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Beyoncé

This is part 1 of the Beyoncé discussion.

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28 minutes ago, Kingdom said:

Honey, if you go outside, people who actually love beyonce..just love her music. They don't know a damn thing about chart placement. They just love her music. 

Yea that's why every tiktok that asks about their favorite Beyoncé song they're saying **** like Halo, Single Ladies, or Drunk in Love. They can't say anything else because Beyoncé hasn't been musically relevant to them since 2008/2013. It's embarrassing!

 

If she doesn't care about success that's fine. Let your team handle it. That's what they are there for. Also, promoting your music takes nothing away from her talent/acclaim/integrity. Upload a music video, show some behind the scenes, post an insta/tweet about your work, and keep it moving.

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14 minutes ago, Mitsouko said:

Not caring about charts doesn't need to equate to ignoring, alienating, trolling, and borderline scamming your stans. But sure Neck, we're all so happy that you're not haunted by the Billboard Hot 100 anymore. What a relief

 

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This. I don't think most of us here care about charts either. I mean, it's nice that she is still selling well and gets #1s, but if she didn't and the music was the same quality it wouldn't change much. It's about having a connection to the fans and crafting at least some semblance of an "era". If that equates to "promo" and "charts" in her mind, then yeah, we do have a problem. 

1 hour ago, yonsé said:

weird that of all places she gives the hollywood reporter an exclusive interview? 

I'd like to chime in to point out that she did NOT give an exclusive interview, she just sent "a statement."

 

So it is quite likely that Yvette wrote that nonsense about "arts, not charts" on her iPhone and emailed THR :deadbanana4: Bey probably just looked at it and approved.

"I don't care about charts" :isudumblmao: Lmao, cool. We get it. And I really don't care either

Don't release 20 vinyls variants just to go numer 1. Don't invite trendy mumble rappers just cause they can help you score a hit. Don't release the catchy pop song your label tells you to release. Don't do cringy Jimmy Fallon appearances or post on Tik Tok. All of that is fine by me, don't chase the chart success by any means :clap3:

 

But god dammit... you released a stellar body of work that you claim to love. You really don't feel the need to perform the songs you poured your heart into? Release a few music videos? Have an in-depth interview with some nerdy music youtube journalist who will ask you deep questions about your art? :biblio:

 

Mkay girl. Better ghost your project and your fans instead. How edgy and different of you :juanny:

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4 minutes ago, aaron511 said:

"I don't care about charts" :isudumblmao: Lmao, cool. We get it. And I really don't care either

Don't release 20 vinyls variants just to go numer 1. Don't invite trendy mumble rappers just cause they can help you score a hit. Don't release the catchy pop song your label tells you to release. Don't do cringy Jimmy Fallon appearances or post on Tik Tok. All of that is fine by me, don't chase the chart success by any means :clap3:

 

But god dammit... you released a stellar body of work that you claim to love. You really don't feel the need to perform the songs you poured your heart into? Release a few music videos? Have an in-depth interview with some nerdy music youtube journalist who will ask you deep questions about your art? :biblio:

 

Mkay girl. Better ghost your project and your fans instead. How edgy and different of you :juanny:

Spill. That attitude of hers is obviously her prerogative since its her career and Art, but its such a turnoff

Another thing… she doesn't get excited by charts and sales so no promo is fine. But, selling shampoo and clothing gets her heart pumping? Because she's definitely not afraid to promote that stuff :clown:

Just now, Anvarie said:

Another thing… she doesn't get excited by charts and sales so no promo is fine. But, selling shampoo and clothing gets her heart pumping? Because she's definitely not afraid to promote that stuff :clown:

it's not like she's doing a ton for Cecred either :deadbanana4: she's doing more for shampoo than her album, in comparison.

 

but all she's doing for Cecred is a launch party, a short video, and reposting some bullshit awards on her instagram. RENAISSANCE promo tea :deadbanana2:

All I know is Bey is releasing the visuals. I just don't know when. I wonder how those Celebs who did the Cameos feel

please, let an era be a financial loss and lets see what happens.

Unless she has more resorts in homophobic countries willing to give her $20 million

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13 minutes ago, Burn said:

never forget. the Kittens really thought :lmao:

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, kimberly said:

I'd like to chime in to point out that she did NOT give an exclusive interview, she just sent "a statement."

 

So it is quite likely that Yvette wrote that nonsense about "arts, not charts" on her iPhone and emailed THR :deadbanana4: Bey probably just looked at it and approved.

She doesn't **** with Variety or Rolling Stone after they leaked info on the three acts sonic direction. I doubt she'll be giving them exclusives anytime soon. 

1 hour ago, kimberly said:

I'd like to chime in to point out that she did NOT give an exclusive interview, she just sent "a statement."

 

So it is quite likely that Yvette wrote that nonsense about "arts, not charts" on her iPhone and emailed THR :deadbanana4: Bey probably just looked at it and approved.

touché

She's always been more of a chart floater than a chart topper to me. She's always done enough to stay in the Top 40, but she has never been hitting #1's back to back like the last few years. She's always depended on her videos, packaging, multiple interview and live performances to make up the bulk of her era where charts were usually lacking. 
 

