18 minutes ago, BnPac said:

Didn't she though? She said she didn't support Beyoncé's brand of feminism and she wouldn't call it so or something like that. But anyway I liked how Chimamanda was incorporated in Flawless and I like Linda at the start of YA YA. 

But I understand that after a while listening to the album, months, years, the interludes might disrupt the listening experience. 

She said something like Beyoncé's feminism is not her feminism, but in the sense that there's different ways of understanding feminism, not in the way of "that's not feminism". But what she failed to say is that her feminism is TERF. 

Me when I play the album from start and it reaches SPAGHETTI

 

 

Inexcusable outright scam botched physical release:

1955 ass poster/billboard promotion:

Random misleading dead-end website that raises more questions than answers even though the time has come and gone for less obfuscation, not more:

 

Seems we have a new low on our hands

 

I expect the "limited edition" physical is the version we will see in stores as they cleared all 16k of the black vinyls from the website, probably sending them to retailers

11 minutes ago, Lose My Breath said:

 

I expect the "limited edition" physical is the version we will see in stores as they cleared all 16k of the black vinyls from the website, probably sending them to retailers

Absolutely. I feel bamboozled buying the "black" as I thought each back image would be the front cover  

1 hour ago, SashaDevachelli said:

The constant beeping sounds in this album, KNTY Radio is relaying signals out into space looking for any lifeforms, it catches the interest of some gay kunty aliens who then invade echoville and capture beyonce. They probe and yassify her (Renny) K4NTY News is hijacked by these glam aliens and mind control the mass through media.

The three forms of media… print, broadcast, internet. K4NTY News is print, KNTY Radio is the broadcasting, and act iii will have her invent her own search engine. Bey AI and Beygle (Google)

I honestly think this is true   Maybe not the exact plot, but it's clear she gets abducted and sent back in Renaissance. There's a clear thread between the radio and news and "Whoever controls the media controls the mind"

14 minutes ago, Lose My Breath said:

 

I expect the "limited edition" physical is the version we will see in stores as they cleared all 16k of the black vinyls from the website, probably sending them to retailers

please I thought it actually sold out 

 

need standard vinyl asap. YA YA deserves

33 minutes ago, Mitsouko said:

Inexcusable outright scam botched physical release:

1955 ass poster/billboard promotion:

Random misleading dead-end website that raises more questions than answers even though the time has come and gone for less obfuscation, not more:

 

Seems we have a new low on our hands

Stop it, ur so negative 

 

1 hour ago, SashaDevachelli said:

The constant beeping sounds in this album, KNTY Radio is relaying signals out into space looking for any lifeforms, it catches the interest of some gay kunty aliens who then invade echoville and capture beyonce. They probe and yassify her (Renny) K4NTY News is hijacked by these glam aliens and mind control the mass through media.

The three forms of media… print, broadcast, internet. K4NTY News is print, KNTY Radio is the broadcasting, and act iii will have her invent her own search engine. Bey AI and Beygle (Google)

but KNTY 4 News is already broadcast/TV station...

 

let my inner nerd come out for a second: the "K" in KNTY (and KNTRY) is actually a real life TV/radio station naming convention. stations in the Western half of the US start with a "K" while the ones East of the Mississippi start with a "W." Like KQED in San Francisco and WNYC in New York.

 

the print angle here you can refer to is The Echo aka the newspaper shown in the Delresto single cover...

 

  

1 hour ago, SashaDevachelli said:

The constant beeping sounds in this album, KNTY Radio is relaying signals out into space looking for any lifeforms, it catches the interest of some gay kunty aliens who then invade echoville and capture beyonce. They probe and yassify her (Renny) K4NTY News is hijacked by these glam aliens and mind control the mass through media.

The three forms of media… print, broadcast, internet. K4NTY News is print, KNTY Radio is the broadcasting, and act iii will have her invent her own search engine. Bey AI and Beygle (Google)

I think the beeping is her leaving one universe to go to another. Each will have a video. 

7 minutes ago, Blue Rose said:

I think the beeping is her leaving one universe to go to another. Each will have a video. 

So American Requim and Blackbird and present day > Beep into past/different world for 16 Carriages to Sweet Honey Buckin > Beep back to present day for Amen  > Beep to Renny world.

 

Or maybe Sweet Honey Beep leads to Renny world.

SPAGHETTII is too short. 

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Good at night and we back outside

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Back outside, I'm on the road

BREAK MY SOUL and TYRANT are sisters yup

 

1 hour ago, kimberly said:

but KNTY 4 News is already broadcast/TV station...

 

let my inner nerd come out for a second: the "K" in KNTY (and KNTRY) is actually a real life TV/radio station naming convention. stations in the Western half of the US start with a "K" while the ones East of the Mississippi start with a "W." Like KQED in San Francisco and WNYC in New York.

 

the print angle here you can refer to is The Echo aka the newspaper shown in the Delresto single cover...

 

  

I appreciate you trying to organize the mess that is my disorganized delulu theory, this makes more sense. I do think she is still getting probed by aliens

2 minutes ago, SashaDevachelli said:

I do think she is still getting probed by aliens

that's how she hits the UNIQUE! in AS

 

I can't believe these morons are still screaming on TikTok that Tyrant is about lynching and sundown towns 

the way this song gets me teary-eyed thinking about people who are still alive 

So she's still trolling posting pics on BeenCountry

Alliigator Tears could go on for 7 whole minutes and I wouldn't complain 

 

17 minutes ago, Bender34 said:

I can't believe these morons are still screaming on TikTok that Tyrant is about lynching and sundown towns 

Something I've noticed in the last few years is some people have no ability to simply enjoy things anymore.  I'm all for dissecting lyrics, but people are constantly looking for the hidden meaning in everything. 

