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Beyoncé

This is part 1 of the Beyoncé discussion.

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26 minutes ago, Hallad173 said:

Yes!!!!!!!! I’ve been saying heels and accessories for the longest!!!
 

She should’ve stayed in the fragrance game too!

 

The great thing about products like heels and accessories is that the promotion required isn’t as demanding as makeup or apparel (no YT tutorials, staged paparazzi walks wearing the clothes, etc.). A heel line is something she can actually sell out with IG photoshoots and good quality.

 

So until she is willing to change her current allergy to promotion, she needs to only attach herself to products that don’t require much promo.

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1 minute ago, Shelter said:

Her perfume ads were always on tv here. IP was at the beginning, but that was it. 

Yeah I remember the ads and she even did interviews centered around promoting the perfumes. But she slowly stepped away from the perfumes just like with Ivy Park and well we have the same results again. 
 

6 minutes ago, abeille said:

She reportedly has a Balmain campaign in the works. Let's not rejoice prematurely 

If it’s Balmain x Beyoncé that could be cute I bought one of the Beychella hoodies they did together and it’s so cute. I would be neutral on Balmain x Ivy Park…. She should just drop it permanently tbh Too much failure attached with it now.

48 minutes ago, kimberly said:

yeeeeees get into it!

 

 

Love them :heart: They lowkey give 90’s R&B girl group cosplay at times but idc. Still live for them. 

6 minutes ago, IlluminatiFreak said:

 

If she would release a whole new album prior to Renny Tour how would that work out concept wise since the tour is focused on Renny . Thats the Only reason i would think it wouldnt happen but idk 

I think athleisure-wear is a suitable brand for her to have, the problem is the fact she doesn’t want to promote it:priceless: The sending boxes for PR was really cool and the little visuals she provided for each drop was nice, but like someone said it got stagnant after Rodeo.

 

I love my Icy Park shoes though, some of the things were honestly pretty nice looking:giraffe: All we need to worry about now is that Olive Oil company!:giraffe:

3 minutes ago, Punch said:

If she would release a whole new album prior to Renny Tour how would that work out concept wise since the tour is focused on Renny . Thats the Only reason i would think it wouldnt happen but idk 

I mean she named her last tour Formation World Tour and we had no clue about Lemonade when tickets went on sale. it is possible.

 

but at the same time, that MET Gala blind from Deuxmoi could be literally about so many people:

Rihanna - R9,

Taylor Swift - Speak Now (Taylor's Version),

Miley Cyrus - Endless Summer Vacation (and its alleged deluxe version?),

Ariana Grande - AG7...

 

Ariana had the Givenchy collab, Taylor had the Stella McCartney merch collab, Rihanna had her own French fashion house. they wouldn't be strangers to collaborating with luxury fashion brands. however with all the Beyoncé/Balmain rumors circling the internet, I wouldn't be surprised if some random person made that up to look like it's about her either.

 

I hope it's true though, we haven't seen her on any live red carpet in over 3 years, almost 4 years now.

2 hours ago, kimberly said:

lucky! they're skipping the Bay Area and I'm not gonna haul my ass over to Sacramento to see them play a short festival set at Sol Blume.

they should have added a cute Oakland date :gaycat7:we successfully bullied Ella Mai into adding one

I feel you. They’re not coming to my city but I’m in the Midwest so I’m driving down to Chicago. 
 

I hope they open for the Europe leg of the RWT though. 

I don’t see the logic of not sending AHAP to radio, even if it’ll never be a Cuff It sized smash…

27 minutes ago, Armani? said:

 

we've been discussing this mamas, click back a few pages

if act ii is coming by the time the MET gala happens....

 

it adds weight to my theory that the "reshoots" for the film were actually her filming act ii and we're gonna get a giant film with both...:jonny5:

Will this Balmain collection have a bedazzled knee and ankle brace selection? :eddie:

Anyone arguing about Athelusuire or workout gear not being Beyonce's brand when we know she's one of the greatest live performers of all time and literally lives and breathes FITNESS when it's tour time?

 

Please be for real. Yes Beyonce is elegance and class. She said she allowed herself to gain weight with the kids. But she absolutley cares about fitness and takes care of herself. It's really other faves who blur the line. Remember when Kylie had her streetwear/athlesuire line? 

