6 minutes ago, PrudenceHCharmed said:

I'm confused. What is the single?

"TEXAS HOLD 'EM" is the single.

 

What a waste. Amazing album with messy management/release. 

 

You'll never get that A-O-T-Y GISELLE. 

1 minute ago, PrudenceHCharmed said:

What a waste. Amazing album with messy management/release. 

 

You'll never get that A-O-T-Y GISELLE. 

The fact that Billie motherfucking Eyelash will likely show her how its done.. is a funny lil concept nnnn

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3 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

The fact that Billie motherfucking Eyelash will likely show her how its done.. is a funny lil concept nnnn

ooh i'm sure beyonce is scared. Girl...

6 minutes ago, family.guy123 said:

I hope Linda starts beef with Bey and she gets taken off the album tbh. Her parts are so annoying 

what!? her parts are some of the highlights!

1 minute ago, swissman said:

what!? her parts are some of the highlights!

On the first listen, not on the 20th.

 

Expose yourself swissman

 

 

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we are one 1.5 weeks in the album release. the album went #1. it created THREE Top Ten hits.

 

do we really need to be lamenting the "mess"?

 

isn't it clear that Beyoncé simply is not HERE for the charts, or the singles or whatever else. what she clearly intended to do with this album (shine line, start conversations, make art) has already been accomplished. anything else from here on out will be bonus points. It seems that... in 2024, after RENAISSANCE, after Lemonade, after The Gift, after Everything is Love, after BEYONCÉ that maybe, just maybe we might realize how Beyoncé works.

 

also the era is NOT done, why act like it?

I'll probably be back telling people to stop complaining in 6 months when nothing else has happened too, but at least for the time being...c'mon.

 

 

Edited April 10, 20242 yr by swissman

i can't believe a phone commercial was more exciting than whatever tf this era is 

5 minutes ago, swissman said:

what!? her parts are some of the highlights!

The way I listen to albums is on repeat and on shuffle and I don't need somebody telling me what genres are. Don't care how important they are 

Just now, Kristie Kuwa said:

On the first listen, not on the 20th.

 

Expose yourself swissman

 

 

Expose what? How I loooove the drama of Linda's vocals on SPAGHETTII...? the way her voice leads into the instrumental, the perfection of the setup, the outlining of one of the album's main points, or how the imaginary THE LINDA MARTELL SHOW is perfect lead-in to YA YA, where the recording is clearly intended to feel like a live performance, and it imagines Linda as an actual country superstar big enough to host her own televised variety show... it's like a fantasy of an America that never was...

 

anyway I find her voiceovers very iconic...sitting nicely along side "I want to thank the judges for picking me, my parents who I love, I love you Houston..."

 

I mean "Genres are a funny little concept, aren't they? [smiles] Yes they are..." is perfection.

 

I'm actually trying to find ways to dislike it and I cannot. Like what makes one mad about 18s of spoken word from an icon?

I like Linda's part of Spaghetti and typically I find spoken words as intros very annoying, but this one builds the momentum rather than halts it. She could've made it an interlude like Dolly P, I guess, but she must've liked the build up as part of the song.

10 minutes ago, swissman said:

we are one 1.5 weeks in the album release. the album went #1. it created THREE Top Ten hits.

 

do we really need to be lamenting the "mess"?

 

isn't it clear that Beyoncé simply is not HERE for the charts, or the singles or whatever else. what she clearly intended to do with this album (shine line, start conversations, make art) has already been accomplished. anything else from here on out will be bonus points.

 

also the era is NOT done, why act like it?

I'll probably be back telling people to stop complaining in 6 months when nothing else has happened too, but at least for the time being...c'mon.

Well, it only goes to show that they are fantastic at the initial rollout, however the eras of ST, Lemonade, and Renaissance have spoken a very clear language: after the release of the album, they either dont care about the albums success or dont know how to handle the album afterwards. I don't know which is worse, all I know is that out critiques and concerns are all valid since they are based on past experiences

14 minutes ago, swissman said:

we are one 1.5 weeks in the album release. the album went #1. it created THREE Top Ten hits.

 

do we really need to be lamenting the "mess"?

 

isn't it clear that Beyoncé simply is not HERE for the charts, or the singles or whatever else. what she clearly intended to do with this album (shine line, start conversations, make art) has already been accomplished. anything else from here on out will be bonus points. It seems that... in 2024, after RENAISSANCE, after Lemonade, after The Gift, after Everything is Love, after BEYONCÉ that maybe, just maybe we might realize how Beyoncé works.

 

also the era is NOT done, why act like it?

I'll probably be back telling people to stop complaining in 6 months when nothing else has happened too, but at least for the time being...c'mon.

 

 

Some people are addicted to misery

24 minutes ago, family.guy123 said:

I hope Linda starts beef with Bey and she gets taken off the album tbh. Her parts are so annoying 

In that case I hope Chimamanda starts beef with her too. 