 

I'm old man yells at cloud, but I think it's just TikTok culture. 

 

Edited April 10, 20242 yr by ShouldersSideways

3 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said:

Something I've noticed in the last few years is some people have no ability to simply enjoy things anymore.  I'm all for dissecting lyrics, but people are constantly looking for the hidden meaning in everything. 

 

I'm old man yells at cloud, but I think it's just TikTok culture. 

 

One of the very few things that can be attributed to Taylor and her fetish for easter eggs I suppose

Edited April 10, 20242 yr by Kristie Kuwa

6 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said:

Something I've noticed in the last few years is some people have no ability to simply enjoy things anymore.  I'm all for dissecting lyrics, but people are constantly looking for the hidden meaning in everything. 

 

I'm old man yells at cloud, but I think it's just TikTok culture. 

 

Like YES she puts a lot of thought and intention into her work, but when we start looking for hidden meanings like this… it's just too much 

 

NOW THE WORLD WILL BOW TO LUCIFER all over again

Thought it was sweet when they was walkin'
In the backdoor of the kitchen past the dirty dishes
Now we on a mission, tried to turn me to the opposition
I'm appalled 'bout the proposition
Y'all been played by the plagiaristic, ain't gonna give no clout addiction my attention
I ain't no regular singer, now come get everythin' you came for

 

So many thoughts post-release...

 

The Good 

 

* Elated at the sales. Happily eating humble pie given that I for sure saw 300k range as the upper limit (all things considered). I will say that, in light of the botched physicals (more on that in a sec) the fact she had 27 tracks this time helped a ton (e.g. streaming being the main means of hearing the entire album) and doesn't necessarily see the initial worry rendered totally invalid. We'd be looking at nearer 500k (IMO) had the preorder window been longer. But no point dwelling on that.

 

* The discourse around the album is amazing. For better or worse, I am pretty consumed by the marketing aspect of my faves releases and Bey (since at least ST) has always had an...angle. And not just something limp and basic, but something qualitative and culture-shifting. CC continues that trend and has been rightfully received well because of it (the reviews etc). Which is great as...

 

* The album is actually...impeccable! 

 

The Hmm

 

* While the botched physicals isn't doom and gloom (nor is it the disaster some are trying to make out to be), it's sloppier than I like from Bey. She has had this innate ability to "Olivia Pope" her missteps in ways the GP end up being none the wiser about. Even her whole "artiste" positioning does not pardon the fact that BOTH the vinyl (understandable) AND the CD (totally unjust) don't have the full tracklist. 

 

I imagine ish was pressed a long time ago, which probably means act 2 was due a while back (which is in direct contrast to many thinking it was due later than now hence the "rushed" release), but it still isn't very Beyonce-like. 

 

I personally want the original cover and the full tracklist, so won't buy a physical thing. I almost feel like putting on my clown makeup because there doesn't seem to be any guarantees it's even coming. 

 

Again, not the end of the world or any kind of "real" stain on Bey or the album, but just a little personally disappointed. 

 

The Pending 

 

* There are clear similarities in how she rolled CC and Rennie out (super on-the-nose lead single, no visuals etc), but I'm going to need that to be the end of the parallels. My gut tells me CC will **need** a **something** and sooner than Rennie did.

 

Both my gut and the intel I got (several people removed) tell me Rennie caught even Bey's camp by surprise in terms of its cultural resonance. In that it "apparently" wasn't the plan for the albums to be as spaced out as they have been. Take with a grain of salt if you choose, but at the same time, their pivot (to stretching Rennie out) makes sense. Why pass up an opportunity to take ish slow, let ish breathe, and figure out the visual drama when the source material is selling itself? IMO, there's no way we'd be getting CC only now if Rennie flopped into oblivion. That plus the deep embrace from both critics and the queer community that the album resonated with would have made her flinging on a cowboy hat and switching up her sound 6 months later feel a little disingenuous. 

 

I say all of that to say, as well as CC has been received, I just don't know if the "nothing til the tour" approach (next year?) will placate the fans or GP nor sustain the album as long as it did Rennie. Beyond Rennie taking on a life of its own in the clubs (which I highly doubt will be CC's edit), the lion's share of us were convinced visuals were coming imminently after its release, so we held on for so long because we were SO SURE the videos were around the corner. SO SURE. 

 

Knowing her games and shenanigans now, I can't see the attention span of listeners being the same. So, for her sake, I hope the visuals or tour or a live something are indeed imminent. Cus a part of me feels, for as strong of a launch as this has been commercially, she may legit lose ppl's interest in the three-album arc without anything supporting vehicle to push it. 

 

The Random

 

* Bodyguard is life and this era's Cuff It if handled right. 

 

* Tyrant needs to be sent to Urban at some point soon.

 

* The Act III Rock thing is still perplexing me. In one regard, CC album feels like the perfect precursor to a Rock & Roll album in the vein of Tina Turner / Little Richard (e.g. Ya Ya instead of a Don't Hurt Yourself type Rock). But with so much of CC having Rock influences it almost feels like it she has come in before the beat (if Rock really is the anchoring genre for Act III).

HANGMAN, ANSWER ME NOW

YOU OWE ME A DEBT, YOU STOLE HIM FROM ME

I HATED YOU ONCE, I ENVY YOU NOW

JUST TELL ME HOW, TELL ME HOW

 

Edited April 10, 20242 yr by Jotham