So for her to talk about not appeasing to the charts anymore is expected. But surely an artist getting 3 #1 singles that are top selling, genre bending and served critical longevity without traditional promo cares about the charts. She could've said that during "RENAISSANCE", where "Break My Soul" was expected to do her usual great debut/free fall, but instead became a huge hit, or how social media made "Cuff It" an unexpected single with moderate success. But going into "Cowboy Carter" with the worst, most caucasian, asinine song she's recorded sing "I Am. . . Sasha Fierce" after a (rumored) $30,000,000 TV ad on one of the biggest nights is chart chasing & she can't say otherwise with everything laid out on the table! Making it a double release, playing into the 'act II' slump she stopped using after 8 months into act I, girl. . .‼️

 

You built an entire era around a racially charged experience, making a profile on Ancestry.com and reclaiming the black roots of country music whilst "Texas Hold'em" and "II Most Wanted" was thrown out to commercially appeal to that part of the US, that translates into sales, that translates into charting high. The chart talk, to me, is a scapegoat for not wanting to do anything. She's promoted "BEYONCÉ", the hell out of "LEMONADE" and even "EVERYTHING IS LOVE" more than she's promoted this 'life altering' album, despite being on her seen, not heard journey 11 years in. 
 

She makes me wonder if she's planning retirement by 50, the way she was sloppy the last era for an album that was perfect start to finish and barely acknowledging the biggest crossover success in recent years. Though I don't like "Cowboy Carter" in its entirety & feel like the message gets lost a more than once, she's treating this album like a contractual obligation. Chasing the #1 doesn't require a $50,000 promotion plan. She could've did wonders by simply posting on her insta & website or making shorts for YouTube. Ppl have been begging a prerecorded performance- Beyoncé, of all artist, could've did some performances in a desert, her backyard, her office, rural Texas and made it work. 

6 minutes ago, TizTiz said:

She makes me wonder if she's planning retirement by 50

Yep. Jay will be 62 by the time she's 50. If they want to enjoy retired life together they need to start sooner rather than later.

 

That's what happens when you marry an older man. :cm:

I mean, she really just reiterated what she's been telling us in print for years. Also with how she moves and not promoting or doing anything to make an "era" an era. 
 

I think she chose to print this statement now cause she see's the constant chatter about letting CC out to die amongst all the other pleading over the last few years. She saying by the standards some fans have CC was dead on arrival. And so will everything she releases.

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yea I just don't feel like doin all dat atp in my career, let the other girls have at it 

 

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I'm sorry but this is a PR control piece and it's not adding up….
 

like pick a struggle sis, u sold your fans incomplete art pieces cuz u wanted to get rid of those useless inventory and pushed up the releases for obvious reason! Every move she makes has pointed toward money but she's all about ART now 

 

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Nah, I believe her. She doesn't do anything suggesting otherwise lol 

8 hours ago, Kh-Loud said:

I'm sorry but this is a PR control piece and it's not adding up….
 

like pick a struggle sis, u sold your fans incomplete art pieces cuz u wanted to get rid of those useless inventory and pushed up the releases for obvious reason! Every move she makes has pointed toward money but she's all about ART now 

 

THIS! 

And I'm not even lashing her. I'm just saying that...girl, I see what you're doing lol. 

 

Like @Kh-Loud said, she's not doing the vinyl thing in general (speak less the botched situation) for...fun. She wants the numbers - and no one can tell me otherwise. Bey and her team are very plugged into the pillars that keep her "Queen" commercially speaking. Per era, it's literally: at least one "hit-hit", strong first-week sales (300k+), and an accompanying stadium tour. Rinse and repeat.

 

If she truly didn't care, we'd be in 50k first-week territory and that's just not going to happen. Why? Because a commercially successful Bey musically = tour hype...which = where she makes her real money.

 

Diehard Hive is not big enough of a fandom to exclusively pack out stadiums worldwide, she literally NEEDS the GP for that. She clearly doesn't want to be a nostalgia act just yet either, so getting the GP in seats requires having commercial music moments. Texas, BMS, Cuff It. All strategically way more commercial than their companion albums. That alone shows that she...cares. 

 

Until she has a severely underperforming SOLO album and takes a laissez faire attitude with pushing it, I'm not buying the "doesn't care" thing. At least not to the degree some stans here moan about in these trying times. 

 

In kinda sorta cutting her some slack, I CAN see what she means about not principally being driven by numbers and #1s. Her own output shows that. She's not doing the IASF obvious Pop-pandering anymore nor random collabs for the sake of a hit thing. She's definitely not one to chase trends either. 

 

I think the takeaway here is that several things can be true at once. She absolutely IS still playing the game to retain her crown. But also has found qualitative balance with her output and approach to artistry and her stardom overall while doing it. 

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