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Beyoncé

This is part 1 of the Beyoncé discussion.

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1 hour ago, Triton said:

Entering her Auntie phase. :nicole:

Gorl shes a grandma the only one left in the charts that was there during her rookie days is Eminem and thats on the album charts. Mariah if her Christmas boost counts.

 

Basically no one from her era is really left that does numbers the way she does till this day!

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1 hour ago, PrudenceHCharmed said:

How many breaks does she need? Six years break wasn't enough?

:deadbanana2:

8 minutes ago, MingYouToo said:

Not trying to drag Mimi bc I love her and shes one of my faves but I think her case of longevity is v different from Beyoncé's. I will stand by my belief that if Renaissance is a smash era she'll be the female artist with the best longevity ever!

 

Mariah's mainstream presence as an 'in/cool' artist lasted from 1990-2013 (#Beautiful's radio domination), 23 years. Even then one can argue Obsessed was the last time people were genuinely invested in her as a current artist (2010). I really believe that AIWFCIY shouldn't really count as a proof of Mariah's longevity bc I lowkey feel like that song has a life of its own, its almost like the Christmas National Anthem. Regardless if people know Mariah, they KNOW that song. Bey's case is different (in a good way)

 

Beyoncé had her first hit in 1998 with No x3, 25 years later she's launching a global Top 5 lead single and getting 500k likes on Twitter for just an album cover reveal. She's not Ariana levels of social media power but the only girls who can pull that level of engagement online for music is Ariana, Taylor and Adele, all artists who've gone mainstream at least a decade after her. Her longevity is that people are still INVESTED in what she has to offer as an artist, both the album and the hits! That kind of longevity is unparalleled its honestly INSANE!

 

Madonna went from Everybody in 1983 to 4 Minutes in 2008 (25 years)

 

Mariah went from Vision of Love in 1990 to #Beautiful in 2013 (23 years)

 

Beyoncé went from No, No, No in 1997 to BREAK MY SOUL in 2022 (25 years)

 

If Renaissance bags another smash and an even bigger one I have no doubt she'll still be in the game 30 years in!

Theres one legend ur missing here: The one and only, Cher

 

Bang Bang (1965) - Believe (1998) = 33 years :jonny:

 

Such a legendary career.

13 minutes ago, *-ChriZ-* said:

Theres one legend ur missing here: The one and only, Cher

 

Bang Bang (1965) - Believe (1998) = 33 years :jonny:

 

Such a legendary career.

She's a legend, but does she really count in this case? Her run as a hitmaker was... very unstable

2 minutes ago, ATWK said:

She's a legend, but does she really count in this case? Her run as a hitmaker was... very unstable

She had several hits in every decade tho. Maybe not every year, but she was present each decade 

31 minutes ago, MingYouToo said:

Not trying to drag Mimi bc I love her and shes one of my faves but I think her case of longevity is v different from Beyoncé's. I will stand by my belief that if Renaissance is a smash era she'll be the female artist with the best longevity ever!

 

Mariah's mainstream presence as an 'in/cool' artist lasted from 1990-2013 (#Beautiful's radio domination), 23 years. Even then one can argue Obsessed was the last time people were genuinely invested in her as a current artist (2010). I really believe that AIWFCIY shouldn't really count as a proof of Mariah's longevity bc I lowkey feel like that song has a life of its own, its almost like the Christmas National Anthem. Regardless if people know Mariah, they KNOW that song. Bey's case is different (in a good way)

 

Beyoncé had her first hit in 1998 with No x3, 25 years later she's launching a global Top 5 lead single and getting 500k likes on Twitter for just an album cover reveal. She's not Ariana levels of social media power but the only girls who can pull that level of engagement online for music is Ariana, Taylor and Adele, all artists who've gone mainstream at least a decade after her. Her longevity is that people are still INVESTED in what she has to offer as an artist, both the album and the hits! That kind of longevity is unparalleled its honestly INSANE!

 

Madonna went from Everybody in 1983 to 4 Minutes in 2008 (25 years)

 

Mariah went from Vision of Love in 1990 to #Beautiful in 2013 (23 years)

 

Beyoncé went from No, No, No in 1997 to BREAK MY SOUL in 2022 (25 years)

 

If Renaissance bags another smash and an even bigger one I have no doubt she'll still be in the game 30 years in!

I always live for your post about the Queen. 

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Cher is definitely amongst the female legends with a long career/resume. 

My 1 wish is that if bey is doing a visual…please let it be a real film 

As much as we love having a visual for each song…getting everything at once kills the era. 
Have a real film that supports the message of the album and separately have music videos for the songs that will be pushed. 
Please no poems. The writers always end up being shady in the end…when no-one of like the poems anyway. 

3 minutes ago, Devin said:

Cher is definitely amongst the female legends with a long career/resume. 