 

Just now, Kristie Kuwa said:

Well, it only goes to show that they are fantastic at the initial rollout, however the eras of ST, Lemonade, and Renaissance have spoken a very clear language: after the release of the album, they either dont care about the albums success or dont know how to handle the album afterwards. I don't know which is worse, all I know is that out critiques and concerns are all valid since they are based on past experiences

it's not just critiques and concerns though. it's full-on complaining. there of course are people who ruminate on what could or should be done which is more an angle of fan fiction, like "what I'd do if I were in charge" and then there are others who outright call her/her company names, who belittle her, who act like this era is over and terrible and all that just because they're upset they're not getting things that by now we should know not to expect.

 

as you've said, if we know that after the rollout Parkwood doesn't seem to care about nurturing the album(s)' success, it seems very unnecessary to go on complaining about it. It's like complaining that it's raining but refusing to buy an umbrella. At some point, 11 years into this way of working, the Hive needs to get over her lack of promo and enjoy the eras for what they are, not what they could or should be.

26 minutes ago, swissman said:

we are one 1.5 weeks in the album release. the album went #1. it created THREE Top Ten hits.

 

do we really need to be lamenting the "mess"?

 

isn't it clear that Beyoncé simply is not HERE for the charts, or the singles or whatever else. what she clearly intended to do with this album (shine line, start conversations, make art) has already been accomplished. anything else from here on out will be bonus points. It seems that... in 2024, after RENAISSANCE, after Lemonade, after The Gift, after Everything is Love, after BEYONCÉ that maybe, just maybe we might realize how Beyoncé works.

 

also the era is NOT done, why act like it?

I'll probably be back telling people to stop complaining in 6 months when nothing else has happened too, but at least for the time being...c'mon.

 

 

I've been wondering when are they gonna start again and like clockwork they here

3 minutes ago, swissman said:

it's not just critiques and concerns though. it's full-on complaining. there of course are people who ruminate on what could or should be done which is more an angle of fan fiction, like "what I'd do if I were in charge" and then there are others who outright call her/her company names, who belittle her, who act like this era is over and terrible and all that just because they're upset they're not getting things that by now we should know not to expect.

 

as you've said, if we know that after the rollout Parkwood doesn't seem to care about nurturing the album(s)' success, it seems very unnecessary to go on complaining about it. It's like complaining that it's raining but refusing to buy an umbrella. At some point, 11 years into this way of working, the Hive needs to get over her lack of promo and enjoy the eras for what they are, not what they could or should be.

Every era is the beginning of new hope, and the consequent destruction of it

 

 

7 hours ago, Red Velvet said:

So is the era over?

 

what era?

 

15 minutes ago, Draper. said:

In that case I hope Chimamanda starts beef with her too. 

Didn't she though? She said she didn't support Beyoncé's brand of feminism and she wouldn't call it so or something like that. But anyway I liked how Chimamanda was incorporated in Flawless and I like Linda at the start of YA YA. 

But I understand that after a while listening to the album, months, years, the interludes might disrupt the listening experience. 

Opinion: Why Beyoncé could start a Black country music groundswell

 

Beyoncé's "Cowboy Carter" is a game changer for Blacks in country music, says writer Alice Randall, who's been in the business for 41 years.

 

"Cowboy Carter" is an album that resists the limits of the country music genre while highlighting its aesthetics. Beyoncé exhibits the classic formula of Celtic ballad + Black influence + evangelical Christianity = Country Music.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/04/10/opinions/beyonce-black-country-music-book-randall/index.html

 

15 minutes ago, swissman said:

it's not just critiques and concerns though. it's full-on complaining. there of course are people who ruminate on what could or should be done which is more an angle of fan fiction, like "what I'd do if I were in charge" and then there are others who outright call her/her company names, who belittle her, who act like this era is over and terrible and all that just because they're upset they're not getting things that by now we should know not to expect.

and i'll do it again 

The constant beeping sounds in this album, KNTY Radio is relaying signals out into space looking for any lifeforms, it catches the interest of some gay kunty aliens who then invade echoville and capture beyonce. They probe and yassify her (Renny) K4NTY News is hijacked by these glam aliens and mind control the mass through media.

The three forms of media… print, broadcast, internet. K4NTY News is print, KNTY Radio is the broadcasting, and act iii will have her invent her own search engine. Bey AI and Beygle (Google)

telling fans not do expect something as basic as music videos is beyond sycophancy… i really hope you positive pamelas get some kinda check from her team cause 

24 minutes ago, MrPiggyMoka said:

I've been wondering when are they gonna start again and like clockwork they here

like for real though... it's weird because if you go out of this base everyone is like LONGEVITY! IMPACT! ARTISTRY! THAT'S ALL THAT MATTERS!

but then here it's like "she's a flop how dare it be 1.5 weeks into the album launch and we don't have a second single while the first one is still at #2?!"

 

I get it if in six months there's still no follow up, but also... does it seem to matter? RENAISSANCE had very slow naming of singles and then stopped when it could have had at least two more...and yet, COWBOY CARTER has built upon RENAISSANCE'S success without really trying. If Beyoncé is content, I am content. She's built her career to no longer be reliant on singles. That is well-proven at this point. And yet we are acting like she is reliant on singles. She's 27 years into her career having a re-peak perhaps unlike anyone ever has had this far into their music career...she's already outdoing what she "should" be doing for a woman of her age not trying to follow trends and get easy hits.

 

All I require is quality, and we've got that and more.