dies: Still pushing other singles would have done so good for those albums in the long term. People listening to a song like Virgo or Plastic Off The Sofa all the time (radio or Spotify) when they've heard BMS/Heated or CI before gives depth to her work. She succeeded a bit with CC because I might be delusional but I think THE, 16C and Yaya might be a bit known. And the tour might (a big might) add to that Daughter, Bodyguard and American Requiem hopefully. 

 

I agree that however she choses to wrap up the trilogy will be a defining factor to how it transcends generations. 

 

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32 minutes ago, BnPac said:

The thing with this base is people are either too harsh on Beyoncé or kiss her behind too much, it's almost nauseating at times. The middle-ground takes are rare lol. 

 

The trilogy will be remembered imo, it could have been something legendary in the proportion of The Dark Side of The Moon/The Wall or Thriller-like in terms of impact but way more success is necessary for that, still it will be remembered as a great musical offering and excellent tours to boot. People who follow music are also aware of it, before the release of CC, one of my friends talked to me about it. 

 

At least she somehow makes an effort to have a lead single and give it some room to grow before abandoning every thing. It at least signals to people and make them aware a new era or part of the trilogy is debuting, since it's the only time she does anything at all outside of the tours. :dies: Still pushing other singles would have done so good for those albums in the long term. People listening to a song like Virgo or Plastic Off The Sofa all the time (radio or Spotify) when they've heard BMS/Heated or CI before gives depth to her work. She succeeded a bit with CC because I might be delusional but I think THE, 16C and Yaya might be a bit known. And the tour might (a big might) add to that Daughter, Bodyguard and American Requiem hopefully. 

 

I agree that however she choses to wrap up the trilogy will be a defining factor to how it transcends generations. 

 

She clearly had tons of ideas and a strong message to say when creating this. Act III is the last chance to execute them and hopefully she does follow up. There must be a huge bow to tie all this, then again it can easily be wishful thinking as a Stan and she'll simply let the "work speak for itself" which is annoying and her easy out for anything. 
 

The tour is coming so there's that to look forward to at least, hopefully she follows up Act III as soon as she did CC once the RWT ended. 
 

 

5 hours ago, Chris said:

Is Act 3 an actual album or do you think it's something else?

can we please not do this again hahaha we know it's an album!

5 hours ago, Chris said:

Is Act 3 an actual album or do you think it's something else?

Texas Hold 'Em producer Killah B, two weeks ago, about Act III:

"I'm currently working on B's next project." 

"What are the details on the B's next project? What is that?"

"It's gonna be amazing!"

 

I don't know why some still don't realize Act III is an album, meaning music.

 

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1 hour ago, beyonceparkwood said:

Texas Hold 'Em producer Killah B, two weeks ago, about Act III:

"I'm currently working on B's next project." 

"What are the details on the B's next project? What is that?"

"It's gonna be amazing!"

 

I don't know why some still don't realize Act III is an album, meaning music.

 

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i like some of the new nose album but damn, the way act III will mop the floor with this just like Ren did with traumatica :sabrina:

So are we assuming Telephone pt.2 will be in act 3? I cant believe Bey would let gaga talk about it so freely without her consent.

5 hours ago, Devin said:

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Devin can you step into the office for a bit?

 

6 hours ago, satellites.™ said:

It's also her last loud plea to her ancestors. It's a flawless connection to the album.

It's one of my favorite album closers perhaps ever

43 minutes ago, RIKI232 said:

So are we assuming Telephone pt.2 will be in act 3? I cant believe Bey would let gaga talk about it so freely without her consent.

I think Gaga said that bc she's tired of being asked about it, not bc they actually have something planned...

2 hours ago, RIKI232 said:

So are we assuming Telephone pt.2 will be in act 3? I cant believe Bey would let gaga talk about it so freely without her consent.

No one ever said Telephone pt. 2 includes Bey. Gaga might just refer to the storyline presented in Telephone which could continue on its own

3 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

No one ever said Telephone pt. 2 includes Bey. Gaga might just refer to the storyline presented in Telephone which could continue on its own

Exactly. If that ever happens, it will 100% be a solo thing. I don't see Beyoncé doing that anymore. 

 

Speaking of, I saw the video of her talking about it on twitter. She was doing some sort of live q&a for her album, imagine if Beyoncé did something like that after all this 3 acts no visuals yada yada nonsense :ahh: people would be so unhinged

2 hours ago, RIKI232 said:

So are we assuming Telephone pt.2 will be in act 3? I cant believe Bey would let gaga talk about it so freely without her consent.

 

i think whatever Telephone Pt 2 is about will come from Gaga and on HER project...not Beyonce. 

 

all i see are Monsters & Gaga trying to make fetch happen with that

 

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