 

 

The original IVP promo. The message was very clear. It somehow got lost.

 

Honestly, things went some after Rodeo. the design and the ideas.. Something.

 

But ultimately, she did not promote of make the brand sybomumous enough. If she had of kept the same eneergy from 2016-2018 and then 2020, the brand would have been better cemented by this point. Last year and her abscence from BOTH music, social media and IVP was a huge mistake. And it seems like nothing is being learned... Tour is in 2 months. We will see.

3 hours ago, Cbreezy said:

Y'all....Ivy Park may not actually be dead lol. Maybe dead as we knew it. But not dead-dead. The article says she's exploring options etc and is excited about it.

 

I'm actually quite passionate about the success of her brand, so having flop extracurricular activities doesn't help the overall perfectionism "Beyonce" is renowned for.

 

In one regard, it's not the end of the world as it's clear people want MUSIC BEYONCE more than anything else and she excels in that more than anything. But I actually want her to excel in ish beyond music too, as it's simply the way the entertainment industry at large is trending. 

 

She's doing great things with Parkwood and is really launching and cementing careers beyond her own. So, that is a really cool "extracurricular win".

 

If I were her and the plan is to scale back but not kill IVP, I would simply "eventize" the collabs. Balmain drop here. Peloton drop there. But nothing too committal. 

 

There's a part of me that wants her to pair up with Nike or Puma and go-go for it properly. But I can't see that on either end. For them, what's the incentive of picking up a flop brand that been passed around twice now? And for her, even if she can generate interest from huge companies, the Adidas deal makes clear that they will "son" her (presumably) and force her hand for stuff in ways that isn't the case in any other part of her career. It's almost not worth it. 

Beyonce aint going to Nike or Puma. Nike doesn't play about the cash. They want hard numbers and a at #1 for a reason. Jordan still promoting 40 years in. Bey cant even do 3 years. And Puma with Fenty coming back? Girl.... Let's hope Beyonce paying all those folks at Parkwood are figuring it out. Tired of all of them looking like they only sit on their ass at this point. 

im so glad cuff it is eclipsing halo as her biggest hit. 

 

god's timing is always right

Ivy Park…

 

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Time to release AHAP to radio. At least people are buying that, selling 20k US units just last week. 

 

 Btw @ delusional clown hive. It’s the week of:

 

“Spatial Shift”  & “Bitter Loser”

 

March 26th 

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whatever that means 

The haters are having a field day today with the news but Beyoncé will get the last laugh as usual. Ivy Park will remain as a brand but this time her and Parkwood will make it really how they envisioned it all along and she will promote it for sure now, with big productions and big bold fashion and this time it will be her brand 100%. I could see her eventually only wear Ivy Park on stage at some point or on some videos as promotion, then it will be easy for her to sell those clothes. I knew when she stopped appearing in the commercials that something was up. When she is seen wearing these clothes, the drops always do well.

Anyone else started ripping their CDs in FLAC format? They sound so much better than Spotify. Plus, I also hunted down all the versions of Dangerously in LoveB'DayI Am... Sasha Fierce and 4 with country-exclusive tracks so I can include them. The Best Buy-exclusive version of B'Day is so elusive, though.

 

Also, because of this, I started noticing production mistakes in many of the songs because the audio is so clear. An example would be "Rather Die Young" (0:19-0:21) having a weird distortion when she sings, "...but that don't mean a thing."

1 hour ago, jane said:

The haters are having a field day today with the news but Beyoncé will get the last laugh as usual. Ivy Park will remain as a brand but this time her and Parkwood will make it really how they envisioned it all along and she will promote it for sure now, with big productions and big bold fashion and this time it will be her brand 100%. I could see her eventually only wear Ivy Park on stage at some point or on some videos as promotion, then it will be easy for her to sell those clothes. I knew when she stopped appearing in the commercials that something was up. When she is seen wearing these clothes, the drops always do well.

Good theory. We'll see. I will say that Beyonce isn't a quitter. Since she seems to be having so many issues with her partners, she needs to figure out how to control everything from the distribution  manufacturing and to marketing. That will not be easy and she can't take the same approach she does with music currently. 

 

She's going to have to rebrand. Bad. That's the main complaint I'm seeing from people. The relateability factor. Not even the designs or quality..

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