Its truly astounding. I mean she had a crazy successful solo career, a successful duo career, a successful variety show, a successful movie career (including an Oscar for ACTING), a successful touring career.. like damn, she truly smashed the entertainment industry :jonny6:

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47 minutes ago, MingYouToo said:

Not trying to drag Mimi bc I love her and shes one of my faves but I think her case of longevity is v different from Beyoncé's. I will stand by my belief that if Renaissance is a smash era she'll be the female artist with the best longevity ever!

 

Mariah's mainstream presence as an 'in/cool' artist lasted from 1990-2013 (#Beautiful's radio domination), 23 years. Even then one can argue Obsessed was the last time people were genuinely invested in her as a current artist (2010). I really believe that AIWFCIY shouldn't really count as a proof of Mariah's longevity bc I lowkey feel like that song has a life of its own, its almost like the Christmas National Anthem. Regardless if people know Mariah, they KNOW that song. Bey's case is different (in a good way)

 

Beyoncé had her first hit in 1998 with No x3, 25 years later she's launching a global Top 5 lead single and getting 500k likes on Twitter for just an album cover reveal. She's not Ariana levels of social media power but the only girls who can pull that level of engagement online for music is Ariana, Taylor and Adele, all artists who've gone mainstream at least a decade after her. Her longevity is that people are still INVESTED in what she has to offer as an artist, both the album and the hits! That kind of longevity is unparalleled its honestly INSANE!

 

Madonna went from Everybody in 1983 to 4 Minutes in 2008 (25 years)

 

Mariah went from Vision of Love in 1990 to #Beautiful in 2013 (23 years)

 

Beyoncé went from No, No, No in 1997 to BREAK MY SOUL in 2022 (25 years)

 

If Renaissance bags another smash and an even bigger one I have no doubt she'll still be in the game 30 years in!

:clap3:

Let's hope we still have her 30 years in. 

She said she was ready to defy odds and do things people didn't think she could. 

Just now, BnPac said:

:clap3:

Let's hope we still have her 30 years in. 

She said she was ready to defy odds and do things people didn't think she could. 

The fact Bey could very well transition into her Pop/Rock Tina Turner era in her late 40s and make it work :jonny2: 

With all this longevity, it just hit me that she has been relevant since before I was even born :rip: Legend

Edited by ATWK

Can we stop believing that Break My Soul was finished right before its release? We wouldn’t have vinyls on album release week if that was the case.

54 minutes ago, *-ChriZ-* said:

The fact Bey could very well transition into her Pop/Rock Tina Turner era in her late 40s and make it work :jonny2: 

Slipknot is not safe

The way RENAISSANCE starts with 4 explicit tracks back to back. I’m scared :WAP:

 

Also, it’d be nice if she released the video this friday or the next one. If it keeps stable + increasing on radio it would be a smart move.

Start delving into the mechanics of Beyoncé's savant-oriented approaches: 

 

 

He flat out said he never thought he could ever become a Beyoncé fan until after watching her Sweet Dreams medley performance in Las Vegas, watch the end:

 

 

36 minutes ago, Beyonce-Minaj said:

He flat out said he never thought he could ever become a Beyoncé fan until after watching her Sweet Dreams medley performance in Las Vegas, watch the end:

 

 

This was always one of my absolute favourites. With Glastonbury and Coachella as her performance trinity. I enjoyed his video and I'm glad he is giving her technique the respect it deserves.















 

1 hour ago, Draper. said:

Can we stop believing that Break My Soul was finished right before its release? We wouldn’t have vinyls on album release week if that was the case.

That's one thing I can't stand about this base. A couple people post baseless conjecture and then all of a sudden it is soon regarded as fact :deadbanana4: See: EIL being "rush-released" to Spotify because it was flopping, Bey only doing OTRII because she was scared Jay would cheat if she travelled without him (:skull:) and the list goes on
 

2 minutes ago, KingB® said:


track 12 incoming?

 

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An explicit song as single #2? Give us that shock anthem thats gonna take Renaissance to 400+k first week

 

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3 hours ago, MingYouToo said:

Gorl shes a grandma the only one left in the charts that was there during her rookie days is Eminem and thats on the album charts. Mariah if her Christmas boost counts.

 

Basically no one from her era is really left that does numbers the way she does till this day!

Justin Timberlake?

1 hour ago, Beyonce-Minaj said:

He flat out said he never thought he could ever become a Beyoncé fan until after watching her Sweet Dreams medley performance in Las Vegas, watch the end:

 

 

This is one of her best live performances. The whole show is a masterpiece, plus love she sang a lot of songs that never got much attention in her live performances previously (I.e. resentment, that’s why you’re beautiful, etc.)

 

this isn’t true, right? I randomly see people say stuff like this and don’t get it because it makes zero sense.

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