I will not be saying anymore on this Dubai subject, so don’t @me again 

 

The back and forth blue-in-the-face quoting with no end in sight is giving major MissedTheTrain energy. Let's not be like that!

 

 

 

2 minutes ago, yonsé said:

You’re missing the most important part of bootlicking, which is the flattery of an authority figure to gain favor with someone with authority over you as these multiple dictionary definitions state

 

someone who praises or is extremely polite to a more powerful or rich person in a way that is not sincere, usually in order to get an advantage for themselves

 

to try to gain favor with through a servile or obsequious manner

 

a person who praises, helps, or obeys someone in order to gain favors or advantages —

 

now please tell me what authority Beyoncé has over any of us? and how not caring about this stupid argument gains favor with someone who doesn’t know me? Quickly…

Damn not Lovett getting stomped out by Merriam W. too. 

Just now, Anvarie said:

Maybe you’re trying to appear cool so you get the e-vite the hive lunch table 

I really hope this is a joke because 

Just now, XXX. said:

I just can’t take anyone seriously vehemently calling people bootlickers over human rights while parading an avatar from a VOGUE shoot.  
 

VOGUE is a billboard for the exploitation of women and children being exploited in the fashion industry down to the supply chain of farmers growing cotton, forced labor conditions, etc.

 

So, if we’re gonna shake the table, let’s shake it for real.

 

Or keep the fake outrage on the playground.

Funny, I don't remember you having this take when people are fighting for racial equality whilst using their iPhones. You know, if everyone has to be fighting for absolutely every cause simultaneously, otherwise their arguments and activism should be ignored.

 

1 minute ago, OnMyCoolJ said:

Is what you were until you found some quote buttons to bootlick. 
 

it was giving conceded when Kimberly had you in a chokehold 

Kimberley was actually able to formulate coherent arguments, unlike you. I deeply disagreed with them, but saw that she was very much set in her opinions and wasn't changing. So I was done at that time. Hours later you were ranting your usual nonsense and I decided that I was more than happy to drag your hypocritical, bootlicking ass up and down this thread. Hope you've enjoyed.

 

1 minute ago, Shelter said:

You have been kissing her ass for years and aggressively attacking anyone that drags her so it’s rich coming from you trying to say I’m bootlicking over this Dubai concert.  You can have a discussion, but not attack members but I guess that’s tough for some of you. Trying to force your opinion that we should all be outraged over this is ridiculous. 

 

Fact is, it’s not just one decision, she has made plenty of bad decisions, maybe some of you just can’t accept it and others have.

Of course I've been kissing her ass, because I love her. I've dragged people who come for her falsely, but I've sure as hell called her out when she stepped over that picket line, or when she performed for the Gaddafi family, or used an ableist slur or any other decisions that I have found morally inept.

 

Stop crying victim and pretending as though we haven't been repeatedly gaslit over being unhappy with Bey's decision. Some of us want to hold Bey accountable for these decisions, instead of just repeatedly letting her get away with things. If you don't, that's your decision. But I think that's wrong.

13 minutes ago, OnMyCoolJ said:

When Miss Lovett was lashed by Kimberly point 4 point she was “done” with the conversation. 
 

only to come back pages later arguing the same tired points. 
 

until someone explains why it was fine for Dua, Gags, Kylie, Madonna, Diana etc to perform there…their fumes are DOA 

 

I best not catch Lovett and the moral higher ground hive discussing any footage or pics from this event. Since it goes against everything they hold near n dear. 

Well Bey stans are 90% of the people dragging her in the thread. They don't care about the other people.

Also most of these incidences were before the World Cup and whether conscious of it or not, I think its made people more sensitive to the topic

Lastly frustration is definitely feeding some people's feelings and how it fits into the Renaissance "era" ...

Will be very interesting to see if this ever picks up steam outside of ATRL once it eventually happens.

1 minute ago, Anvarie said:

Educated hive, love to see it 

You can’t compare the middle class and poor individuals in this thread to billionaire . Like hello, some of y’all are living paycheck to paycheck meanwhile Bey could never sell another album, jacket, or concert ticket and remain rich for the rest of her life and have tons of wealth to hand down for generations. The hard truth is that she doesn’t need this money, she doesn’t require it to maintain her standard of living, she’s isn’t going to lose her house, her kids are gonna have to go on food stamps. Now that’s not to say she won’t put the money to “good” use (funding artistic projects, perhaps down the road some kind of charity project) but it’s still anti gay money. 

Billionaires have billionaire bills and in order to maintain billionaire status...the money has to keep coming in somehow. No one stops working...Bill Gates, Elon Musk, Warren Buffet, Oprah...all working citizens. she's an entertainer...tours, albums, private events, etc are part of accumulating that money which got her there. $24 million is a nice sizeable check for less work than an average concert date. trying to play moral police when her own country is full of ****** up **** won't solve any problems.

2 minutes ago, Mitsouko said:

The back and forth blue-in-the-face quoting with no end in sight is giving major MissedTheTrain energy. Let's not be like that!

 

 

 

Now you’re REALLY trying to get this base locked

7 minutes ago, Shelter said:

You have been kissing her ass for years and aggressively attacking anyone that drags her so it’s rich coming from you trying to say I’m bootlicking over this Dubai concert.  You can have a discussion, but not attack members but I guess that’s tough for some of you. Trying to force your opinion that we should all be outraged over this is ridiculous. 

 

Fact is, it’s not just one decision, she has made plenty of bad decisions, maybe some of you just can’t accept it and others have.

And that’s that on that 

15 minutes ago, Mitsouko said:

 

Do you have a twitter or a substack or something? Everything you post makes me cackle

 

I don't have anything public because I'd rather attend the Dubai concert than reveal to anyone that I'm a member of this forum

Kimberly wasn’t set in anything. She debunked your lies point for point and you fake conceded until you felt the coast was clear 

 

Kimberly get him again. Get him for me

 

4 minutes ago, yonsé said:

You’re missing the most important part of bootlicking, which is the flattery of an authority figure to gain favor with someone with authority over you as these multiple dictionary definitions state

 

someone who praises or is extremely polite to a more powerful or rich person in a way that is not sincere, usually in order to get an advantage for themselves

 

to try to gain favor with through a servile or obsequious manner

 

a person who praises, helps, or obeys someone in order to gain favors or advantages —

 

now please tell me what authority Beyoncé has over any of us? and how not caring about this stupid argument gains favor with someone who doesn’t know me? Quickly…

The advantage you seem to think you have is that you're "real Hive" and we're not, because we're holding her accountable for her poor decisions. You're literally sat there kissing her feet and saying "oh no, she's not a politician!!1" "she deserves her money" because you think it makes you more of a fan.

 

It's always funny watching people try and be as literal as possible with a definition to try and distract from their behaviour. Get a grip.

At least the base is alive 

Just now, giRLbye. said:

Billionaires have billionaire bills and in order to maintain billionaire status...the money has to keep coming in somehow. No one stops working...Bill Gates, Elon Musk, Warren Buffet, Oprah...all working citizens. she's an entertainer...tours, albums, private events, etc are part of accumulating that money which got her there. $24 million is a nice sizeable check for less work than an average concert date. trying to play moral police when her own country is full of ****** up **** won't solve any problems.

Mawma she doesn’t need $24 million from Dubai. She can make that money in more ethical ways under capitalism which we all know is an inherently unethical system. Again the timing is poor, LGBT+ pride album being performed for elites in a homophobic country. Why are you acting so close minded about this?? 

Bey at the opening of her GLAAD Awards performance next summer as "please mother fuckers ain't stopping me" intro blasts behind her

 

 

Just now, OnMyCoolJ said:

Kimberly wasn’t set in anything. She debunked your lies point for point and you fake conceded until you felt the coast was clear 

 

Kimberly get him again. Get him for me

 

Begging Kimberley to do your job for you, because you can't dispute any of my points? Figures. Funny how I haven't actually stated any lies, you just don't like my opinion on the subject.

 

Keep crying because I came back to clock your hypocritical bootlicking though.

3 minutes ago, giRLbye. said:

Billionaires have billionaire bills and in order to maintain billionaire status...the money has to keep coming in somehow. No one stops working...Bill Gates, Elon Musk, Warren Buffet, Oprah...all working citizens. she's an entertainer...tours, albums, private events, etc are part of accumulating that money which got her there. $24 million is a nice sizeable check for less work than an average concert date. trying to play moral police when her own country is full of ****** up **** won't solve any problems.

Smart billionaires invest their money and get returns back that way. Property is really the easiest way to retain your wealth. 

9 minutes ago, Otter said:

Guys, naunce exists in the world. Life is not zero sum, you can't be boil down the conversation to capitalist or not 

Like America in 1850 and America in 2022 are both capitalist nations. But in one of these years racial segreggation is legal, in the other it is not. In one of these years gay marriage is legal, in another it is not. You can exist in a capitalist state, support a capitalist state and still hold and fight for values within that state and system. Society would be nowhere if purity was required to have an opinion and be critical of something. 

Truly guys, you don't need to try and humble people for having values and drawing lines under things they do/don't support. Beyonce will be fine, I promise you 

First of all, I didn’t say these issues were identical. But are you denying that capitalism and commercialism is still at the root of Beyoncé being in a position to land a $24 million payday?  That was my point.  And much like this argument, there are a myriad of issues you can unpack that directly impact the conditions of human life.  Especially at the farming & labor level.

 

Of course we can survive in a capitalistic state.  But it doesn’t make it any less ethical.  
 

Next. 

5 minutes ago, yonsé said:

I really hope this is a joke because 

Naur some of y’all really take being “ride or die” stans seriously. Let me provide some examples

 

Miley stans supporting her bangerz embarrassing era (robin thicke thing)

Lana stans supporting her anti black insta post dragging black artists 

nicki stans supporting her pdf husband

gaga stans supporting her grinding on r Kelly DWUW

rihanna stans supporting her vocals and work ethic 

etc..

Just now, Anvarie said:

Mawma she doesn’t need $24 million from Dubai. She can make that money in more ethical ways under capitalism which we all know is an inherently unethical system. Again the timing is poor, LGBT+ pride album being performed for elites in a homophobic country. Why are you acting so close minded about this?? 

You don't know what she needs...she obviously said yes for a reason. Nothing is unethical about it any more than her performing in the USA. This is for the grand opening of a hotel resort....not the president of Dubai. It's not closeminded...its logical.

Just now, Anvarie said:

Naur some of y’all really take being “ride or die” stans seriously. Let me provide some examples

 

Miley stans supporting her bangerz embarrassing era (robin thicke thing)

Lana stans supporting her anti black insta post dragging black artists 

nicki stans supporting her pdf husband

gaga stans supporting her grinding on r Kelly DWUW

rihanna stans supporting her vocals and work ethic 

etc..

 

Sis

 

 

1 minute ago, MrLovett said:

Begging Kimberley to do your job for you, because you can't dispute any of my points? Figures. Funny how I haven't actually stated any lies, you just don't like my opinion on the subject.

 

Keep crying because I came back to clock your hypocritical bootlicking though.

You have no points. You’re the ultimate bootlicker and the biggest hypocrite in here. 
 

you came back to weep once you saw nobody was going to ride your miserable little wave with you. 

 

2 minutes ago, Anvarie said:

Naur some of y’all really take being “ride or die” stans seriously. Let me provide some examples

 

Miley stans supporting her bangerz embarrassing era (robin thicke thing)

Lana stans supporting her anti black insta post dragging black artists 

nicki stans supporting her pdf husband

gaga stans supporting her grinding on r Kelly DWUW

rihanna stans supporting her vocals and work ethic 

etc..

Her vo-

 

6 minutes ago, MrLovett said:

Funny, I don't remember you having this take when people are fighting for racial equality whilst using their iPhones. You know, if everyone has to be fighting for absolutely every cause simultaneously, otherwise their arguments and activism should be ignored.

 

You also don’t remember me name calling and attacking differences of opinion. 
 

What I said still stands.  There is a huge issue with children and women being overworked, sexually assaulted, and abused under poor working conditions to mass produce in the fashion industry. But you likely have never had any issue with Beyoncé or any other pop star on the cover of VOGUE.

 

You cannot call people bootlickers when it suits your agenda.  You are just as complicit.